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Picking the Big 12

Posted on: June 29, 2009 3:01 pm
Edited on: June 30, 2009 12:09 pm

The Big 12 South Division race, the Big 12 title game, the Heisman race and the national championship hinged on the conference's three-way tiebreaker. We found out about the 11-year-old rule when Texas, Oklahoma and Texas Tech each tied at 7-1 in the South Division.

Oklahoma "won" the tiebreaker because it finished the regular season as the highest-ranked team in the division  -- by .0128 of a point in the BCS standings. Instead of reliving the Austin angst, let's just say that one Longhorn suggested that if the tiebreaker rule wasn't changed in the offseason his school ought to pull out of the Big 12.

What's changed? Not much. The rule wasn't changed and Texas is still in the league. At the spring meetings, the Big 12 ADs accepted the coaches' vote that the tiebreaker remain the same. Why?

 One theory is that Texas probably doesn't get much sympathy from the other coaches because ... it's Texas. The school is perceived to have the best of everything so it didn't get much sympathy from schools that don't. Yeah, jealousy sucks.

 There is nothing to be gained for schools like Missouri, Iowa State, Colorado, Baylor, etc., so why change? Hey, the league got two teams in the BCS. To the other schools it doesn't matter who plays in those games as long as the money keeps rolling in.

 The tiebreaker makes sense. Why wouldn't you want your highest rated BCS team to win the tiebreaker? There was some feeling that the SEC tiebreaker is fairer.

In a three-way tie, the SEC drops the lowest-ranked team and decides things head-to-head. But since you're chasing a BCS title, the SEC tiebreaker potentially keeps the highest-ranked team out of a title shot.

The tiebreaker would have been a footnote on the national scene had not Texas and Oklahoma been involved. The rivalry was bitter enough without having to explain why the Horns lost out when they beat the Sooners on the field. Yeah, Oklahoma's fortune might cause a bit of consternation in Austin.

"They got a huge break," Texas' Colt McCoy said.

Like I said, nothing has changed. Texas and OU still hate each other. There is a good chance we could have another tiebreaker train wreck at the end of this season. Only the teams will change.

Texas, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State could all start the season in the top 10. The Red River Shootout on Oct. 17 shapes up as one of the most intense in the history of the rivalry. Just for controversy's sake let's assume the Horns win in Dallas, they still have to play in Stillwater on Halloween. If the Cowboys win they could win out until a Nov. 28 date in Norman. If the Sooners win that one, we're looking at another three-way 7-1 finish.

Who wins it in the BCS tiebreaker? In that scenario, you'd have to like Oklahoma again. The Texas loss would be six weeks old by then and beating Oklahoma State impressively would be the emphatic final statement for the computers the pollsters. That same thing happened last year when OU blew out Texas Tech.

Closer to the field, for the second consecutive year the Large Dozen remains the conference of quarterbacks. It sports a Heisman winner (Sam Bradford), a runner-up (Colt McCoy) and well as 2009 Heisman candidate Todd Reesing of Kansas. You can add Oklahoma State's Zac Robinson, Baylor's Robert Griffin and Texas Tech quarterback du jour Taylor Potts as difference makers.

Just giving you a fair warning, Texas fans. Grow your hair out now. You might be pulling it out in December.

Picking the Big 12 ...

North Division

1. Kansas -- If this were Miami, Dezmon Briscoe, Kerry Meier and Reesing would be on the cover of every preseason mag in the country. Meier is the leading returning receiver in catches per game (10.8). Briscoe is second in receiving yards per game (108.2). Reesing already has led the Jayhawks to an Orange Bowl and is in line to become the school's best quarterback ever. Mark Mangino already has proven he can coach. If a new set of starting linebackers can tackle and if KU can beat either Oklahoma, Texas or Texas Tech (he is a combined 0-9 against the three) this could be a special season. The Jayhawks get the slight edge in the North because the Nebraska game is at home.

2. Nebraska -- Bo Pelini is slowly building Huskerville back to its usual standards. Slowly is the key word because defense is Pelini's thing and the D showed astounding lapses last year. Slowly, because Nebraska has not had a first-team All-American on the defensive line in 12 years. Tackle Ndamukong Suh could break the streak. Some draft boards already have him in the top five. There is little room for error where Pelini is a turned ankle away from having real problems at quarterback. Zac Lee is the guy after Patrick Witt, who was being counted on, left before the spring. A lot of folks think Nebraska has the advantage in the North because of its schedule. I see road trips to Missouri, Baylor, Kansas and Colorado, plus a home game against Oklahoma. Please tell me how that is favorable?

3. Missouri -- The Tigers will take a dip after back-to-back Big 12 North titles. Missouri knows it. The fans know it. The league knows it. The key is trying to make an 8-4 season seem like a success. Six-foot-five Blaine Gabbert takes over for Chase Daniel, only the greatest qb in Missouri history. He would be wise to spread the ball out to 1,000-yard rusher Derrick Washington and receivers Danario Alexander and Jared Perry. The Tigers will score, just not as often. If the defense is shored up at all this team could be on the fringes of contending in the North. At times, the secondary looked like a fire drill. Linebacker All-American linebacker candidate Sean Weatherspoon passed up the draft and will chase the school's career tackles record as a senior.

