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Picking the Big 12

Posted on: June 29, 2009 3:01 pm
Edited on: June 30, 2009 12:09 pm

The Big 12 South Division race, the Big 12 title game, the Heisman race and the national championship hinged on the conference's three-way tiebreaker. We found out about the 11-year-old rule when Texas, Oklahoma and Texas Tech each tied at 7-1 in the South Division.

Oklahoma "won" the tiebreaker because it finished the regular season as the highest-ranked team in the division  -- by .0128 of a point in the BCS standings. Instead of reliving the Austin angst, let's just say that one Longhorn suggested that if the tiebreaker rule wasn't changed in the offseason his school ought to pull out of the Big 12.

What's changed? Not much. The rule wasn't changed and Texas is still in the league. At the spring meetings, the Big 12 ADs accepted the coaches' vote that the tiebreaker remain the same. Why?

 One theory is that Texas probably doesn't get much sympathy from the other coaches because ... it's Texas. The school is perceived to have the best of everything so it didn't get much sympathy from schools that don't. Yeah, jealousy sucks.

 There is nothing to be gained for schools like Missouri, Iowa State, Colorado, Baylor, etc., so why change? Hey, the league got two teams in the BCS. To the other schools it doesn't matter who plays in those games as long as the money keeps rolling in.

 The tiebreaker makes sense. Why wouldn't you want your highest rated BCS team to win the tiebreaker? There was some feeling that the SEC tiebreaker is fairer.

In a three-way tie, the SEC drops the lowest-ranked team and decides things head-to-head. But since you're chasing a BCS title, the SEC tiebreaker potentially keeps the highest-ranked team out of a title shot.

The tiebreaker would have been a footnote on the national scene had not Texas and Oklahoma been involved. The rivalry was bitter enough without having to explain why the Horns lost out when they beat the Sooners on the field. Yeah, Oklahoma's fortune might cause a bit of consternation in Austin.

"They got a huge break," Texas' Colt McCoy said.

Like I said, nothing has changed. Texas and OU still hate each other. There is a good chance we could have another tiebreaker train wreck at the end of this season. Only the teams will change.

Texas, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State could all start the season in the top 10. The Red River Shootout on Oct. 17 shapes up as one of the most intense in the history of the rivalry. Just for controversy's sake let's assume the Horns win in Dallas, they still have to play in Stillwater on Halloween. If the Cowboys win they could win out until a Nov. 28 date in Norman. If the Sooners win that one, we're looking at another three-way 7-1 finish.

Who wins it in the BCS tiebreaker? In that scenario, you'd have to like Oklahoma again. The Texas loss would be six weeks old by then and beating Oklahoma State impressively would be the emphatic final statement for the computers the pollsters. That same thing happened last year when OU blew out Texas Tech.

Closer to the field, for the second consecutive year the Large Dozen remains the conference of quarterbacks. It sports a Heisman winner (Sam Bradford), a runner-up (Colt McCoy) and well as 2009 Heisman candidate Todd Reesing of Kansas. You can add Oklahoma State's Zac Robinson, Baylor's Robert Griffin and Texas Tech quarterback du jour Taylor Potts as difference makers.

Just giving you a fair warning, Texas fans. Grow your hair out now. You might be pulling it out in December.

Picking the Big 12 ...

North Division

1. Kansas -- If this were Miami, Dezmon Briscoe, Kerry Meier and Reesing would be on the cover of every preseason mag in the country. Meier is the leading returning receiver in catches per game (10.8). Briscoe is second in receiving yards per game (108.2). Reesing already has led the Jayhawks to an Orange Bowl and is in line to become the school's best quarterback ever. Mark Mangino already has proven he can coach. If a new set of starting linebackers can tackle and if KU can beat either Oklahoma, Texas or Texas Tech (he is a combined 0-9 against the three) this could be a special season. The Jayhawks get the slight edge in the North because the Nebraska game is at home.

2. Nebraska -- Bo Pelini is slowly building Huskerville back to its usual standards. Slowly is the key word because defense is Pelini's thing and the D showed astounding lapses last year. Slowly, because Nebraska has not had a first-team All-American on the defensive line in 12 years. Tackle Ndamukong Suh could break the streak. Some draft boards already have him in the top five. There is little room for error where Pelini is a turned ankle away from having real problems at quarterback. Zac Lee is the guy after Patrick Witt, who was being counted on, left before the spring. A lot of folks think Nebraska has the advantage in the North because of its schedule. I see road trips to Missouri, Baylor, Kansas and Colorado, plus a home game against Oklahoma. Please tell me how that is favorable?

