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Miller: Tiger's gone from Tucson to Tyson

Posted on: February 26, 2011 9:17 am
 
MARANA, Ariz. -- He was bounced in the first round, sent packing back to Orlando, the driving range across the street from his home, his latest swing coach, with another bruise to his resume and another fallen peg in the world golf ranking.

Tiger Woods will be No. 4 in the world, or worse depending on how the weekend plays out at the Accenture World Match Play Championship, the lowest ranking since before he won his first major at the Masters in 1997, but he remains very much a front-burner topic.

Just ask the analysts.

Friday night, the Golf Channel aired a state-of-the-game roundtable with the game's brightest talking heads: Johnny Miller, Nick Faldo, Roger Maltbie and Brandell Chamblee. The state of Tiger's game essentially superceded any talk of this week's developments at Dove Mountain.

Miller said he feels like he is watching the second installment of an all-time American sporting tragedy. 

"It's a little bit like a Mike Tyson story to be honest with you," Miller said. "Sort of invincible, scared everybody, performed quickly under pressure, and until the Buster Douglas came along, of life, Tiger started to hit that in his life."

Tyson was convicted or rape charges, took an upset beating at the hands of Douglas and was never the same in or outside the ring.

"His life crumbled and it's like Humpty Dumpty," Miller said. "He was on the high wall way above all the other players and had a great fall, and there's pieces all over the place and [he's] trying to put them together.

"It's a tough thing because as my father said the psyche in golf is very delicate, it's very fragile, and when you lose your psyche and your confidence, there's nothing you can do to get that back except for play more tournaments and get put your rounds out there if they're bad, but turn it around and start playing some good rounds and posting some good scores, otherwise you're just doing it on the practice tee."

As he has previously, Chamblee questioned Woods' insistence on making a series of swing changes.

"I think he is the eternal warrior against complacency," Chamblee said. "He's always trying to sharpen the knife. But really what is he trying to do? If you look at the success he had from 2000 to 2002, he won seven of 11 major championships. Let's just say he finally gets all the stuff that he's trying to do with this golf swing, and where does he want to be on the other end of it, in a spot where he can win major championships by wide margins, which was exactly where he was, and all he's done is cost himself a couple years when he'd have been racking up major championships.

"You look at him now and he looks completely lost. He looks like a hunting dog with a bad nose out there; he's on this trail, he's on that trail stuck in between the golf swing that he had in 2000 because he is trying it looks to me to get more upright, but he still has that same lower body action that he had with Hank Haney. It's more rotary, it's more of a flat swing sort of rotation, so he's stuck between these two golf swings. 

"But whether it's with Butch [Harmon] or when he had the perfect golf swing, and here we see him in the playoff when he was just going on and on and making all these practice swings, and that tells you right there that he is playing golf swing, not golf shot."
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Since: Mar 1, 2011
Posted on: March 1, 2011 2:12 pm
 

Miller: Tiger's gone from Tucson to Tyson

Not sure if any of us are going away anytime soon. The only solution i can think of for u is, join a country club. U should have no problem getting through 18 holes under 5 hours. Money mouthTongue out Sorry for the inconvience but we are here to stay, well, at least I am



Since: Mar 1, 2011
Posted on: March 1, 2011 2:09 pm
 

Miller: Tiger's gone from Tucson to Tyson

Not sure if any of us are going away anytime soon. The only solution i can think of for u is, join a country club. U should have no problem getting through 18 holes under 5 hours. Money mouthTongue out Sorry for the inconvience but we are here to stay, well, at least I am.