4. Colorado -- Has Hawk Love turned into Hawk Doubt? Entering his fourth season in Boulder, Dan Hawkins has won only 13 games. The pressure is on to produce (hint: Big 12 North contention and a bowl game). Hawkins isn't backing down, saying this at the senior banquet: "Ten wins, no excuses." The quarterback situation is unsettled with son Cody Hawkins and Tyler Hansen maybe sharing the job again. Freshman tailback sensation Darrell Scott was upstaged by fellow freshman Rodney Stewart who led the team in rushing. Here's the scary thing: In a league with unrelenting offenses, CU has lost six of its top 10 tacklers.

5. Kansas State -- This isn't the old Big Eight for Bill Snyder. Back in 1989, he was taking over Kansas State from a zero position. This time he is chasing his own legacy. Not to diminish what Snyder accomplished, but back in the early 1990s, Missouri and Kansas were jokes and Oklahoma was sliding. There was no Texas to play two out of every four years. The Big 12 has more depth and strength than the Big Eight as Snyder tries for Miracle In Manhattan II. Snyder got K-State from dregs to the brink of a national championship game in nine years. Will the 69-year-old have that much time this time around?

6. Iowa State -- Iowa State swapped coaches with Auburn. Gene Chizik went. Paul Rhoads came. Rhoads, from nearby Ankeny, seems like he wants to stay awhile. He'll be looking up at the rest of the Big 12 North for a while. Ripping Wally Burham from South Florida to be his defensive coordinator was a huge get for Rhoads. The offense will have a chance with dual-threat Austen Arnaud at quarterback

South Division

1. Texas -- Mack Brown smiled when I told I had his pregame speech ready for the OU game. "We beat the Sooners last year, boys. Now let's go out and get some revenge!" Yeah, it's about that and a lot of things for Brown and the Horns. Except for perhaps some suspect running backs, Texas is loaded. Brown has his best team since the 2005 national championship crew. Hybrid defensive end/linebacker Sergio Kindle should be this season's Brian Orakpo. McCoy is driven not only by the tiebreaker but also his second-place finish in the Heisman. Still, it all boils down to Oct. 17 in Dallas.

2. Oklahoma -- Sam Bradford won the Heisman, became the first quarterback to win back-to-back Big 12 titles and got the Sooners to the national championship game. What is there left to accomplish? Plenty for Bradford who listened to family and advisors and put off the NFL. His body can fill out a bit and it doesn't look like there will be a Matthew Stafford to compete with in the draft this year. Oklahoma's questions are at offensive line and receiver. If this were anywhere else but the Big 12 South, the Sooners would be prohibitive favorites to repeat. With a break here or there, they still might end back up in the national championship game.

3. Oklahoma State -- With apologies to Texas and Oklahoma, this could be the best offense in the Big 12, if not the country. Returning are a 1,500-yard rusher (Kendall Hunter), an All-American receiver (Dez Bryant), and a 65 percent passer with 25 touchdowns (Robinson). The problem remains defense. New defensive coordinator Bill Young is the Cadillac of his profession. Okie State will be better just because of his presence. Perrish Cox is developing into an NFL talent at corner and is one of the nation's best returners.

4. Texas Tech -- The Red Raiders slip back to the 8-4 level this season. You know the drill: Potts will throw for eight million yards. There will be a 1,000-yard receiver or two. Mike Leach will be his usual quote-machine self. However, last season was a once-in-10-year event. There is payback waiting at Texas, at Oklahoma State and at Nebraska.

5. Baylor -- Does any Big 12 school have more upside? Joe Pawelek is an All-Big 12 linebacker. Center J.D. Walton anchors the offensive line now that Jason Smith is gone. But let's be honest, the moment quarterback Robert Griffin followed coach Art Briles to Baylor (from his commitment to Houston), things took off. A sprinter with Olympic aspirations, Griffin gave up the Big 12 track season to concentrate on what should be his breakout season in Waco. If there is a one-man team in the league, this is it. Griffin also was the team's No. 2 rusher. With more weight and more knowledge, Griffin should become the most elusive dual-threat in the Big 12 since Vince Young. At stake is a 14-year bowl drought. That ties for the longest active streak among BCS schools.

6. Texas A&M -- One former Big Eight coach said it during the offseason: This is A&M. It should be able to go over to the Houston high schools and scrounge up a couple of defensive linemen. In Mike Sherman's second season, d-line is a good place to start. The one-time Wrecking Crew was Charmin soft as one of the worst defensive units in the country. After the non-conference games, the Aggies gave up less than 35 once. Once! Nineteen players had surgery in the offseason. The Aggies better get fat early. The season ends with Oklahoma, Baylor and Texas.


Since: Dec 15, 2008
Posted on: July 4, 2009 4:23 pm

Picking the Big 12 comes the Big Red!!!

