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Paying for lip service

Posted on: May 25, 2009 7:02 pm
Joel Quenneville probably could have gotten cheaper protection from the Sopranos, but if it helps the Chicago Blackhawks get over their Game 4 debacle, the $10,000 fine their coach is paying to the NHL foundation might actually be worth it.

Don't bet on it though. Chicago was already out of the game when Matt Walker was called for roughing at the 20 minute mark of the first period, a penalty that caused the action Quenneville was disciplined for. Detroit had scored 21 seconds before that and added a power play goal a little more than a minute into the second period to make it 3-0 and effectively put things out of reach.

Later, Quenneville opened his post game news conference with what had to be a calculated rant about Walker's penalty because he knows the league doesn't tolerate even mild criticism of its officials. Still the Blackhawks coach said: "We witnessed probably the worst call in the history of sports today. I've never seen anything like it. (The referees) ruined a good hockey game, they absolutely destroyed what was going on on the ice."

Not exactly. The Blackhawks did themselves in by being stupid. They were still seething about the hit Martin Havlat took from Niklas Kronwall in Game 3 and took 16 penalties, including nine for roughing. Several, like Walker's, came after whistles had blown.

It was just a really bad day for a young team that decomposed against a veteran one and got no help from backup goalie Cristobal Huet, who looked awful but still will probably start Game 5 because Nikolai Khabibulin doesn't appear ready to return from an injury. So when it was over, Quenneville did what any smart veteran coach would in a similar situation by trying to deflect the blame away from his players and maybe get their minds away from a perilous situation.

Trouble is Quenneville was as stupid as his players with his words and finds himself lighter in the wallet as a result.
Category: NHL

Since: Aug 23, 2006
Posted on: May 28, 2009 12:10 am

Paying for lip service

Thanks guys! Nice to know I'm appreciated.

Since: Jan 1, 2007
Posted on: May 27, 2009 8:55 pm

Paying for lip service

Canuck77, Good job but it wasn't worth your time, he won't come back and say he was wrong.

Since: Nov 21, 2008
Posted on: May 27, 2009 6:17 pm

Paying for lip service

Good job Canuck77 you say it the way it is, Always brilliant!

Since: Aug 23, 2006
Posted on: May 27, 2009 12:14 pm

Paying for lip service

"If the coaches were really employees of the teams, then the league could never under any circumstances fine them. How can you say coaches don't work for the league but they can get fined by the league??? That doesn't make any sense. If the coaches worked only for their own teams, then the league would fine the team, not quennville.  But they didn't, thus he works for the league. Get it now? It's IMPOSSIBLE to fine somebody that doesn't work for you."

Sorry itsjustme, but your arguement doesn't hold water.  I don't work for the government, but I have to play by their rules if I want to participate in society.  Break a rule (law) and I pay a fine or worse.  The same goes in the NHL.  You want to participate in their league as a coach, you play by their rules or you pay a price.  Coaches are soley employed by the team with whom they have a contract, however they must operate within guidlines determined by the governing body of their league or they face consequences.    Are you trying to say that if you get a speeding ticket, you don't have to pay the fine because your employer is retail chain or an oil company or whatever?  That seems to be the logic I'm reading into this from your arguement.

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: May 26, 2009 2:24 pm
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Since: Dec 8, 2008
Posted on: May 26, 2009 1:55 pm

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Everyone seems focused on the Walker call. That call was the boiling point, but most of the calls made were ticky-tack. The two calls on Veersteg were obnoxious. The same contact occurs every second of every game. Then to give Eager TWO ten minute penalties and a game misconduct for two minor arguments with an official? Come on! It's the playoffs.

I'm not going to say the refs determined the outcome. The RED Army dominated the Hawks and Huet played like crap. They would have lost anyway. But the 6-1 final was a direct result of officiating and created the only blow out of the series so far.

Since: Mar 17, 2009
Posted on: May 26, 2009 11:26 am

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He was given the penalties because he was just trying to hit people and fight. He wasn't playing hockey anymore, non of the Hawks were. Check the penalties too, the game started out 4-4, even in calls. In fact Detroit was called first. Chicago came out and tried to be physical in stead of focusing on defense where they should have been. The Wings just waited for the moment that the young Hawks would mess up and when they did, they paid the price. If Hawks fans want to point some blame, do it to your goalie, he sucked. "No Place for a Nervous Person." Love Franzen but his goal was a soft as butter and it still got in the net. By the way, tell your boy to keep his head up or his career is going to end due to concusions. Again, he got rocked with his head down. Hawks are just do young and no clue how to win. Not yet anyways, I liked this team all year and was happy to see them do good in the playoffs but cannot lose their cool like they did. Read Toews comments even if you don't believe they were looking for Revenge, he even said they were.

Since: Oct 1, 2007
Posted on: May 26, 2009 8:56 am

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I agree.  Whatever happened to freedom of speech here.  Not that any of the calls in this game where bad, but I can think of 1 interference call and the game misconduct that went along with it.  I think the coaches and the players should have the freedom to speak out about the officiating of they games they are playing.  There seems to be no accountablity for the refs when they make bad calls.  Everyone and their brother was saying what a bad call they made on Kronwall in game 3, but the NHL officials just stood there and backed up their refs....come it the way it is.  Just come out and say, Ya, they blew that call.  I'm sure the players and coaches would be much less likely to rant about the refs if they knew the NHL was going to call the refs to the carpet about their bad calls.

Since: Aug 28, 2006
Posted on: May 26, 2009 8:49 am

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The Ref's did not take the Blackhawks out of this game the players did. Everybody but the league offical's and the Blackhawks thought that Kronwall's hit was a good check which I believe it was but we had to go by what the ref's said as does every other team. The Blackhawk's wanted revenge right from the drop of the puck in the first period and that is why they had so many penalties. They have no one to blame but themselves. I will say the referee's have really been inconsistent the entire playoff's which makes it very hard as a player but you have to just go out there and play your game but that is not what the Blackhawks did. They were cross checking and throwing punchs after the whistle in which both teams were warned but the Blackhawks kept on doing it so they got the penalties. If the Blackhawks want to play physical they should have done it during play not after the ref's blew the whistle. Eager was given his 10 minute penalties for his play after the whistle and for his comments to the ref. So you can agree with whom ever you like but you should go to your local book store and pick up a copy of Hockey for Dummies because you really need to learn about the game then maybe you would know how it should be played because you can't blame the NHL for the Blackhawks losing

Since: May 22, 2008
Posted on: May 26, 2009 7:43 am

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I think itsjustme meant the REFS work the league, not the coaches.

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