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BCS debuts today

Posted on: October 19, 2008 9:32 am
 

There will be no suspense today in Austin, Tuscaloosa and State College.

Texas, Alabama and Penn State are expected to debut in the top three spots of the first set of BCS standings released today. The order should match that the human polls. All three solidified their spots with victories on Saturday.

No. 1 Texas and No. 3 Penn State did it in convincing fashion while No. 2 Alabama had to survive a rally from Ole Miss.

The order of the teams, though, might end up to be a trivia question. Only once in the previous 10 years have the top two teams in the first BCS standings met for the national championship. Good news for Texas, that was USC and the Longhorns in 2005.

The BCS standings are calculated by averaging the Harris and coaches' polls along with six computer indexes.

 

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Since: Jan 9, 2008
Posted on: October 20, 2008 10:30 am
 

BCS debuts today

I wasn't contradicting myself, I was just conceding  to a good point made by yourself. I would argue, though, that even if PSU beats OSU this weekend, that win would not be as impressive as any of Bama's top 3 wins if they were to win out: UGA, LSU, and possibly UF. And I'm not sold at all on Iowa or Oregon State doing well. Regardless, this is a pointless argument considering the insanity that was 2007 in college football. For all we know, we could have two 2 loss teams squaring off for the NCG. Playoff anyone? You Big 10 boys need to get on the bandwagon. You guys were the first to consider instant replay, to your credit, but could be last to be on the playoff bandwagon. Why?




Since: Jan 9, 2007
Posted on: October 19, 2008 8:53 pm
 

BCS debuts today

How did you know my name was homer , bob?  I didn't think that information was available.

Anyways, if you read my earlier posts.  You will notice that I stated in my opinion Texas easily deserved the #1 ranking.  and that they indeed had the most difficult road ahead. 

I never stated that Penn State had a more difficult schedule than the other 3 Bob.  I just stated that a reasonable person could rank them #2 based on their performance.  How good is Georgia Bob?  They beat Arizona State.  How good is Arizona State.  How good is Tulane?

Bob did you not see my closing sentence, if Georgia pans out to have a good team Bama resume would be better than Penn State's.

Thanks for your imput Bob.

Sincerely,
Homer



Since: Nov 10, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2008 8:14 pm
 

BCS debuts today

Look at it this way, homer. Texas beat a #1 team in Oklahoma at a neutral site. Alabama beat a #2 team in Georgia on the road. Both opponents are still ranked in the Top 10. Penn State has beaten who? Other than a Wisconsin program that's taking on water? Syracuse. Coastal Carolina. Temple.

Of the top three, the Lions have the thinnest schedule and will continue to have the thinnest schedule. They just aren't schedule-wise in the same league as the Big 12 or the SEC. That's why they are #3



Since: Jan 9, 2007
Posted on: October 19, 2008 7:55 pm
 

BCS debuts today

You're obviously a reasonable person so Im not going to debate you all day.  Let me just predict that you'll find by the end of the season that Oregon State will be a top 25 team.  Probabably 9-4.  If PSU is fortunate enough to beat Ohio State the Buckeyes will finish 10-2 and will have another chance to prove themselves in a good bowl game, maybe BCS, but possibly the Cap One Bowl, where the Big 10 has won the last 4 against the SEC. 

You kind of contradict yourself by saying Bama didn't play well against Tulane for an entire game but think it's out of the realm of possibility that Michigan could put together a good half of football against Penn State.  I can not argue the fact that the Bama win over Georgia was impressive but lets see how Georgia does against your Gators before we close the book on that one. 

When it's all said and done if and I say if Penn State can win in Columbus , then run the table.  There resume would include:
1.  at Columbus
2.  Oregon State
3. at Iowa (8-4) ?
4. Michigan State 9-3
5 Illinois 8-4 or 7-5

Bama's would include (if they win out)
1. Florida (SEC Championship)
2. at Georgia (again let's see how Ga plays out)
3. at LSU
4. Auburn (8-4 or 7-5)
5. Ole Mis (7-5)

If either Georgia and LSU finish strong would agree Bama's resume would be stronger.  By the way I loved the little Nicky reference.



Since: Jan 9, 2008
Posted on: October 19, 2008 7:05 pm
 

BCS debuts today

Are you talking about the same OSU team that lost to Stanford. While their academic prowless is well known, as well as their performance in most sports you probably don't care about (they are considered by most to be the best all around athletic school, if you factor in all sports. That includes lacross and many different rowing events...), they are by no means a football powerhouse. The fact of the matter is OSU played above themselves to beat USC. They are not a good team by anyones standards. Kudos to them for the upset over USC, but they are average at best. As far as Tulane goes, there is not much to say. They didn't play well. But then again, has PSU actually played a team with a winning record yet? Have they played a team like UGA who many believed was destined for the NCG? If you watched that game, UGA took advantage of Bama's second and third stringers to make them look respectable. Notice how UGA scored 20 points in the 4th quarter... But enough defending Alabama, I actually despise them. Little Nicky will burn extra hot in hell for the apparent deal he has made with the Devil. If you really want to make yourself mad, have a look at Bruce Feldman's predictions on bowl games on ESPN.com. He somehow has UF playing in the NCG. Figure that one out....




