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Many NFL scouts won't miss Paterno

Posted on: November 10, 2011 12:44 pm
One NFC scout was asked how he felt about Joe Paterno leaving.

"I hate to see any of this stuff happening," the scout said, "but people in my line of work won't miss him."

The reason? Paterno was notorious for his abuse of scouts and personnel men who tried to interview players or the staff in preparation for the NFL draft and free agency.

None of this stuff compares to the grand ugliness that happened at the school regarding molestation charges but it does open a small window -- a tiny one -- into how tight control Paterno had at the school.

It wasn't unusual for scouts to set up an appointment to speak with a player or group of players, or even Paterno himself, only to find after traveling to campus Paterno would cancel all appointments.

Eventually, I'm told, scouts were only allowed to come on certain open dates. Sometimes they'd be allowed to watch practice, sometimes not. Paterno had his favorites and would let certain scouts he liked or thought were friends of the program have better access to the team than others.

"Penn State was one of the worst places to try and do your job," said the scout.

Dan Shonka, a former scout, tweeted recently: "I have received several e-mails from retired and present #NFL scouts that reminded me that #JoePaterno hindered us from doing our job at #PennSt How so? #CoachPaterno had a rule that scouts could only visit on open dates and watching prospects during practice was not allowed. Many #scouts blame #PennSt busts over the years on the lack of info #CoachPaterno let out..."

Category: NFL
Tags: Penn State

Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: November 10, 2011 1:52 pm

Many NFL scouts won't miss Paterno

Yeah, we wouldn't want these kids that are being looked at for the NFL to get big heads, or for other players to see preferential treatment, or maybe even see kids possibly get money from a pro scout.  That has never happened right?  Yeah, I am confused as to where this is wrong.  High School coaches do this with college coaches.  Should that crap take away from the focus of what the team is trying to accomplish because an NFL scout wants to "do his job"?  Exactly what is that anyway?  All a scout really needs to do is watch the kid play on the field and that is plenty enough to make a determination.  Why do they have to be all up and in the kids business?  They don't!  College coaches are set based on NCAA rules on when they can and cannot contact high school athletes and even take it further than this.  NFL thinks because they are the NFL they have rights to all college athletes.  I don't think so.  I will say what many are thinking.  I wonder if this was a black man if Freeman would be unloading on him?  Probably not. 

Since: Nov 10, 2011
Posted on: November 10, 2011 1:46 pm

Many NFL scouts won't miss Paterno

For the people that think that scouts "prey" on players - I think you're confusing them with AGENTS. As for people criticizing the timing of this article, my guess is that in a month or so you'll be wishing this type of story was being written about JoePa. He's gotten a free ride for so long that there must be people chomping at the bit with disparaging stories. 

Since: May 15, 2009
Posted on: November 10, 2011 1:45 pm

Many NFL scouts won't miss Paterno

Sounds like the scouts didn't do there job very good.  If you can't get a hold of some tape or when the school's have there pro-day and rank a player based off that, you ain't very good.  Plus, usually there is about 3 years of tape or info about the player that they can go off of.  A lot of the "bust" from Penn State were because of injury (Kijana Carter).  Kerry Collins and Todd Blackledge turned out to be decent QBs.

Since: Nov 9, 2011
Posted on: November 10, 2011 1:42 pm

Many NFL scouts won't miss Paterno

I will agree that Freeman is just "piling on" with this. That being said, considering the shower allegations, perhaps you might want to reconsider your claim JoePa ran a clean program.

Since: Nov 21, 2006
Posted on: November 10, 2011 1:31 pm

Many NFL scouts won't miss Paterno

Paterno's name ='s hits right now.  Why waste time putting any energy into writing a quality article when you can write garbage like this and still get hits. 

Since: Oct 6, 2006
Posted on: November 10, 2011 1:28 pm

Many NFL scouts won't miss Paterno

Piling on?!?  I guess its not open season for those who want to write something negative about Joe-Pa.  But, really? An article on how horrible it is that Joe Pa, who ran a clean program for 50 years, would not let NFL scouts prey on his players.  Deck chairs on the Titanic.

Since: Sep 25, 2008
Posted on: November 10, 2011 1:24 pm

Many NFL scouts won't miss Paterno

Leave it to Freeman to pile on Paterno when he is at rock bottom.  Very classy, Mike.  Next thing you are going to write will be that the poor folks that manufacture contact lenses are glad to see Joe go since he wears glasses.  Maybe you will interview someone from a major oil company who is glad Joe is gone because Joe did not drive all over the country to meet recruits in their homes and he was adversely affecting the economy because of it.

If I ran an organization, whether it is a football team, or anything else, I would probably not want distractions for my employees during their work day.  Joe is more likely protecting the student-athlete from keeping these pirahnas out of his practices.  This is exactly why PSU has never had a major violation in their Athletic Department...because they limit the exposure of their student athletes to the scumbags like agents and scouts that are looking to take advantage of the kids to enhance their careers.

Just another in the long line of awful, ill-conceived articles by Freeman over the years...quite frankly he disgusts me...I guess that is his be the resident instigator of this website.  Jerk.

Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: November 10, 2011 1:22 pm

Many NFL scouts won't miss Paterno

Thank goodness the scouts can get back to business as usual and Penn State will be easier to work with now huh?  What a ludicrous article.  CBS has some really good writers who take on on some pretty serious subjects and then they have guys like Freeman who write fluff.  I'm guessing all the jobs at the Enquirer were taken.

Since: Feb 16, 2008
Posted on: November 10, 2011 1:22 pm

Many NFL scouts won't miss Paterno

scouting a game and scouting a practice are 2 completely different things.  In game play a particular player may never get the opportunity to showcase the strenghts and weaknesses that would be more apparent during a practice were repeteive drills are performed with regularity.  

Scouts get much more out of watching a practice than they do a game when scouting individual players, nor are scouts paid to judge a player based on their intellectual ability.  They are paid to judge a players physical skills.   

Since: Sep 12, 2006
Posted on: November 10, 2011 1:18 pm

Many NFL scouts won't miss Paterno

But it's not just playing skills AvengersGirl.  These scouts would also be looking for work ethic.  How do the players do in practices?  Do they loaf around relying on their natural ability or are they hard workers who bust their asses at every practice?  A loafer is not going to survive at the next level when everyone in the NFL has natural talent.

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