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National notes

Posted on: November 12, 2008 11:49 am
 

The BCS bowls right now ...

BCS title game: Alabama/Florida vs. Texas/Texas Tech/Oklahoma
 
Orange: ACC vs. Utah/Boise
 
Fiesta: Texas/Texas Tech/Oklahoma vs. Ohio State
 
Sugar: Alabama/Florida loser vs. Big East
 
Rose: Penn State vs. USC
 
 
Notes: The SEC, Big 12 and Big Ten get two teams ... The Fiesta Bowl gets the first and third picks in this scenario ... That leaves the Sugar with the Big East chumps, er, champs ... Orange definitely gets the non-BCS team because it picks last. No one is going to take Utah or Boise ahead of it because those schools just aren't new stories.
 
 
 Your official ACC tiebreaker scenarios direct from the ACC office.

First, 10 of 12 teams are still alive for the ACC title including Duke, in last place in the Coastal Division at 4-5 and 1-4. Other than that, take a couple of Advil and read on.

Atlantic Division


Florida State (7-2, 4-2) -- beat Boston College and Maryland to finish the season and hope someone beats Wake Forest. FSU currently loses a tiebreaker to the Deacons.

Wake Forest (6-3, 4-2) -- needs to beat N.C. State and Boston College and hope someone defeats Maryland.

Maryland (6-3, 3-2) -- controls its own destiny. Beat North Carolina, Florida State and Boston College and it is in.

Boston College (6-3, 2-3) -- controls its own destiny. Needs to win at Florida State, at Wake Forest and at home against Maryland to win the division.

Clemson (4-5, 2-4) -- Can't win the division.

N.C. State (3-6, 1-4) -- Can't win the division.

Coastal Division

North Carolina (7-2, 3-2) -- win out against Maryland, N.C. State and Duke and hope someone beats Virginia Tech.

Miami (6-3, 3-2) -- win out against Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech and N.C. State and hope North Carolina loses one more game.

Virginia Tech (6-3, 3-2) -- Controls its own destiny by beating Miami, Duke and Virginia.

Georgia Tech (7-3, 4-3) -- needs to beat Miami and have North Carolina lose twice, Virginia lose to Clemson and Virginia Tech lost two of its remaining three games (one to Virginia).

Virginia (5-5, 3-3) -- needs to beat Clemson and Virginia Tech and have someone beat both Miami and North Carolina

Duke (4-5, 1-4) -- beat Clemson, Virginia Tech and North Carolina to finish 4-4 in the division. Then, have Virginia lose to Clemson and beat Virginia Tech. Virginia Tech beat Miami and lose to Duke and Virginia. Georgia Tech lose to Miami and have Miami lose to Virginia Tech, beat Georgia Tech and lose to N.C. State. In addition, have North Carolina beat Maryland, but lose to N.C. State and Duke.

Got all that?

 

 All is not lost for Penn State.

 

There is a convoluted way that Joe Paterno can get to the national championship game.

1. Penn State wins out to go 11-1
2. Alabama loses to at least two of the three: Mississippi State, Auburn and Florida.
3. Texas Tech loses to Oklahoma and Baylor.
4. Oklahoma State defeats Oklahoma.
5. Missouri defeats Texas in the Big 12 title game.
6. USC loses once more to either Stanford, Notre Dame or UCLA.
7. Utah loses to San Diego State or BYU.

That would leave Florida No. 1 at 12-1. Bama, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Texas and USC would each have at least two losses. An undefeated Utah might not be a threat anyway but a loss to BYU ends the Utes' hope for making a miraculous run to the national championship game.
 
The only possible No. 2 would be Penn State. Hey, I told you it was convoluted.

 That got me thinking. How DOES Utah get to the national championship game?

 

1. Penn State loses to either Indiana or Michigan State.
2. through 4. above.
5. USC loses once more.
6. At that point, it probably wouldn't matter which team won the Big 12, Texas or Missouri. It would be close with Texas having one loss and Utah being undefeated.
7. All Utah would have to do is beat San Diego State and BYU to advance to the title game.

 No matter what the standings say, it's still all about Texas in the Big 12.

 

The university is in talks to launch its own TV network. Horns TV sounds a bit inappropriate in a cable universe populated with the likes of Playboy TV, but I'm sure the school will come up with something.

Texas has the nation's largest athletic budget, somewhere north of $120 million. It made non-qualifiers a deal breaker when the conference was formed 12 years ago. Nebraska and Kansas State complained loudly but went along. Look where those programs went shortly thereafter without the benefit of non-qualifiers.

Now Texas is bidding to take over the cable universe. Makes me wonder how Michael Crabtree ever got into the end zone a couple of weeks ago.

 Tim Tebow got away with it. John Parker Wilson didn't.

 

Wilson, Alabama's quarterback, said he regretted pantomiming a cell phone call to the LSU fans following a first-quarter touchdown at Death Valley. Unlike Tebow last year at LSU, Wilson was flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct. Tebow wasn't. Guess it depends on how innovativeness of your taunt.

