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Parcells has HOF chops, his exclusion a mystery

Posted on: February 4, 2012 6:32 pm
Edited on: February 4, 2012 10:25 pm
 
I'm not going to be one of those whining, smirking people who complains about the Hall of Fame voting process. I know some of those men in the room. Many are skilled, brilliant and extremely smart about the game. A handful are arrogant jerks with hardcore agendas but the vast majority know what they are doing.

So I'm not going to complain as much as simply be stunned over the omission of Bill Parcells. I'm not a Parcells fan. He treated many people in my business terribly and wasn't exactly a great human being. But to me, in history, there are few better coaches.

The two greatest motivators in NFL history, the coaches who got players to do things and go places in their careers they thought they never could, were Don Shula and Parcells. The best pure motivators ever. Period. That is a coach's primary job. Nothing happens before that -- not the Xs and Os, nothing -- before getting a player mentally ready. Shula was the best at that (what he did in Miami with the then expansion Dolphins is borderline miraculous) and Parcells was second.

He turned around the Giants, the Patriots and Jets when those latter two organizations were absolutely awful.

My guess as to what hurt Parcells. First -- and no one will admit this but it's true -- the way he treated some writers played a factor. Writers have long memories and we can be just as petty anyone else. There likely were a few writers in the room who were either treated poorly by Parcells -- or know people who were -- and this was a form of payback.

I've also heard some writers over the years (including some in that room) say that Bill Belichick made Parcells and Parcells never made it back to a Super Bowl without Belichick.

But most importantly it is accurate that when Parcells left organizations he left them atomized. His departures were sometimes very ugly and it likely also did not help Parcells that he left the Dolphins in semi-ruins.

But overall his record -- he took the Giants, Jets, Patriots and Cowboys to the playoffs while winning two of three Super Bowl appearances -- was more than enough to overcome his faults.

No, not a complaint here. Just sort of stunned.
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Since: Feb 24, 2007
Posted on: February 5, 2012 11:50 am
 

Parcells has HOF chops, his exclusion a mystery

Two short points.

First of all I despise Bill Parcells for the way he behaved as public person off the field, just as I despise his drinking buddy Bobby Knight. That said they both are top of the class, first ballot HOF'ers and anyone that would not put them there for their accomplishments, sacrifices and contributions to the game, it's future as well as legacy, should be removed from the committee. The same as when baseball writers do not vote for the best player because they don't think anyone should be unanimous, or they figure the guy will get in anyway, so they manipulate their vote to try to help a lesser player get in. You vote for the best player or the player that deserves to get in, depending on the sport.

Which bring us to point two. As long as a small grouup of people decide who gets in and who does not, the system will be fatally flawed. It is already flawed because theyare REQUIRED to put in 5 or 6 guys every year. half the guys they put in thse days do not deserve it. They just happen to be the best 5 or 6 guys among the bunch. It is the Hall of Fame for the very best to ever play the sport to be immortilized in bronze, not a football museum of pretty good guys. This class should have had three or four guys in it. Two of which didn't even make it.

I do agree with some of the other posters who say the snubs were bette than the inductees.



Since: May 15, 2009
Posted on: February 5, 2012 11:50 am
 

Parcells has HOF chops, his exclusion a mystery

Parcells being in the HOF is a no-brainer!


-Redskins fan. 



Since: Dec 2, 2007
Posted on: February 5, 2012 11:49 am
 

Parcells has HOF chops, his exclusion a mystery

It is sad that sportswriters are giving so much power that they can hold grudges or some other gripe that those that deserved to be recognized aren't. There is no valid reason that Bill Parcells should not of been elected to the Hall of Fame. Are you going to tell me that Marv Levy is a HOF coach and not Parcells? Say that without laughing to yourself. Both Parcells and Cris Carter should of been no brainers and although Martin should be in the hall, it shouldn't of been before Bettis. And, Charles Haley, the only player with  5 Rings and a disruptive force for the Super Bowl Champion 49ers and Cowboys is another one that makes no sense.

By the way, as we watch Belicek go for another Super Bowl title, let's remember who he started under as a coach......that's right, Bill Parcells.