3. Missouri -- The Tigers will take a dip after back-to-back Big 12 North titles. Missouri knows it. The fans know it. The league knows it. The key is trying to make an 8-4 season seem like a success. Six-foot-five Blaine Gabbert takes over for Chase Daniel, only the greatest qb in Missouri history. He would be wise to spread the ball out to 1,000-yard rusher Derrick Washington and receivers Danario Alexander and Jared Perry. The Tigers will score, just not as often. If the defense is shored up at all this team could be on the fringes of contending in the North. At times, the secondary looked like a fire drill. Linebacker All-American linebacker candidate Sean Weatherspoon passed up the draft and will chase the school's career tackles record as a senior.

4. Colorado -- Has Hawk Love turned into Hawk Doubt? Entering his fourth season in Boulder, Dan Hawkins has won only 13 games. The pressure is on to produce (hint: Big 12 North contention and a bowl game). Hawkins isn't backing down, saying this at the senior banquet: "Ten wins, no excuses." The quarterback situation is unsettled with son Cody Hawkins and Tyler Hansen maybe sharing the job again. Freshman tailback sensation Darrell Scott was upstaged by fellow freshman Rodney Stewart who led the team in rushing. Here's the scary thing: In a league with unrelenting offenses, CU has lost six of its top 10 tacklers.

5. Kansas State -- This isn't the old Big Eight for Bill Snyder. Back in 1989, he was taking over Kansas State from a zero position. This time he is chasing his own legacy. Not to diminish what Snyder accomplished, but back in the early 1990s, Missouri and Kansas were jokes and Oklahoma was sliding. There was no Texas to play two out of every four years. The Big 12 has more depth and strength than the Big Eight as Snyder tries for Miracle In Manhattan II. Snyder got K-State from dregs to the brink of a national championship game in nine years. Will the 69-year-old have that much time this time around?

6. Iowa State -- Iowa State swapped coaches with Auburn. Gene Chizik went. Paul Rhoads came. Rhoads, from nearby Ankeny, seems like he wants to stay awhile. He'll be looking up at the rest of the Big 12 North for a while. Ripping Wally Burham from South Florida to be his defensive coordinator was a huge get for Rhoads. The offense will have a chance with dual-threat Austen Arnaud at quarterback

South Division

1. Texas -- Mack Brown smiled when I told I had his pregame speech ready for the OU game. "We beat the Sooners last year, boys. Now let's go out and get some revenge!" Yeah, it's about that and a lot of things for Brown and the Horns. Except for perhaps some suspect running backs, Texas is loaded. Brown has his best team since the 2005 national championship crew. Hybrid defensive end/linebacker Sergio Kindle should be this season's Brian Orakpo. McCoy is driven not only by the tiebreaker but also his second-place finish in the Heisman. Still, it all boils down to Oct. 17 in Dallas.

2. Oklahoma -- Sam Bradford won the Heisman, became the first quarterback to win back-to-back Big 12 titles and got the Sooners to the national championship game. What is there left to accomplish? Plenty for Bradford who listened to family and advisors and put off the NFL. His body can fill out a bit and it doesn't look like there will be a Matthew Stafford to compete with in the draft this year. Oklahoma's questions are at offensive line and receiver. If this were anywhere else but the Big 12 South, the Sooners would be prohibitive favorites to repeat. With a break here or there, they still might end back up in the national championship game.

3. Oklahoma State -- With apologies to Texas and Oklahoma, this could be the best offense in the Big 12, if not the country. Returning are a 1,500-yard rusher (Kendall Hunter), an All-American receiver (Dez Bryant), and a 65 percent passer with 25 touchdowns (Robinson). The problem remains defense. New defensive coordinator Bill Young is the Cadillac of his profession. Okie State will be better just because of his presence. Perrish Cox is developing into an NFL talent at corner and is one of the nation's best returners.

4. Texas Tech -- The Red Raiders slip back to the 8-4 level this season. You know the drill: Potts will throw for eight million yards. There will be a 1,000-yard receiver or two. Mike Leach will be his usual quote-machine self. However, last season was a once-in-10-year event. There is payback waiting at Texas, at Oklahoma State and at Nebraska.

5. Baylor -- Does any Big 12 school have more upside? Joe Pawelek is an All-Big 12 linebacker. Center J.D. Walton anchors the offensive line now that Jason Smith is gone. But let's be honest, the moment quarterback Robert Griffin followed coach Art Briles to Baylor (from his commitment to Houston), things took off. A sprinter with Olympic aspirations, Griffin gave up the Big 12 track season to concentrate on what should be his breakout season in Waco. If there is a one-man team in the league, this is it. Griffin also was the team's No. 2 rusher. With more weight and more knowledge, Griffin should become the most elusive dual-threat in the Big 12 since Vince Young. At stake is a 14-year bowl drought. That ties for the longest active streak among BCS schools.