Since: Jan 9, 2007
Posted on: October 19, 2008 6:29 pm
 

BCS debuts today

Wait a minute, 80 yard touchdown pass yes.  But it was a third down screen pass.  You make it sound as if they ran 4 streaks in a hurry up offense.  It's not are fault they couldn't tackle the guy.

Of course I watched the game.  Gentleman the game is 4 quarters for a reason.  You don't think Tom Bradley's adjustments had anything to do with Michigan's "implosion"? 

I'm still waiting to hear how Alabama needed a special teams touchdown to beat Tulane at home by 13 when Army beat them by a score of 44-13?

I can tell you that this year's path to undefeated for Alabama is far easier than any SEC team in the past.  Two teams.

Georgia-  It was a great win
LSU- in November, not sure where that one is.  Who else do they play?  You must admit the SEC west is not what it normally is this year. and I must admit the Big 10 is pretty freakin bad.
Now if things play out the would have to beat Florida in the Sec Title game. 

Penn State beat Oregon State 45-13, Oregon State could very easily win the Pac-10 and beat the #1 team in the country, and they play at Ohio State (who is a much different team with Terrell Pryor at QB)

And please don't hang Ohio State's failures on us.  Penn State is 6-2 in their last 8 against the SEC.



Since: Jan 9, 2008
Posted on: October 19, 2008 6:15 pm
 

BCS debuts today

Roarlion... Did you watch the game? If it wasn't for a last second TD by PSU, UM was up by 10 at the half. This is important because UM imploded as much as PSU beat them. And it shouldn't have been close! Who did UM lose to the week before AT HOME? A MAC team. Yeah, PSU has been impressive. They beat the crap out of bad teams that they were supposed to beat. Ole Miss has a win over UF at UF, so they obviously aren't that bad. I'm not going to make the ascertian that PSU "would be lucky to finish in the top half of the standings" in the Big 12 or SEC because that is ridiculous. However, I will say that if PSU played as poorly as they did in the first half against a mid tier SEC or Big 12 team, they would much further behind than they were( we're talking 21 points or more). The way the Big 10 has represented itself the last few years on the biggest stages, they deserve to be left out if there is an undefeated SEC and Big 12 team as well.



Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2008 5:13 pm
 

BCS debuts today

Strength of Schedule from Jeff Sagarin... Texas 24, Alabama 53, 82. Opponent's records... Texas 27-22, Alabama 24-24, Penn State 19-32. Penn State has yet to post an "impressive victory against a good opponent" because they haven't played a good opponent. Alabama beat a top ten team on the road, and was leading by 31 at the half... Georgia scored a couple of garbage touchdowns in the last 4 minutes against Bama's backups. Penn State and the always classy JoePa threw at 80 yard TD to run up the score against Michigan yesterday. In the Big 12 or SEC, Penn State would be lucky to finish in the top half of the standings.




Since: Jan 9, 2007
Posted on: October 19, 2008 5:00 pm
 

BCS debuts today

By the way Oregon St isn't a cream puff ask USC who lost and ask Utah who needed a late score to beat them at home. 

I should clarify,  I'm not going to jump up and down and scream profanity if Bama is #2,  because I can see with the win over Ga how someone could put them there.

By the same token I could see how someone could look at the convincing manner PSU beat Oregon State, Illinois, and at Wisconsin and say you know what?  They must be pretty good.



Since: Jan 9, 2007
Posted on: October 19, 2008 4:54 pm
 

BCS debuts today

And I don't think anyone could argue that PSU's win over Michigan (an awful team) was a "great" win. They were thoroughly beaten in the first half by UM and then the talent gap showed in the second. Bama had to hold off a team who is a combined total of 19 points away from being undefeated this season. Houston Nutt's team is good, they just don't finish. After PSU at 3, its going to be very interesting.

In my opionion Texas deserves he #1 ranking hands down and they play the toughest schedule the rest of the way.  I don't see how anyone could possibly point to one half of football against Michigan and say it wasn't an impressive win.

If you're going to do that why don't you look at the 189 yards of total offense against Tulane.  That's right under 200 yards in 4 quarters against a team that gave up 44 points to the U.S. Military Academy (Army)

The toughest game on the scedule for Bama is LSU.  What have they done in 2008?  They have to go next week and play a 3-4 Tennessee team.  I guarantee you they won't beat them convincingly either.

I'm not saying Bama isn't good.  I'm just saying that looking at what the two teams have done I don't see how someone can say Bama deserves #2 more than PSU.


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