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Florida State upset at Oklahoma

Posted on: August 21, 2009 9:44 am
 
There are some FSU types who are disputing that the school "blew the whistle" on Oklahoma in the Mike Balogun case.

Balogun is suing the NCAA and received a temporary injunction to continue practicing with the Sooners. The NCAA is looking into Balogun's eligibility. Association rules state that any player who plays semi-pro football loses a year of eligibility each he plays in a semi-pro league past the year of 21.

Court documents obtained by The Oklahoman state that Florida State contacted the Big 12 and "suggested the league investigate Balogun's eligibility." Court documents are court documents, frequently written like police reports. Cops want to make their busts look good. Lawyers want to paint their clients in the best possible light.

But the way I'm getting it is that FSU called Oklahoma directly and simply asked (paraphrasing): "We had a similar case and couldn't get our guy eligible. Tell us how you did it."

I'm also told the ACC called the Big 12 and the Big 12 replied that everything was fine with Balogun. It's a complicated case, involving exactly when Balogun stopped playing semi-pro. But it might a little sensational to conveniently blame FSU for dropping a dime on the Sooners. Doesn't Free Shoes University have enough of its own problems?

For more background on Balogun, read this story from the New York Times.
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Since: Sep 15, 2008
Posted on: August 23, 2009 7:21 pm
 

Florida State upset at Oklahoma

It's a disgrace that Florida State, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Michigan, and countless other "college" football teams continue to get away with this stuff. Toss USC in there for extra measure. Explain to me, in detail, what FSU has gotten away with?

I'm pretty sure we've lost wins, scholarships, and player eligibilities to NCAA rulings.  Basically, everything thats come up in the past 5 years.

So, what have we gotten away with?


P.S. Do people think before they say things anymore?


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Since: May 27, 2009
Posted on: August 23, 2009 6:25 am
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Since: Dec 21, 2006
Posted on: August 22, 2009 2:10 pm
 

Florida State upset at Oklahoma

I'm a fan of neither team, but if you're going to bring up the "Free Shoes" incident, then you have to acknowledge the indiscretions in Oklahoma's past as well.  These two teams really are very comparable in relation to past success and transgressions.  If anyone is wondering what I'm talking about, start doing some searches on what was happening at Oklahoma when Barry Switzer was coaching.  Players shooting each other, Switzer defending players for receiving cars and money, rampant steroid use, and theft and vandalism in cities where they played "away" games.  I believe that FSU and Oklahoma are both past all that, and would love to move forward, but I'm not okay with painting a biased picture of one of THESE two schools with one hero and one villian.  If you're going to reference one school's ancient history, go ahead and give us the full story on the other as well.



Since: Sep 26, 2008
Posted on: August 22, 2009 11:52 am
 

Florida State upset at Oklahoma

Nice reporting as always Dodd.  You're such a Gator catch rag.  How about reporting actual facts instead of regurgitating garbage reporting from the Tulsa sports page.  See below:

Florida State responds to charge of reporting Oklahoma eligibility violation

In response to erroneous media reports, Florida State University athletics would like to clarify its conversation with Oklahoma University as it pertains to the eligibility of Sooners linebacker Mike Balogun.

Florida State's compliance office did contact the Oklahoma University compliance office after learning that Balogun had played in a semi-pro football league while watching the Jan. 9, 2009 television broadcast of the Bowl Championship Series national championship game.

"The purpose of the inquiry to Oklahoma University was to gather information regarding a similar eligibility case involving former Florida State wide receiver Corey Surrency," said Brian Battle, FSU Associate Athletic Director for Compliance. "Florida State's compliance office did not contact the Big 12 or the NCAA."

Surrency, who also played in a semi-pro football league beyond his 21st birthday, was denied a second year of eligibility by the NCAA following the school's appeal on April 28, 2009.

"There was no ill intention on our part," Battle said. "It was merely a fact-finding phone call, made only to the Oklahoma University compliance office. This is a very common practice amongst compliance offices with this type of complex situation."<!-- no ad here-->



Since: Sep 15, 2008
Posted on: August 22, 2009 1:31 am
 

Florida State upset at Oklahoma

Dennis Dodd did not coin the nickname "Free Shoes University."  You can thank Steve Spurrier, ex-head coach of the Florida Gators, for that.  In the context of this article, it's totally appropriate to throw in this "jab".  I don't understand why this makes Dodd a juvenile 8th grader. Because it has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with this article?

Thats like me writing an article about UF losing to Troy because one of the players threw a computer he stole out the window hoping no one would be smart enough to look out it (which, since its UF, I'm surprised it didnt really work...)



Since: Sep 15, 2008
Posted on: August 22, 2009 1:25 am
 

Florida State upset at Oklahoma

FSU students on a National Championship team stole shoes, so... Who cares, right? Jawa - the shoes weren't stolen. They were bought for them by an sleazy agent trying to sign a meal ticket. Oh, I know.  But everyone else who likes to call FSU "Free Shoes University" forgets that and says our students stole them.  The fact of the matter is that if you want to turn a blind eye to a teams shortcomings because they're winning (like UF fans), don't bring up a teams shortcoming when they were winning.



Since: Sep 15, 2008
Posted on: August 21, 2009 9:37 pm
 

Free Shoes University

Dennis Dodd did not coin the nickname "Free Shoes University."  You can thank Steve Spurrier, ex-head coach of the Florida Gators, for that.  In the context of this article, it's totally appropriate to throw in this "jab".  I don't understand why this makes Dodd a juvenile 8th grader.




Since: Sep 17, 2007
Posted on: August 21, 2009 7:21 pm
 

Florida State upset at Oklahoma

Haha.  Even though the Criminoles are at the root of this, I'm sure that whiny OU fans will find a way to ultimately blame USC, the NCAA and the media for this.



Since: Aug 25, 2008
Posted on: August 21, 2009 4:49 pm
 

Florida State upset at Oklahoma

I think the only reason anyone other than gator fans are on this site is because of the fantasy football. Dodd, seriously do you pound it to UF or what? The issue, which you almost addressed is the fact that it is ok for OU to have a kid play ball who played semi pro but not FSU. FSU wrote a letter to OU asking "how they did it?" Being a Nole fan we (I) have felt for a while that the NCAA kinda has it our for FSU in particular since they have lost to them in court just about everytime. That whole approval for using the Seminole name and everything really stung the PC crowd there. Long before then the NCAA liked to come down on some teams in some leagues and years and not on others. I could list all the examples of violations by the beloved gaytors but everyone pretty much knows those already. This is why the NCAA is crying today about FSU and the "LAW" in the state of Florida. How dare they have to obey the law of the Florida? Now the NCAA so much as said that teams in the state have an unfair advantage because NCAA documents must be public? I think it's more of the case that the NCAA cannot punish who they want when they want for reasons that fans cannot know. You know, like when a player is denied the right to play at one school, but not another. When a one loss team from a conference with 5 teams not finishing in the top 100 of national offense plays for a national championship over an undefeated team who played better against similar talent but not similar media favoritism. Dodd go buy a copy of GQ and hit your nirvana.





Since: Sep 19, 2007
Posted on: August 21, 2009 4:41 pm
 

Florida State upset at Oklahoma

FSU students on a National Championship team stole shoes, so... Who cares, right? Jawa - the shoes weren't stolen. They were bought for them by an sleazy agent trying to sign a meal ticket.


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