6. Texas A&M -- One former Big Eight coach said it during the offseason: This is A&M. It should be able to go over to the Houston high schools and scrounge up a couple of defensive linemen. In Mike Sherman's second season, d-line is a good place to start. The one-time Wrecking Crew was Charmin soft as one of the worst defensive units in the country. After the non-conference games, the Aggies gave up less than 35 once. Once! Nineteen players had surgery in the offseason. The Aggies better get fat early. The season ends with Oklahoma, Baylor and Texas.


Since: Feb 18, 2008
Posted on: July 2, 2009 12:28 am

Picking the Big 12

That same team beat the crap out of Texas Tech that beat Texas and racked up 585 yards on Bevo. Ole Miss with Snead did better by far than Texas with Coltless Mc Coy under the same rush! They made Tech look like Texas A&M. Florida beat Oklahoma with a decoy Harvin at 70 percent.  If Nelson who was the captain on defense and called the defensive plays Colt could not handle, did not go down Texas would have never won. The game changed when they lost their all american controlling the middle.  Bradford threw for 5 touchdowns in a losing cause. No defenses. Beating Ohio State by three was laugher when LSU and Florida dominated their same slow players. 

You will have the same Andre Ware numbers from all your QB's again this year. They just stink when they play defenses and their scoring is cut in half. You may get a chance to see Texas get Florida with 18 of 22  starting players returning. We know you will be rested with no one to play or challenge you in the Big12 Championship. 

The SEC will look forward to a team who has a leading rusher at QB. I hope his career does not end  because he has to run. We cannot wait no matter who it is from the SEC. We beat you in football and just recently in baseball. Come get some again!  

Every year Mac Brown and Stoops dominate the easy non conference teams to get to the Red River "neutral game site". Both usually are undefeated going in and ranked in the top five the last ten years. Both teams have winning records against every team in their conference overall. Some teams like Texas Tech last year wonfor the first time in 11 years. You cannot have an easier time and still call an 0-5 BCS Oklahoma you biggest game for the past five years! Everyone beats them in big games. Maybe you can play the Pac One team again and win a national title. They play no one either and it can be another high scoring 45 to 42 game. Kind of the scoring the Big12 and USC know. Just outscore the other guy and last man with the ball wins because no one can stop the other. Thank God for Vince, the Bush pitch and Pete's 4th down gift at midfield. Great game between like teams and conferences. 

I think Oklahoma State will beat Texas and Oklahoma this year. I hope they have another three way tie and spoiled Texas has to fly the planes and the banners again. We can listen to Mac Cry Baby Brown politic again. The country loved the whinning!   

Go SEC!!! We cannot wait for any Big12 overanked 100th rated defensive team to want to lose another BCS game.  

Since: Nov 3, 2008
Posted on: July 2, 2009 12:19 am

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between the University of Texas Longhorns and the University of Texas at Norman OK Sooners.I understand your guised hostility "flex".  Let's take Mack Brown for starters.  You see Mack Brown was nothing more than Barry Switzer's assistant at the University of Oklahoma. So, of course Texas wanted him. Let's take the best coach in Texas' history. Darrell K. Royal I believe it was. I think Texas even named their stadium after the Oklahoma Native and Oklahoma Sooner Football Player.
By the way, let me know how your bogus "player bio" search is going on the OU Sooners. Let's break down OU's best players and starters and see if the state of Texas represents 80%:

1. **Sam Bradford (Putnum City. Ok)

2. **Gerald McCoy (Oklahoma City, Ok)

3. **DeMarco Murray (Las Vegas, Nevada)

4. **Chris Brown: (Louisiana)

5. Frank Alexander (Baton Rouge, Louisiana)

6. **Ryan Broyles (Norman, Ok)

7. **Austin Box (Enid, Ok)

8.** Ryan Reynolds (Las Vegas, Nevada)

9. **Brandon Caleb (Richmand, Virginia)

10. **Quentin Carter (Las Vegas, Nevada)

11. Matt Clapp (Phoenix, Arizona)

12. **Jermaine Gresham (Ardmore, Ok)

13. **Dominique Franks (Tulsa, Ok)

14. Cameron Kenney (Dacula, Georgia)

15. **Mossis Madu (Norman, Ok)

16. Jameel Owens (Muskogee, Ok)

17. **Brian Simmons (Raleigh, North Carolina)

18. **Brody Eldridge (La Cygne, Kansas)

19. Tavaris Jeffries (Memphis, Tennessee)

20. Jimmy Stevens-Kicker (Oklahoma City, Ok)

21. Tress Way-Punter (Tulsa, Ok)

22. Carter Whitson (Shawnee, Ok)

** Represents Best Player

Sorry to burst your bubble there Texan.  Apparently you made a rather Large error in opening your mouth regarding the Sooners football team before you actually knew anything about the topic. 

Since: Nov 10, 2008
Posted on: July 2, 2009 12:01 am

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I stand corrected on the percentage since I checked the facts.  Only 72% of the roster is from out of state and 46% of the roster is from Texas.  28% of the roster is from Oklahoma high schools, not much of a figure, but a larger figure than I thought.