Since: Mar 7, 2007
Posted on: July 4, 2009 3:38 pm

Picking the Big 12

skibum2007, you didn't pay attention to your question.  You didn't ask me about football, you asked about Championships.  I'm a humorous fellow and you set yourself up. You clearly take yourself very serious :-)

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: July 4, 2009 12:00 pm

Changing Big 12 Divisions to East/West

From the earlier posts suggesting the need to change the Big 12 to East/West Divisions; well, you would only have one swap - Get your ruler out boys - Colorado goes to the West with the rest of the South and Oklahoma State goes to the East with the rest of the North.   Excellent!   I'd love that option right now as then OSU would legitamently have a better than average shot at the Big 12 Championship and would could win by playing on a neutral field rather than the curse of either having to play In Austin or In Norman which OSU has to go Undefeated in Conference to go to the Big 12 Conf Championship -

This is a window of opportunity for OSU but afraid it won't last and unfortunately as always the case - we're like Michigan State and Oregon; great teams occasionally but never can get over the hump for the conference championship because there is alway a better team or two in the division.

Since: Sep 8, 2007
Posted on: July 4, 2009 1:05 am

Picking the Big 12

Charlie42s, like I said above, if you want to talk about track and field, baseball, basketweaving, volleyball, and softball championships go right ahead if it truly makes you feel better. Just remember you were reciting FOOTBALL head-to-head sta
ts until you conveniently forgot to compare the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS between OU and Texas. I am sure if the numbers had been in Texas' favor you would have mentioned them, but of course since they are not in your favor you conveniently left them out. I think you have a nice government job waiting in the Obama white house with that kind of selective math. Bring up the facts that makes Texas' football program look better, and leave out the stats you get run-ruled in....   

I would have really liked to celebrate Texas winning the National title in football, but that only happens, at best, every 40 years. 



Since: May 9, 2009
Posted on: July 3, 2009 5:45 pm

Picking the Big 12

Yeah Gadawgs you have a low IQ sorry gotta agree with Spinkiller. Your reference to Georgia playing OSU last year was halarious. Georgia played OSU in 07' smart guy and it was not a blowout by any means not to mention it was in Athens and this coming from a supposed Georgia fan lol. You obviously are not a real Georgia fan or you would know who they played last year or in 07' for that matter. Yes OSU will beat Georgia this year because it is a fact. Also like spinkiller said stafford and moreno are not "Heisman Hopefuls" as you put it because they are not on the team anymore, you have to be on the team to be a "Heisman Hopeful" man I swear do we have to start talking like a baby to ya?

Since: May 9, 2009
Posted on: July 3, 2009 5:35 pm

Picking the Big 12

Hey dom in case you didn't know what ku did in 07' was a fluke. One good year does not make a program and by the way the defensive coordinator that had you guys in the top 15 in defense that year is now at Oklahoma State and your defensive ranking is the reason KU was good that year not your offense.I disagree with your comment about KU winning the north and even if that did happen they would get slaughtered by whoever wins the south everyone knows that. I'm picking Nebraska to win the north anyway. Once reesing and briscoe leave it will be back down to the bottom of the north for you guys. I think OSU is going to give Texas a run for their money this year and i'm thinking Texas will finish 3rd in the south this year but this is my opinion but others are also predicting this.

Since: Mar 7, 2007
Posted on: July 3, 2009 4:18 pm

Picking the Big 12

Skibum2007 wrote:Charlie, how many NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS does the University of Texas have since inception ?

47, 39 were NCAA National Championships.  OU has 18 NCAA National Championships.
It must really hurt to realize OU(with many fine football accomplishments) has such a losing record versus UT.

You see, The University of Texas at Austin is more than just football. Texas fans take satisfaction in their rivals victories. I would have really liked to celebrate OU winning the BCS, but they choked. 
Texas A&M swept this year's NCAA Track and Field National Championships.  Bravo! I was surprised and pleased.

Since: Nov 3, 2008
Posted on: July 3, 2009 1:25 am

Picking the Big 12

FearWare94, great point. It's also about conference Championships. Hey Charlie, got 6? Got 42? Mack Brown is tied with Bill Snyder and R.C. Slocum for the number of BigXII Conference Championships, 1. Now, if you add those three coaches together, that would equal exactly half of Bob Stoops' conference titles.

Since: Sep 8, 2007
Posted on: July 3, 2009 1:25 am

Picking the Big 12

Charlie, how many NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS does the University of Texas have since inception? Then compare that to how many NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS Oklahoma has won since 1970.  Not a pretty stat for Texas fans. 

An even uglier stat for Texas is comparing both OU and Texas in NATIONAL CHAMPSIONSHIPS since inception....  Texas gets beaten like a burnt-orange stepchild in that comparison. 

So go ahead and talk about Texas baseball in a football thread if it makes you feel better. 



Since: Sep 7, 2007
Posted on: July 3, 2009 12:10 am

Picking the Big 12

Charlie...Did it ever occur to you the Texas is 5 times the size of Oklahoma? And if OU recruits well in Texas, is that OU's fault? All the surrounding states recruit out of Texas, that's like ragging on the Dallas Cowboys because they don't have many players from Dallas on their team.

You missed the most important statistic....National Championships.

....Got Seven?

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