Since: Oct 26, 2009
Posted on: February 5, 2012 11:29 am
 

Parcells has HOF chops, his exclusion a mystery

When I look at the list of the six guys going into the Hall of Fame this year and compare it to the list of guys NOT going in, I think I would rather take the list of guys that got denied.  I have heard many commentators and writers speak of the HOF selection process and mention the requirement that the individual has to have made a significant, historic, contribution to the game of football.  The idea is that the player/coach up for the Hall has to have had a career that was SO great that the history of American football could not be written without mentioning this person.  Now I will apologize first, but there are guys going into the HOF this year that I could write the history of football and omit.  This is one of the weakest HOF classes in years.  With all of this commentary…How do you omit Parcells period but much less in this lackluster class?!  Parcells cannot be left out in the cold here!  I don’t even like Parcells and he still makes me cringe and get that ”what a jerk” feeling when I see him on ESPN.  But, Parcells was a great coach…Parcells wasn’t a sexy coach, and he gave plenty of people good reasons not to like him.  But come on, judge his body of work.  Parcells has a 172 regular season wins, 130 loses.  The guy is 11-8 in the playoffs with two Super Bowls wins.  Parcells mentored Bill Belichick, Tom Coughlin, Sean Payton, Charlie Weis, Romeo Crennel, Eric Mangini, and Tony Sparano; just to throw the bigger names out there.  Some might say some of these guys were why Parcells won games but I like to think that Parcells had a greater impact on them and their success.  Parcells should file charges, petition, something, anything because this is wrong!  I have faith Parcells will get in time but this snub was definitely the equivalent of getting the finger.




Since: Apr 13, 2011
Posted on: February 5, 2012 11:22 am
 

Parcells has HOF chops, his exclusion a mystery

This article: "I'm not going to complain about the omission of Bill Parcells, I'm just going to complain about the omission of Bill Parcells."



Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: February 5, 2012 10:41 am
 

Parcells has HOF chops, his exclusion a mystery

Actually the media hating someone usually works in the opposite way. Perfect exampl is when jim rice was being considered for the mlb hall of fame. All of the writers that hated him because rice treated them like garbage voted for him. The reason being is that they didnt want to seem petty or bitter about their decisions. So in reality those people tend to look at it more objectively than you think.

I do think parcells should get in. Look at all the good coached that he has taught as well. He took 2 different teams to the superbowl. He definitely had a shelf life no doubt about it but he deserves to be in the hall 



Since: Jul 26, 2011
Posted on: February 5, 2012 10:29 am
 

Parcells has HOF chops, his exclusion a mystery

Seriously doubt Parcells was "snubbed" by the voters.  Someday he will get in, just not right now.  You should have spoke to Willie Roaf and the like.  There are some folks in the Hall of Fame that are unexplainable.  But...there isn't a standard and until there is, it will look strange as to who gets in and who doesn't.



Since: Aug 7, 2007
Posted on: February 5, 2012 10:23 am
 

Parcells has HOF chops, his exclusion a mystery

I've also heard some writers over the years (including some in that room) say that Bill Belichick made Parcells and Parcells never made it back to a Super Bowl without Belichick.

Not only has Parcells never made it to a Super Bowl without Belichick, he's never won a single PLAYOFF game without Belichick.....and since Parcells' reputation was always centered around a strong defense, well.......

He's not as HOF-worthy as people might believe.




Since: May 11, 2007
Posted on: February 5, 2012 10:20 am
 

Parcells has HOF chops, his exclusion a mystery

What about Jerry Kramer? One of the`60s best Gs, and not in the HOF? And the reason they give... There`s already enough players from that great Packers dynasty in the HOF already.



Since: Nov 18, 2011
Posted on: February 5, 2012 8:43 am
 

Parcells has HOF chops, his exclusion a mystery

Regarding the alleged Pro Football Hall of Fame, and considering the players enshrined there:

Randy Gradishar, Denver Broncos ILB, 1974-1983
Recruited to Ohio State for his basketball skills.  Finished sixth in the 1973 Heisman Trophy vote.  145 career games; 2,049 tackles, 20 interceptions, 20 sacks.  That's averaging over 14 tackles per game.  Was never on a Super Bowl winning team.  Wore a helmet with a "D" on it.

Harry Carson, New York Giants LB, 1976-1988
173 career games; 1,488 tackles; 124 tackles per year average; 11 interceptions, 8 sacks.  Was on one Super Bowl winning team.  Wore a helmet with "Giants" on it.     

So Carson is worthy of "fame"... makes it all a comical farce.   


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