What does this mean?  I guess it means that old Stoops is a good recruiter.  He must have learned that from Bill Snyder.

Since: Nov 10, 2008
Posted on: July 1, 2009 11:45 pm

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Dom, this thread is about football not basketball.  I don't know about you #3 south pick either.

Now to my OU brethren I am reading so much trash talk from.  No one on this thread, except a few gator fans, have said that OU wasn't a great team.  UT fans know it, shoot even UT players and coaches know it because the 80% of the players all come from the same place, Texas high schools.  I like the Longhorns chances in October and I really am looking forward to the matchup between the University of Texas Longhorns and the University of Texas at Norman OK Sooners.  And before you all go crazy and remind me that Bradford is from Oklahoma, yes he is and so is a 3rd string receiver along with a walk on 4th string punter.  You guys always say check your facts, I am, I'm going to the website and check the roster and see what the percentage is just out of curiosity.

Since: Jun 24, 2009
Posted on: July 1, 2009 10:44 pm

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Since: Dec 4, 2007
Posted on: July 1, 2009 10:36 pm

Picking the Big 12

Reesing is a tough SOB no doubt see the last two games of the '07 season.  Turf in helmet v MU and VaTech nearly killing him early in the Orange.  But he rose from the ashes and toasted them.  But Heisman?  Sorry the Heisman voters don't follow hoops programs. 

As for the North it's wide open with ku as the prohibitive favorite.  As much as that pains me to say, lets face facts.  They have the only proven QB.  And Briscoe and Meir are more than quality targets.  Sharp's a decent compliment.  Oline and LB are a question.  Nebraska's North road schedule says they won't win but ku has to play OU, TX and Ttech.  2 losses for sure maybe 3.  Don't count out the young Tigers either.  Oline is stacked, RB we are loaded.  Receivers and TE take a step back without Jmack and Coffmann but a respectable bunch still there.  New O and D coordinators appear a weakness but most real tiger fans say good riddance to Eberflus our D sucked bad last year.  And Christain was too predictable on O.  Yost will be wide open.  We are a long shot for sure but IMO the North is wide open.  Colorado can probably make a case for the North too.   

Sorry to take up space talking about the team that will be fodder for the South Champ. No doubt the South champ plays the SEC champ for the National Title. It's where the power is.  This year. Again.  I'd love to see OSU be the king.  Zac Robinson is a complete stud and name me two better tailbacks than Hunter and Totson?  Stud O line and quality recruits from Texas on D.  South games will be awesome.


Since: Jun 26, 2009
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:56 pm

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The Big XII is a power house, and I think OK and Kansas will meet in the Big XII Championship. This my reason why, OK has too many weapons on that offense like Bradford,Chris Brown,DeMarco Murry,Jermanie Gresham. This is a good OK team and I think they will probably win the national title like I said before too many weapons on that OK team. Now Kansas, this is a good team to Todd Ressing will carry this team like he did last year. Kansas has weapons and a great coach who knows how to win. The weapons that Kansas has are like I said Todd Ressing, Jake Sharp (who I think will shine for them this year), two great wide outs in Dezmon Briscoe, and Kerry Meier. This will be a close race in the Big XII but the favorite to win this is OK and that will be my pick.

Since: May 9, 2009
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:29 pm

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Thats what I was thinking lol. Reesing is not going to win anything and he is not going to the NFL because hes too small in the NFL if your not 6'3'' or taller you usually are not used as a quarterback. Look what happened to Eric Crouch and Chase Daniel they are all about the same size and to tell you the truth Zac Robinson of OSU has a better chance at getting the heisman then Todd Reesing because he is on a team that is going to go far this year and beyond.

Since: Nov 15, 2006
Posted on: July 1, 2009 8:14 pm

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2009 Heisman candidate Todd Reesing of Kansas


Hahahahahahahahahahaha, are you kidding me?

Since: Nov 3, 2008
Posted on: July 1, 2009 6:46 pm

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Mack Brown did exactly what a coach is supposed to do given the circumstancesMack Brown has won 1 Conference Title in 12 years. That is pitiful.

Stoops did the EXACT same thing prior to the final BCS rankings (and yes, there are sources to back this up)No he didn't. He didn't get on national television when UT played Texas A&M, he refused. Don't compare Mack Brown to Bob Stoops.  There is no comparison. The second place theme has followed Mack his entire career. When he coached North Carolina, he was always second place in that conference as well.  He never could get past Bobby Bowden. 

  "Injuries" seems to be the drug of choice these days.  
J450N1, I think you truely know better. You were as shocked as 90% of your longhorn friends were when Texas won that game last year. This year, you will be as terrified before the game starts as you will be sick when it ends.
Oh and please Texas, keep talking down the OU defense.

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