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Another look at Texas Tech-Oklahoma

Posted on: November 23, 2008 3:55 am

NORMAN, Okla. -- The absurdity of the whole thing is that Texas Tech is still closer to a Big 12 title than Oklahoma.

Still closer despite its second-worst loss of the Mike Leach era. Still closer despite being eviscerated in front of a national audience and record crowd at Owen Field.

Still closer despite clearly being the third-best team in the league it might win.

You want closure to Saturday, the Big 12, the national picture and the season after Oklahoma's mugging of the Dead Raiders? You got nothing.

You got nothing even after Oklahoma won by 44, voters will have to sit down and contemplate the moral and ethical dilemma of the day. Where do you slot Texas and Oklahoma? The former beat the latter but OU just dealt Texas Tech its worst loss in eight years.

Texas sports information weighed in during the second half sending text messages to some national writers reminding them that the Horns had beaten Oklahoma and Big 12 North champ Missouri. because it could all blow up in a week.  Florida State could beat Florida, Auburn could beat Alabama and Oklahoma State beat Oklahoma. That leaves the BCS backdoor open for everyone but the family dog -- Penn State, USC and, yes, Saturday's pretenders from West Texas.

So everyone calm down and take the Big 12's latest showdown for what it was worth: Oklahoma might have proven it is the league's best team but what does that have to do with anything right now?

Technically, the loss left the Big 12 South in a three-way tie that would be ultimately broken by the highest-ranked BCS team. Technically, Texas Tech would be part of that tie with Oklahoma and Texas.


If everyone wins out, the BCS most likely would stack the three combatants this way.

Texas Tech

That's another way of saying Tech beat Texas which beat Oklahoma which beat Texas.

Told you there was no closure.

All we know for sure after Saturday is that the powerhouse formerly known as Tech should be out of the national championship race but isn't. Normally, you don't play a top-five game on national television in late November and get sympathy votes for being blown out.

But this wacky three-way tiebreaker leaves Texas Tech very much alive to win the Big 12. Sooners of every level of sobriety celebrated late into the night here after Oklahoma played and won its first home game against a top-five team in eight years.

Ya-freakin'-hoo, Sooners. Now go beat Oklahoma State next week in the broiling cauldron that will be Stillwater. Big Game Bob (Stoops) might have earned back his nickname that had been on shaky ground lately, but check back after Okie State.

A Cowboys' win sends Texas Tech to the Big 12 title game against Missouri. Tech would get there by beating Baylor and winning a head-to-head tiebreaker over Texas (if it beats Texas A&M on Thanksgiving). However, that would still leave the Horns in contention for the national championship game.

Remember them? They were off this week, probably laughing at the silliness of it all. Mack Brown can directly influence the outcome of the national championship race because he has a coaches' poll vote. Bob Stoops declined the vote he had in 2007.

Twice before teams from the Big 12 -- Nebraska (2001), Oklahoma (2003) -- have played for a national championship without winning their conference.

The uncertainty extends all the way to the Heisman race which, according to some wags, was supposed to be decided Saturday night. Oklahoma's Sam Bradford clearly outplayed Texas Tech's Graham Harrell but OU just as effectively pummeled Tech with the running game.

Both DeMarco Murray and Chris Brown each surpassed 100 yards and combined for five rushing touchdowns.

Will the voters remember all that on Sunday? Texas is waiting to find out.

Category: NCAAF

Since: Oct 9, 2008
Posted on: November 23, 2008 9:16 pm

Another look at Texas Tech-Oklahoma

and i quote from a Nov 2nd blog

"it's hot in the hottub and I'm just not sure TT can handle the heat.........all of this will be a moot point when OU destroys, that's right, destroys the raiders...........OU was cheated earlier this yr by some of the worst officiating I've ever seen in the texas game........the sooners are a powerhouse.......big, strong, physical.......all the things TT is not.........yes they have a fast team, great QB, good WR's.......just not enough"

wow, it's like being able to see the future..........the Sooners ARE ridiculously good

with a little luck if the Crimson Tide can continue their impressive run and make the BCS championship game i certainly hope we play someone other than OU because they are playing strong ball right now on both sides


Since: Nov 9, 2008
Posted on: November 23, 2008 5:16 pm

Another look at Texas Tech-Oklahoma

"Of course the Gators are unstoppable. Who isn't when they hang 70 on the Citadel? BFD the Citadel. Oh wait, I forgot that they are a national power. Gimme a Break. Beat Bama and then talk."

