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Brett Favre...Hall of Famer but barely top 10

Posted on: March 4, 2008 12:06 pm
Edited on: March 4, 2008 3:29 pm
 
These are the quarterbacks I would take over Brett Favre, who I thought would only retire after they pried the football from his cold, dead hands:<br />

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Tom Brady, Joe Montana, John Elway, Peyton Manning, John Unitas, Otto Graham (the most underrated thrower perhaps ever), Dan Marino, Steve Young, Warren Moon, Roger Staubach and Terry Bradshaw.<br />

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All of them had better careers than Favre.<br />

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Favre's greatest asset was his endurance but his greatest weakness was his inaccuracy. He tossed more interceptions than any quarterback ever and that's not a good thing for an NFL thrower.<br />

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Favre has been called a "gunslinger" a term that always amused me. When did that become code for error prone?<br />

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All athletes should take notice of how Favre handled the media and fans. He treated both well and the media overlooked his glaring weaknesses as a quarterback because they liked him personally. He was rarely taken to task for throwing so many key interceptions in so many big spots.<br />

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A non-partisan eye looks at Favre's career and sees it for what it was: he achieved Hall of Fame status and was a perfect fit in one of the top football towns in America but he never reached the top tier status of a Brady or Marino.

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Since: Feb 9, 2007
Posted on: March 5, 2008 7:02 pm
 

Brett Favre...Hall of Famer but barely top 10

Zamboni: Wikipedia has my age wrong;I'm actually a lot younger.

I wasn't present for the moon landing either but I sure think it was a neat thing. I don't have to see Otto Graham play. I've read books about him, like Paul Brown's book. I've spoken to people who saw him play. I can form an opinion without seeing him just like someone can form an opinion on the Iraq war without being in the Middle East.

Carry on.




Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: March 5, 2008 4:40 pm
 

Brett Favre...Hall of Famer but barely top 10

Favre has most of the passing records, which makes him a sure-fire first ballot Hall of Famer.  That doesn't mean he's the best of all time, or even that he is definitely in the Top 5, or Top 10.  He played a long, long time during an era in which passing was much more prevalent than when Aikman, Montana, Bradshaw and Elway played.  If Adrian Peterson runs the ball more times and gains more yards than Emmit Smith or Walter Payton, he won't be regarded by all as the best running back ever. 

Sure the game has changed and passing has become more prevelant, however one thing remains the same and thats wins and losses.  Since Favre took over the Packers, the franchise has won more games than any other in the  league.  Now add that to all the records that he broke and he's accomplished quite a bit in his career.  If you want to base opinions on the number of interceptions you also have to remember that passing became more prevelant during his time.  How many int's would Aikman, Graham, Staubauch etc throw if they put the ball up more times in there career?  I think it's pretty safe to say they'd have more picks.  If you want to base your opinion that he only won SB then so be it but just using those two categories alone is pretty weak. 

Freeman must have seen Otto Graham's greatest highlight reel to base his opinions off of.  Did we just catch him talking out of his backside?




Since: May 30, 2007
Posted on: March 5, 2008 4:16 pm
 

Brett Favre...Hall of Famer but barely top 10

Favre has most of the passing records, which makes him a sure-fire first ballot Hall of Famer.  That doesn't mean he's the best of all time, or even that he is definitely in the Top 5, or Top 10.  He played a long, long time during an era in which passing was much more prevalent than when Aikman, Montana, Bradshaw and Elway played.  If Adrian Peterson runs the ball more times and gains more yards than Emmit Smith or Walter Payton, he won't be regarded by all as the best running back ever. 

As the NFL ages, more and more great players excel at the game according to how it is played in their particular generation.  It is an extremely difficult, if not impossible task to compare players from different eras.  I don't think claiming Favre is not even in someone's Top 10 is necessarily a denigration of his ability.  There have been a heck of a lot of QBs to play in the NFL, and if Favre is one of the few that make it into the Hall of Fame in his first year of eligibility, which he will, then he is on the top rung of the ladder.  His overall career performance cannot be exceeded by any measurable criteria - he made it into the Hall as soon as was possible.  What gets a player to that point varies - SB wins, MVPs, TDs, passing/rushing yards.  In that respect, he reached the pinnacle of his profession, the same as Montana, Elway, Bradshaw, Staubach, and the other all-time greats.




Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: March 5, 2008 3:20 pm
 

Brett Favre...Hall of Famer but barely top 10

Was Freeman alive to see all of the QB's he'd rather have leading his team?  It'd be funny if Freeman is saying Grahm was the most underrated player if he wasn't even born during his era.  Just Curious 

Otto Graham played from 1946 to 1955.  According to Wikipedia, Mike Freeman was born in 1961. 



Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: March 5, 2008 2:38 pm
 

Brett Favre...Hall of Famer but barely top 10

Was Freeman alive to see all of the QB's he'd rather have leading his team?  It'd be funny if Freeman is saying Grahm was the most underrated player if he wasn't even born during his era.  Just Curious 



Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: March 5, 2008 2:10 pm
 

Brett Favre...Hall of Famer but barely top 10

Clearly, you're just another pathetic, cow herding homer with a complex. 
Try replying to one of my others posts and maybe I will consider you relevant.  Until then look in the mirror if you want to see pathetic.



Since: Mar 29, 2007
Posted on: March 5, 2008 1:24 pm
 

Brett Favre...Hall of Famer but barely top 10

For a bunch of "cow hearding homers" I'm seeing plenty of arguments that include statistical proof.  Unlike the original article.  Maybe the author would like another try.  And this time please put some thought into it.



Since: Feb 4, 2008
Posted on: March 5, 2008 1:11 pm
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Since: Oct 31, 2006
Posted on: March 5, 2008 1:06 pm
 

Brett Favre...Hall of Famer but barely top 10

, Joe Montana, John Elway, , John Unitas, Otto Graham (the most underrated thrower perhaps ever), Dan Marino, Steve Young, Warren Moon, Roger Staubach and Terry Bradshaw.<br /


Let me put a little perspective on this.......so you can see how truly dumb the career INT record is in this comment.

Brett Favre career INT %    (INTs per 100 pass attempts)     3.3%

Unitas 4.9%   Moon  3.4%    Staubach  3.7%   Bradshaw (the biggest joke on this board)  5.4%

That means that Unitas, Moon, Staubach, and Bradshaw all were more prone to throw INTs than Favre. 

Elway after his first 10 seasons had 158 TDS and 157 INTs.  Maybe there's a reason the Broncos were down in the 4th quarter so often.

And finally, who in the heck can even put Otto Graham in the all time arguement?   There isn't one poster on this board that has seen even a black and white replay clip of him play.  Oh and by the way, Graham has a 5.1% INT rate all time.




Since: Oct 24, 2007
Posted on: March 5, 2008 12:48 pm
 

Brett Favre...Hall of Famer but barely top 10

The majority of the idiotic opinions that you write just prove how you are a Packer Hating Bears Fan.  This article has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever read from a so-called writer. You are a Hack. Brady? Moon?? BRADSHAW?????? You are clueless



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