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Boise's role in Thurday's mess

Posted on: September 5, 2009 3:38 pm
 

Got a perfect way to get into Byron Hout’s head next week.

Before the first play from scrimmage a Miami (Ohio) offensive lineman ought to shout across the line, “How was your internal discipline.”

Twenty-four hours after Oregon’s LeGarrette Blount was suspended for the season, the national glare of blame has focused on Boise State. Incredibly, the guy who baited Blount into freaking out was not suspended. Hout, a sophomore defensive end, was the one who laid a hand on Blount, getting his attention, then uttered, “How’d you like that ass-whuppin’?”

Blount responded with a right to Hout’s jaw. In the immediate aftermath, Hout was a victim. Now he and the school have some explaining to do. Coach Chris Petersen said his player’s punishment would be handled internally. No suspension.

"Byron's mistake wasn't as extreme as LeGarrette's," Petersen said,

True, but Petersen’s reaction was not good enough. Not even close. Not when Oregon has been public and contrite every step of the way. That includes Blount who, despite his heinous actions, apologized profusely afterward.

There is no punch if Hout doesn’t taunt.  Sure, Blount contributed to the atmosphere by saying in the offseason that the Ducks owed Boise “an ass-whuppin’”. But the comment wouldn’t have been made had not two Ducks been taken out by cheap shots in last year’s meetings.

It was a case of he said-he said that almost ended tragically. WAC officials were worried about setting precedent for penalizing a player for merely taunting. Where does it end, they asked? It ends right here. This was literally a once-in-a-lifetime event, an assault that occurred after the game out of the jurisdiction of the officials and, thus, the NCAA as well.

Boise and Petersen have to give us something in terms of a penalty (one-game would be fine). Some remorse would be nice too. We haven’t heard from Hout and probably won’t the rest of the season.

I have some questions that probably won’t be answered.

--What is Hout’s “discipline”? Stadium steps at dawn are a joke.

--Why isn’t that discipline public? Hout was the firestarter in front of millions of people on national television. Boise needs to be more accountable. (More on that below.)

--Because players are limited to 20 hours of athletic-related work per week, any sort of “discipline” would seemingly cut into his game prep. Will Hout miss practice to be “disciplined”?

What we’ve heard from Boise so far is a press release and a lot of crickets chirping. Typical, really. The Boise program is, shall we say, different when it comes to full disclosure. Petersen does not allow opposing media to talk to his players during game week. His quarterback, Kellen Moore, speaks to the media once every two weeks.

For a program that gets so much love nationally it sure does nothing extra to publicize itself. When something bad happens, like now, it makes it easier to question the program.

I’m not the only one with a problem. Oregon AD Mike Bellotti plans to talk to Boise officials on Monday. He is upset that replays of Blount’s punch were shown repeatedly on the Boise video board, possibly inciting the crowd even further.

The WAC and school won’t confirm this but Hout probably was privately reprimanded by the conference. That’s the first penalty stage for a violation of the WAC’s sportsmanship policy.

The school has jurisdiction in situations like this. Commissioner Karl Benson then has the option to accept the penalties or add to it. Obviously, Boise chose to do almost nothing.

Category: NCAAF
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Since: Sep 5, 2009
Posted on: September 5, 2009 7:35 pm
 

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

You go Mr. Dodd.  I totally support you in every way.  Hout started the problem and couldn't finish it....and it is obvious that Boise's other players weren't offended by it....they did nothing.  What a way to support your team mate.  And HOUT is a WUSS!!!!  One punch took him down...poor little thing.  I feel so bad for him yeah right.  He deserved exactly what he got and more if you ask me!  And Boise states stadium replaying the incident over and over...they are lucky it didn't end up much worse.  Its a shame he couldn't knock out all of you pansies that run your mouth and judge others without even knowing them.  Ex:  If you cause a car accident it is your fault so accept the responsibility for your actions Hout and get your punishment and all of your others get a life.