A few things here.  First of all, no one is suggesting that hanging 70 on the Citidel makes Florida unstoppable.  What makes them unstoppable is hanging 51 on LSU (#4 at the time), 63 on Kentucky, 49 on Georgia (#8 at the time), 42 on Vanderbilt and 56 on South Carolina (#24 at the time with the #3 defense in the country).

As for "beating Bama, then talking"...don't worry.  We will and we will.

Since: Apr 13, 2008
Posted on: November 23, 2008 3:06 pm

Another look at Texas Tech-Oklahoma

What does his color have to do with his view of the fiasco that the BCS is making of college football. He has to right to express his opinion without regard to the color of his skin.

Since: Oct 27, 2008
Posted on: November 23, 2008 2:13 pm

Another look at Texas Tech-Oklahoma

Of course the Gators are unstoppable. Who isn't when they hang 70 on the Citadel? BFD the Citadel. Oh wait, I forgot that they are a national power. Gimme a Break. Beat Bama and then talk.

Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: November 23, 2008 1:38 pm

Another look at Texas Tech-Oklahoma

Or you could simply put Florida #2 behind Alabama, then put OU, TT, and TX at 3-5, Utah at 6, followed by Boise and Ball St, Penn St, and Oregon St, then USC at 7-11.  Finsh out the top 12 with either Georgia or Missouri.

(Sorry, but you can't put overhyped TX ahead of TT, the remaining undefeateds are underranked, and overrated USC should not be ahead of vastly underrated Oregon St. if they can't win the weak Pac10!  Oregon St.'s loss to Penn St. puts them behind PSU but a rematch in the Rose Bowl is not out of the question.  USC does not won the Pac10 if both Oregson St. and USC win out because of head-to-head.  I also think that if there was a Red River Rematch OU would kill TX right now.)

The beauty of that ranking is that the SEC and Big12 can either choose their own fates for screw it all up, it busts the BCS with the three undefeated non-Alabama teams, with an opportunity for them to get into the title game themselves with help, and it puts the Big10 and Pac10 in their proper places in the BCS--major also-rans.

Unfortunately the hype of a Penn St. @USC in the Rose Bowl is too good to pass up for the BCS, so Oregon St. will probably get shafted.  Nevermind that no bowl team should have a home bowl game unless they're playing for the national championship.

Of course, if one or more of these upsets happens, all bets are off:

this week:
Texas A&M def TX, Oklahoma St. def OU, Baylor def Tx Tech,
Notre Dame def USC, Oregon def Oregon St.,
Florida St. def Florida, Auburn def. Alabama;

next week:
UCLA def USC, Missouri wins the Big 12 title.

Not saying those are likely or not, just that there's a lot of football left this week and until the clock hits zeros, it's all on the field.

Since: Nov 9, 2008
Posted on: November 23, 2008 1:23 pm

Another look at Texas Tech-Oklahoma

You're kidding, right?  This is a joke?  Utah?

Since: Nov 9, 2008
Posted on: November 23, 2008 1:15 pm

Make up your mind, Dodd.

Two weeks ago you were telling us how awesome the BCS was and that playoffs would be "socialist" because Obama supported it.  Now you're complaining about how "absurd" the situation is.

Since: Mar 26, 2008
Posted on: November 23, 2008 1:09 pm

Another look at Texas Tech-Oklahoma

What do you mean "you people"

Since: Oct 5, 2006
Posted on: November 23, 2008 1:08 pm

Another look at Texas Tech-Oklahoma

I don't know where else to post an outcry about the poll on the home page as to who should be #2.  Perhaps they'd get a small number of votes by those on the website, but Utah deserves at least the consideration of being mentioned in this poll.  Unlike a good Hawaii team last year who deserved/earned their BCS slot, but frankly and clearly before the fact was not going win, Utah has the chops to beat Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas, Texas Tech, Florida (that's a game I'd like to see Urban Meyer against his former school), USC and everyone else you want to plug in there.  They are undefeated, qualified and ought to be playing for the National Championship.

Since: Sep 28, 2006
Posted on: November 23, 2008 12:41 pm

Doesnt really matter, does it?

The Gators are unstoppable on offense and maybe even better on defense. They are the real deal this season, albeit one slip up. (A 31-30 loss). Since that loss, they have averaged wins by 50 points a game. They are focused, have a great coach and a true leader in QB Tim Tebow. The gators will win their 2nd National Title in 3 years. The scary part of this is that if Tebow stays for his senior year, the defense will have all juniors and sophmores and will be even better than this years collection of freshman and sophmores. GO GATORS!

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