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What, you were surprised?

Posted on: June 25, 2009 12:27 pm
 
The BCS presidents rejected the Mountain West playoff plan on Wednesday. You shouldn't have been surprised because you read it here first last week.

By now, this is almost a non-story. The new BCS contract starts next year. No matter what you're reading or hearing from Capitol Hill, the BCS will go on unabated until at least the 2014 bowls. I'm not necessarily advocating that fact, I'm just letting you know. Kind of cutting to the chase. 

I thought it was more revealing that outgoing commissioner Tom Hansen said if there ever is a playoff it will have to start at 16 teams. Hansen's comments appear in a story I wrote that is going up on Thursday afternoon. 
Category: NCAAF
Tags: BCS
 
Comments

Since: Nov 29, 2007
Posted on: July 1, 2009 8:30 pm
 

What, you were surprised?

t6843

better than playing in a hurricane. besides - people will show up, even if it snows. i've been to sell out games covered in snow. would this be my favorite way to watch a game? no, but i'd do it for a great playoff game - just like fans do for snow covered games in the NFL.



Since: Nov 17, 2007
Posted on: June 29, 2009 7:46 pm
 

What, you were surprised?

The only thing that will happen with a playoff system is that NCAA football will take the last full step to becoming NFL farm teams.

The other divisions do not have the quantity and quality of bowls that D-iA has. They do not have the TV and 100000 seat stadiums. That line of argument does not stand up.

The biggest argument is, what is the point? No matter what is chosen, no matter how it is set up, there will always be some flaw or another.

My biggest argument is: National Championship? What value does it bring to NCAA football and ESPECIALLY TO THE KIDS.

It is a minor influence on recruiting. Yes, minor. It has the staying power of 1 or 2 years. The kids do not get bonuses (a lot of the coaches do).

Since this really is all about money, let me ask this: has anyone ever heard the term "saturate the market" and the repercussions of oversaturation?

All that aside, how much of the "My conference owns your conference" kind of crap do we want to put up with.

Get rid of the BCS.

Get rid of the polls.

Let's just have some good quality football games.

Good quality football games.

That is the point.




Since: Oct 8, 2008
Posted on: June 29, 2009 8:42 am
 

What, you were surprised?

by that same logic, a 9-7 NFL sholdn't be in the playoffs, and it happens. Say san diego Chargers last year.  a sub .500 team shouldn't be in the playoffs in the NBA and it happens. I can name 4 teams from the Eastern Conference every year... and if I remember correctly 21-14 Arizona shouldn't have been in the NCAA tournament last year, they were the last team in... and went to the sweet 16.  Your logic is flawed.  all of the rest of the college football world has a 16 team playoff.  the BCS sucks.  16 teams would be great!  The winner from every conference, and 5 at large bids.



Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: June 29, 2009 8:23 am
 

What, you were surprised?

No Buck---who, other than the lunatic fringe and player's parents, are going to travel to Pennsylvania, Ohio and Michigan in the middle of winter for a football game? What a great idea, let's ruin a great game by playing in a blizzard! Bowl losses getting to you?



Since: Oct 12, 2006
Posted on: June 28, 2009 6:08 pm
 

What, you were surprised?

I guess the Cardinals and Eagles weren't one of the 2-4 best in the NFL last season either ? The Cardinals were 9-7 and the Eagles the last to get into the playoffs, so that makes them the # 6 seed just in the NFC.

Regarding cfb, the Big 12 playing each other when they did, that was a matter of timing/scheduling, but catch these teams at a different point in time, they may beat UF handily or even Mississippi winds up winning it all. Not to mention Bama, UGA, USC &/or PSU on a given Saturday ?



Since: Apr 4, 2009
Posted on: June 28, 2009 1:23 pm
 

What, you were surprised?

I totally disagree with a 16 team playoff. This will take the fun away from the game first of all and I think their could be some downfall with this cause I think people will become less interested in the regular season. I like it the way it is.....    



Since: Jul 30, 2007
Posted on: June 28, 2009 12:02 pm
 

What, you were surprised?

