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Many NFL scouts won't miss Paterno

Posted on: November 10, 2011 12:44 pm
One NFC scout was asked how he felt about Joe Paterno leaving.

"I hate to see any of this stuff happening," the scout said, "but people in my line of work won't miss him."

The reason? Paterno was notorious for his abuse of scouts and personnel men who tried to interview players or the staff in preparation for the NFL draft and free agency.

None of this stuff compares to the grand ugliness that happened at the school regarding molestation charges but it does open a small window -- a tiny one -- into how tight control Paterno had at the school.

It wasn't unusual for scouts to set up an appointment to speak with a player or group of players, or even Paterno himself, only to find after traveling to campus Paterno would cancel all appointments.

Eventually, I'm told, scouts were only allowed to come on certain open dates. Sometimes they'd be allowed to watch practice, sometimes not. Paterno had his favorites and would let certain scouts he liked or thought were friends of the program have better access to the team than others.

"Penn State was one of the worst places to try and do your job," said the scout.

Dan Shonka, a former scout, tweeted recently: "I have received several e-mails from retired and present #NFL scouts that reminded me that #JoePaterno hindered us from doing our job at #PennSt How so? #CoachPaterno had a rule that scouts could only visit on open dates and watching prospects during practice was not allowed. Many #scouts blame #PennSt busts over the years on the lack of info #CoachPaterno let out..."

Category: NFL
Tags: Penn State

Since: Aug 15, 2011
Posted on: November 10, 2011 3:12 pm

Many NFL scouts won't miss Paterno

You can't blame Paterno for restricting access and controlling the enviornment around his players. I think the scouts whining about access is a bunch of bullish - my solution, watch more tape and head to the season ending all star games to evaluate the potential draftees.

Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: November 10, 2011 2:55 pm

Many NFL scouts won't miss Paterno

You are damned if you  do and damned if you don’t. Coach Joe would want to restrict the actions of those allowed on his practice facility to include the NFL scouts. I can only imagine his attitude and thoughts on agents being on his practice facility.

Pete Carroll was crucified for allowing scouts and agents to attend his practices. They said he, as well as the college administration, should have had control of the practice facility.

Now we have a coach that had or would control who was allowed on his practice field. Just, the opposite of Pete Carroll and like Pete Carroll he is getting crucified for his stance about who he allows on his practice facility.  

Which is it control over your practice facility as coach Joe practice or allow any and everyone to attend the practice facility as coach Pete allowed.

I suppose I might consider coach Joe’s methods and procedure to be the best of the two as I can not remember Penn State being on probation as Pete Carrolls  school was placed a couple of years ago, for institutional control.
I can see why the college coaches earn as much as they do, it is difficult to decide which is the correct thing to do.

Scouts normally are able to see film of all players. Then there are the pro days, combines, bowl games, all star games.

To me the scout is simply using this as an excuse to get on the campus. Coach Joe has seen through this and taken action to prevent the same thing that happened at SC.


Since: Aug 14, 2006
Posted on: November 10, 2011 2:32 pm

Many NFL scouts won't miss Paterno

So what you're saying is Paterno helped his players go higher in the draft some times than they deserved.  As their head coach and mentor, isn't that a good thing?  His responsibility was to his players, not the NFL and their scouts.
this is true!  this make him a better coach, not worse. 

He must be white to be demeaned in a freeman articrap....

Since: Mar 11, 2010
Posted on: November 10, 2011 2:31 pm

Many NFL scouts won't miss Paterno

If it were me, Penn St. would be OUT of the Big Ten by Monday morning the 14th of November. They have to get tough with these programs and MAKE them pay attention to the rules of the NCAA and the rights of people in general. Make the penalty high, then they will figure it out.

Since: Sep 4, 2006
Posted on: November 10, 2011 2:19 pm

Many NFL scouts won't miss Paterno

All a scout really needs to do is watch the kid play on the field and that is plenty enough to make a determination.  Why do they have to be all up and in the kids business?
And that is how JaMarcus Russell gets drafted so high...

Since: Sep 17, 2009
Posted on: November 10, 2011 2:11 pm

Many NFL scouts won't miss Paterno


What an idiot!  Pro Scouts are paying players, etc.  Pro Scouts determine if a player is drafted and in what round they are drafted.  Only watching a player on the field is a small portion of what evaluation needs to be done before a scout can report back to his team with a recommendation to draft a certain player.

Understanding their work ethic (watching practice) and understanding their personality (interviewing them) are as important if not more important than what they do on Saturday afternoons as compared to what they may or may not be able to do on Sunday afternoons.

Joe Pa's reputation as a control freak is very widely known.  Even those right now that are saying the Graham Spanier bowed to Joe Paterno onyl know half the story.  Spanier has been trying to get Joe Paterno to retire for years.  It has been Joe Pa's fans and his buddies in high places that have kept him at Penn State so long.

As far as what a college football team is trying to accomplish differes greatly from school to school, but I can gurantee you that every school playing at the level that Penn State plays has a team on which a majority of the players are playing for and NFL career, rather than a high school coaching job.  I know there are exceptions, but there are way more that are in that category than not.

And finally, by bringing in the race card into your comments really tells me what I need to know about you!! 

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: November 10, 2011 2:09 pm

Many NFL scouts won't miss Paterno

 Todd Blackledge turned out to be decent QBs.

In which reality is this statement true?

Since: Oct 6, 2006
Posted on: November 10, 2011 2:07 pm
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Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: November 10, 2011 2:05 pm

Many NFL scouts won't miss Paterno

Freeman: There is no reason for you to be covering sports unless its regarding the Kardashian/Humphreys divorce and the subsequent dinner with Reggie Bush.


Since: Mar 20, 2010
Posted on: November 10, 2011 1:54 pm

Many NFL scouts won't miss Paterno

Way to pile on today Freeman.  Man you are a f-ing turd aren't you???

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