Since: Jan 21, 2010
Posted on: March 1, 2011 1:37 pm
 

Miller: Tiger's gone from Tucson to Tyson

Tiger has had a wonderful run on the golf course.  Even though I am not a big Tiger fan, I enjoyed watching his accomplishments on the golf course and of the amazing shots he has pulled off over the years (the chip in on the par 3 at the masters to beat Chris DeMarco comes to mind).   Every generation there seems to be a player that ability wise is above the rest such as Norman, Nicklaus, Hogan, Snead, Jones and so on.   Now, there are several golfers at this time  are trying to get to that level and only time will tell who rises up to that elite level.  I am looking forward to watching that competition.  If Tiger gets his game back to the level that he did a few years ago, good for him but only time will tell and it is going to be very difficult to accomplish.



Since: Apr 17, 2007
Posted on: March 1, 2011 8:06 am
 

Miller: Tiger's gone from Tucson to Tyson

Tiger isn't black.  Does anybody acknowledge this????  Banging on Tiger is NOT banging on a black man.  I mean, I never heard  someone call Barack Obama white.......  He's not black either.  White and Asain people, last time I checked, are not black.  So why don't the Asains claim Tiger or the whites claim Barack?????  I use the word 'claim' loosely here......
Figure that out for me please...... somebody....



Since: Nov 4, 2006
Posted on: February 28, 2011 9:46 pm
 

Miller: Tiger's gone from Tucson to Tyson

Well said. I've been waiting for a while now for all the "golf" fans that came out with Woods to go away. Now that Woods is well past his prime, hopefully they will. I'll be glad when I can play an under five hour round again without all the "golf" fans in the way. I've never seen a larger group of fans that knew less about the game they followed than the Woods fans. Their etiquette is atrocious, their abilities are almost as bad and their bandwagon mentality was horrible too. Hopefully, the later of the three will lead them to another place.  Surely there is a black guy sticking it to the man somewhere else.  It will be nice to just watch him play without all his "fans" screwing it up for those of us that truely love the game.

Wow. Way to lower a thread that was originally about the similarities betwen the fall of two great athletes. You don't even try to mask your racism. Thanks for bringing us back to the good old days. How can these "fans" even be allowed on the golf course with those of you that "truely love the game"?



Since: Aug 17, 2008
Posted on: February 28, 2011 8:31 pm
 

Miller: Tiger's gone from Tucson to Tyson

miller had 25 wins and 2 majors, even john daly won 2 majors.  Miller has always been a Tiger hater.  Maybe they should play each other.



Since: Aug 17, 2008
Posted on: February 28, 2011 8:29 pm
 

Miller: Tiger's gone from Tucson to Tyson

As far as miller's comments go... How would he know anything he was never as successful as Tiger woods.



Since: Aug 17, 2008
Posted on: February 28, 2011 8:26 pm
 

Miller: Tiger's gone from Tucson to Tyson

The problem with this whole thing is that who ever wins each week seems to be crowned as the next great player.  Who will win 4 or 5 tournements or even 2 majors this year?  With Tiger in a slump it is giving 5 or 6 other players the chance to take the top spot.  But if you watch no one has been so consistant as to hold the top spot for very long.  I dont see anyone taking contorl of the top spot for a while.   Nave a player that you think will win 4 or 5 this year.  Hmmm The firld is too good.  From week to week its usually someone different.




Since: Feb 20, 2008
Posted on: February 28, 2011 12:50 pm
 

Miller: Tiger's gone from Tucson to Tyson

Tiger if I recall only lost one match in the ryder cup and he had just come back....no doubt the euros right now have some top flight players...it always goes in cycles....it's just depends on individual player development....noone know which players will take the big steps up to elite.....that part is mostly mental in my opinion....lately the euros seem to have the guys that have taken the step....the talent is abundant on both sides of the ocean.....so it's not as territorial as some want to portray



Since: Aug 16, 2010
Posted on: February 28, 2011 9:42 am
 

Miller: Tiger's gone from Tucson to Tyson

How stupid are you? His points were valid, if you know anything about golf.
And get off the racist bring a black guy down B.S. I thought having a black president would help stop this but i guess not!
There's always going to be ignorant, stupid narrow minded people out their.


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