If we must do a playoff,I agree with 4 teams
To me it is simple.Right now we take the top two and put them in the BCS championship game.Let's just take the top 4 and put them in a playoff.
The regular season would still matter and you would still have quality teams left to fill the 4 major bowls and the upper tier bowls.
I HATE the idea of using bowl games as playoff games.

ps. Please don't turn college football into college basketball



Since: Jul 30, 2007
Posted on: June 28, 2009 11:56 am
 

What, you were surprised?

amen



Since: Nov 17, 2007
Posted on: June 28, 2009 5:41 am
 

What, you were surprised?

Of course the Bowl Championship Series is about money. But before one rags the "evil" BCS conferences, one should do a little reading.

The BCS had to make concessions to get the conferences to join. For example, to get the Big Ten and Pac-10 to join, the BCS had to grant automatic bids. Why? Because for over 50 years (then, since 1947) the Big Ten and Pac-10 had an agreement to have the conference champions meet on New Year's Day in the Rose Bowl. The Rose Bowl, pre-BCS, was the highest paying and more prestigious of all the bowls.

The so-called BCS National Championship game has been played for the last 3 years. Prior to the 2006 season, there was no such game. The SEC, ACC, Big 12, Big East, Big Ten, and Pac-10 conference champions plus independent Notre Dame played in 4 bowls, Rose, Sugar, Fiesta, and Orange.

It is important to remember that the so-called BCS National Championship game is NOT recognized by the NCAA as a collegiate championship.

Prior to the BCS was the Bowl Alliance (95-97) that included the SEC, ACC, Big East, Big 12, and the Southwest (1995 only) conference champions plus Notre Dame playing in the Sugar, Fiesta, and Orange bowls. 2 at-large teams were allowed to compete.

Prior to the Bowl Alliance was the Bowl Coalition (92-94) that included the SEC, ACC, Big East, Big 8, and Southwest conference champions plus Notre Dame playing in the Sugar, Fiesta, Orange, Cotton, Gator, and Sun bowls. 5 at-large teams were allowed to compete.

Prior to 1992, there were just the bowl games. The bowl games were rewards to teams that had good seasons and offered players one last opportunity to showcase their skills to the NFL. There were the major bowls (Rose, Sugar, Cotton, and Orange) and mid and minor bowls.

Pre-BCS:
Rose: tied-in with the Big Ten and Pac-10
Orange: at various times tied-in with the Big 12, ACC, and Big East
Sugar: tied-in with the SEC
Cotton: tied-in with the now defunct Southwest Conference
Sun: tied-in with now defunct Border Conference
Fiesta: no conference tie-ins, originally associated with the Western Athletic Conference
Gator: loosely tied-in with the SEC

Of course it is about money. The BCS is nothing more than a business arrangement that allows better negotiating terms for TV revenues, etc. No one is going to get the conferences to give up their automatic bids, especially the conferences that had prior business agreements that spanned decades.

My vote is to scrap the BCS and go back to the old bowl system. The BCS and this clammoring for a playoff system is only pushing college football further down the road to being NFL farm teams. We really should go back to the true student-athlete approach.




Since: Nov 29, 2007
Posted on: June 27, 2009 5:28 pm
 

What, you were surprised?

The BCS is a money hungry joke. They will lose money if they agree to a playoff system because eventually we will end up with a Boise State/Utah final (or something similar). Boise State/Utah would bring about 50,000 fans....and that's a stretch.

Meanwhile, a Florida/USC game is going to sell out whatever stadium it's played in.

What I dont understand is if the BCS is looking to make as much money as it can, and it obviously is, why not play big bowl games in the biggest stadiums? Why is there not a single bowl game in Michigan's Big House, Penn State's Stadium or Ohio State's Horseshoe? If the national championship was in Columbus, it would sell out for sure, with at least 10-20,000 more tickets.

The only thing I can think of is schools like Florida, LSU, Texas and Oklahoma couldn't handle playing "in the cold, possible snow" which is bound to happen at a northern school in january.

We wouldn't want to lose any of that famed "SEC speed" because of snow, now would we? Heaven forbid a Big 12 team have to actually run the ball sometime and play defense.

You can also see those Gators cry when they don't get to play a national championship game within their own state.


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