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Brett Favre...Hall of Famer but barely top 10

Posted on: March 4, 2008 12:06 pm
Edited on: March 4, 2008 3:29 pm
 
These are the quarterbacks I would take over Brett Favre, who I thought would only retire after they pried the football from his cold, dead hands:<br />

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Tom Brady, Joe Montana, John Elway, Peyton Manning, John Unitas, Otto Graham (the most underrated thrower perhaps ever), Dan Marino, Steve Young, Warren Moon, Roger Staubach and Terry Bradshaw.<br />

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All of them had better careers than Favre.<br />

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Favre's greatest asset was his endurance but his greatest weakness was his inaccuracy. He tossed more interceptions than any quarterback ever and that's not a good thing for an NFL thrower.<br />

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Favre has been called a "gunslinger" a term that always amused me. When did that become code for error prone?<br />

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All athletes should take notice of how Favre handled the media and fans. He treated both well and the media overlooked his glaring weaknesses as a quarterback because they liked him personally. He was rarely taken to task for throwing so many key interceptions in so many big spots.<br />

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A non-partisan eye looks at Favre's career and sees it for what it was: he achieved Hall of Fame status and was a perfect fit in one of the top football towns in America but he never reached the top tier status of a Brady or Marino.

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carolina8800
Since: Dec 11, 2007
Posted on: March 5, 2008 12:25 pm
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Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: March 5, 2008 12:12 pm
 

Brett Favre...Hall of Famer but barely top 10

Favre has been called a "gunslinger" a term that always amused me. When did that become code for error prone?

This is the biggest misperception surrounding Brett Favre.  He did not get this monicker because of interceptions he got it because he could make passes that other quarterbacks couldn't make in their dreams. 

Here's a list of elite qbs who threw interceptions at a higher rate than Brett Favre (3.3 Int%):  Terry Bradshaw 5.5%, Otto Graham 5.1%, Johnny Unitas 4.9%, Bart Starr 4.4%, Dan Fouts 4.3%, Roger Staubach 3.7%, Jim Kelly 3.7%. 

These are the greats of the game and they threw a picks at a higher rate.  What they didn't do was make the spectacular td throw to earn the "gunslinger" reputation. 

For the record Elway is 3.1%, Marino 3.0%, Aikman 3.0% which is better, but only Marino compares on the Td% where Favre is 5.0%, Marino 5.0%, Elway 4.1% and Aikman 3.5%. 




Since: Mar 3, 2008
Posted on: March 5, 2008 10:14 am
 

Brett Favre...Hall of Famer but barely top 10

It's time to stop Top 10's and go Top 20's for QB's of all time (and RB's, for that matter). There have been simply so many greats in all the time. Or separate into eras. All-time lists have very few authors who have seen Otto Graham, Sid Luckman, Johnny Unitas, Sammy Baugh- for that matter, many of the posters here don't seem to remember just how good Roger Staubach, Terry Bradshaw or Joe Montana really were in their day.

I would propose all "Top 10's" be split into pre-SB and SuperBowl era lists. You simply can't compare Otto Graham to Peyton Manning- they barely play the same game. I would propose, then:

SB Era:

1. Joe Montana: The rings, the career- generally accepted as the best of the era

2. Terry Bradshaw: More rings than anyone else. If you're old enough to remember his glory days, you'll understand this ranking

3. John Elway: Greatest comeback QB of all-time (but of course, that meant his team was in the situation more, too). I'm tempted to drop him further down the list because of the Indy/Baltimore holdout thing. 2 rings allow him to stay high on the list

4. Tom Brady: 3 rings and more may be coming. I can't see him moving up the list any, but could sure see him drop some if he doesn't gather more.

5. Roger Staubach: Practically invented the whole 2-minute drill thing.

6. Troy Aikman: Behind Staubach only because I'm old. 3 rings gets you on the list. Possibly the most accurate QB ever. While one argument is that he had so much talent around him, the other is that Emmitt took some of his yards from the passing game on his way to NFL record.

7. Dan Marino: Probably below Peyton by the time all is said and done. Ridiculous stats put him here.

8. Peyton Manning: Noone owns the offense anymore like he does.

9. Brett Favre: Longevity, stats, a Ring, making the Packers matter again (and for a long time)

10. Bart Starr: 2 rings to start the whole thing off; can't bring myself to drop from the list

Honorable Mention:

Jim Kelly: 4 SB's but no ring keep him just out of the Top 10

Fran Tarkenton: Ditto, but only 3 losses. Opened the door for the scrambling QB style

Dan Fouts: Ridiculous numbers, but never in the Bowl

Joe Namath: 1 SB, but the Guarantee was big. Legend was better than the QB

Bob Griese: Had to be considered, but too many ahead of him

Warren Moon: A full career in the NFL would likely have him higher. Opened lots of doors for those following

Steve Young: Good enough to be top 10, but too much time in Montana's shadow

 




Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: March 5, 2008 10:09 am
 

Brett Favre...Hall of Famer but barely top 10

Carolina: I think you nailed it.

Referring to last night?  Or, the fall back position for someone who cannot argue that facts?




Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: March 5, 2008 10:05 am
 

Brett Favre...Hall of Famer but barely top 10

Really Freeman?  Your only negative on the guy is that he threw alot of interceptions.  You said his greatest asset was longevity.  If you are going to discount all the records because of that then you have to do the same for the interceptions.

If Freeman is correct that the greatest asset was longevity than why is Elway so far behind Favre.  Elway would need to to average 6 tds a game for 22 games to equal Favre.  Elway would have to average 462 yards per game for 22 games to catch Favre.  Elway gets too much credit for going out on two superbowl victories.  He was a big part of them, but not the most important part.  Denver had a great o-line and a great, MVP type, RB who were much more integral. 

This is not Packer homerism.  This is disdain for an unreasonable, borderline imbecilic, position. 




Since: Nov 15, 2006
Posted on: March 5, 2008 8:30 am
 

Brett Favre...Hall of Famer but barely top 10

What are you smoking Freeman?!  Warren Moon in your top 10...YGBSM!  What did he ever win?  The Canadian Ice Capades?  Obviously you must be a Bear fan. 



Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: March 5, 2008 7:56 am
 

Brett Favre...Hall of Famer but barely top 10

Really Freeman?  Your only negative on the guy is that he threw alot of interceptions.  You said his greatest asset was longevity.  If you are going to discount all the records because of that then you have to do the same for the interceptions.  My guess is that you maybe watch the Pack play 3 or 4 times per year.  It's a good thing you can base your opinions off that.



Since: Feb 9, 2007
Posted on: March 5, 2008 7:28 am
 

Brett Favre...Hall of Famer but barely top 10

Carolina: I think you nailed it.


carolina8800
Since: Dec 11, 2007
Posted on: March 5, 2008 3:24 am
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Since: Nov 9, 2006
Posted on: March 5, 2008 3:07 am
 

Brett Favre...Hall of Famer but barely top 10

Freeman, just hand in your "credentials" now.  You are horrible and this ranking is further proof.  Looking forward to another ridiculous round of reports from training camp from you - made up stories and nonsense that make no sense.  Your eye for evaluation is laughable.  Please just quit now. 


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