"Whether it should have been a penalty or not, it doesn’t really matter," Wilson said. "It was just a bad decision, something I really shouldn’t have done."

The quarterback turned his cellie off on Thursday and didn't turn it on again until after the game on Saturday.

 They're talking contract extension for Randy Shannon at Miami. That's good news for a guy who started 2-3 after a 5-7 first season. The Canes are in contention for the ACC title (who isn't?) and should start 2009 in the top 25.

 

 Bo Pelini has waited until the week of the 11th game to break out the coveted "Blackshirts" for 11 of his best defenders.

 

Makes sense to reward the Huskers for their defense. They're 81st in total defense giving up 380 yards per game and 89th in scoring defense giving up 29.1 points.

 ESPN is in negotiations with the BCS to move all five BCS games to the cable side. I don't have a problem with all the games being on one network.  But this does allow the Worldwide Leader to increase its fees to cable companies which will be passed on to us, the consumer.

 

Comments

Since: Nov 11, 2007
Posted on: November 16, 2008 3:06 pm
 

National notes

Any chance that if Pitt & PSU win out, the Sugar is able to get both teams? Just curious, as that bowl game would be a sell-out, not to mention a throw-back.

I guess what I'm asking is that while a game like the Rose Bowl is traditionally Pac-10 v Big-10, can and will the Sugar have a shot at claiming the Big-10 champ too? This would put a SEC #2 into the Rose to play OSU/USC. I would really like to see USC in that position because it would make for a great game.




Since: Nov 14, 2008
Posted on: November 14, 2008 10:59 am
 

National champ predictor

Dennis, you would find this useful, monster spreadsheet predicting national championship game participants...users input Vegas lines for future games and a couple other assumptions and all the logic is built into it.  Each team has a tab explaining what has to happen for them to make it (doesn't include Utah, though...).

 




Since: Jan 26, 2008
Posted on: November 13, 2008 5:23 pm
 

National notes

Florida has to beat South Carolina and Florida State to get in. It's not guaranteed.



Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: November 13, 2008 10:31 am
 

National notes

No guts, no glory, Reverend.  I guess you PSU guys think it is safer to take the low road.  You forget, USC in Pasadena is plenty capable of embarrassing people...just ask Illinois and Michigan.




Since: Nov 4, 2008
Posted on: November 13, 2008 9:23 am
 

National notes

I'm a Penn State fan, but your sceniario made me laugh . . . Our loss saved us the embarassment of getting destroyed in the NCG by Florida. 



Since: Aug 20, 2006
Posted on: November 12, 2008 10:02 pm
 

National notes

Why in the world would the Sugar pass over a good, offensive minded non-BCS team like Utah or BSU for a 2 or 3 loss Big Least team?

Let's be honest.  Utah beat a Big East champ that I believe wasn't even in the top 25.  If they were, they barely were.

And Boise State beat a team with a WR playing QB...  Which showed, as he threw like 25 interceptions.  Not to mention that BSU needed 3 trick plays (which probably work 30-40% of the time) to all work that night.  Besides, if Colt McCoy doesn't get hurt, Texas wins the Big 12 and mops the floor with Boise State.




Since: Aug 20, 2006
Posted on: November 12, 2008 9:58 pm
 

National notes

Nice point. Although I'm not a fan of any Big East teams, they have performed well the last few years in the BCS.  Unlike some national powers, ahem, Oklahoma...



Since: Dec 18, 2006
Posted on: November 12, 2008 7:05 pm
 

Big East Chumps?

It's funny. I've heard Big East chumps a few times, and each time The BEast came away with the win. Nobody thought West Virginia had a chance against Georgia in the Sugar Bowl in Atlanta in 2006, or against Oklahoma in last season's Fiesta Bowl. All the so-called 'experts' picked those bowl games as the lock of the year, only to be proven wrong. Watch it happen again...



Since: Aug 22, 2008
Posted on: November 12, 2008 6:33 pm
 

National notes

along with some other ''natonal'&#
39;columnists, your clear disdain for the Pac 10 is sickening.  your disdain is especially true of Cal....a largely classy university with a very classy head coach.   you can have the  mercenary players and, in many cases, coaches in the SEC.     no thank you.



Since: Dec 19, 2007
Posted on: November 12, 2008 5:54 pm
 

National notes

Orange definitely gets the non-BCS team because it picks last. No one is going to take Utah or Boise ahead of it because those schools just aren't new stories. 
 
Dodd, you are lost, confused, and dazed. Why in the world would the Sugar pass over a good, offensive minded non-BCS team like Utah or BSU for a 2 or 3 loss Big Least team? I know Hawaii left a bad taste in their mouths but we all know that Utah/BSU are much higher quality teams than Hawaii was last year. They have proven that in past BcS bowls. And if it is a blowout, what would you rather see: an undefeated Utah/BSU or a 2 or 3 loss Pittsburg? The Orange is going to get stuck with the ACC and Big Least chumps. Oh well.


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