Since: Nov 19, 2006
Posted on: September 5, 2009 7:32 pm
 

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

Great post.  I was actually one of those people that thought Hout deserved a suspension, but everything you say makes perfect sense.  You've actually changed my mind ... now there's something you don't see on a message board everyday!



Since: Sep 22, 2006
Posted on: September 5, 2009 7:32 pm
 

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

A+ points by Dodds.  Hout should share in the responsibility.  He ran across the field to hit a player on the opposing field in the shoulder and then made whatever comments he made, am I saying that justifies Blounts actions?  Absolutely not, they were heinous and he deserves the punishments he received.  I think Hout deserves an appropriate treatement for running across the field and shoving a player of the opposing team.  That can't be allowed for reasons just like this.  Trash talk is one thing, but the second you put your hands on another player once the game is over you've over stepped trash talking and started escalating the situation.

When the event occured, I thought there was a rogue undisciplined program, at the time I didn't think it was Boise State.



Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: September 5, 2009 7:23 pm
 

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

Blount runs his mouth all week, gets -8 yards, then can't take a taunt? Seems to me the thug can giveth, but he can't taketh.

Hout may be a loud mouth, but he was just giving back what this punk was spouting all week. Why should he get any penalty at all? This was after the game. He simply let the loudmouth know he was punked. It may have been classless, but that's it.

This is so typical from a no-nothing like Dodd. This so-called college football "expert" once wrote a column telling us how good Ty Willingham was. That coach just was fired for a winless season and was the first in the history of UW to have 3 straight losing seasons. He left Notre Dame a mess with 2 of the worst recruiting classes in history, then went to Washington and virtually desimated a proud program. Yet, this cretin lauded him as a "good" coach. Dodd has no standards. I doubt he can chew gum and type at the same time.

He also defended that female "sportswriter" who was humbled by Mike Gundy. He swore this would hurt Gundy, when in fact, Gundy's popularity and recruiting greatly benefitted from how he stood up for his players and let the media have it.

Dodd is utterly clueless about sports, culture or writing. He is without a doubt a hack among hacks. Prisco and Dodd should join forces in the defense of idiocy. In fact has anyone ever seen both of them in the same room?



Since: Sep 5, 2009
Posted on: September 5, 2009 7:23 pm
 

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

Hey just because a guy voices his opinion doesn't mean you have to quit a site. He proves very valid points in this and its nice to see a side like this to the matter. You are being ignorant by not considering this point of view, and dismissing it like its a piece of trash. Not everything is going to be to your liking, but don't trash a decent article.



Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: September 5, 2009 7:16 pm
 

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

Some twisted logic you have there Dodd...

It's just plain stupid to assess all punishment according the the overreaction to a particular action or string of words.

By that logic, if I Dodd's stupidity in his column drives me inexplicably to slaughter a half dozen people, he should be held responsible as much as me...dumb...just plain dumb.

Hout was wrong, and many others have done at least what he did or more in the taunting department, and were not subjected to a sucker punch assault in front of the whole nation...it's called restraint, Dennis...look into it, and pass that on to your boy Blount the next time you are rationalizing some of his thug-like behavior for him.

This kind of tripe is what feeds the entitlement mentality of these punks, and further enables them to justify their ridiculous actions.

Stop blaming Hout because Blount started the war of words, and Boise St. and Hout ended it. Live (exult) by the words, die (suffer)by the words...seems fair to me.



Since: Apr 4, 2008
Posted on: September 5, 2009 7:03 pm
 

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

So Hout should get disciplined or suspended?   Funny.   I think he paid a high enough price when he got cold cocked in the chops.    After all the crap that Blount was talking before the game, he should have EXPECTED someone to throw his own comments in his face and just taken it like a man.   As we now know, he didn't. 



Since: Mar 2, 2007
Posted on: September 5, 2009 7:02 pm
 

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

Dodd didn't say Boise State was to blame -- he simply stated that without the taunt there wouldn't have been the punch.I'm sure you saw Blount's reaction, retry (and Dodd for that matter).  That kid was way, way, WAY out of control.  If it wasn't a taunt by a a Boise State player, something else...eventually...was going to set this kid off.  Almost no one else who have OVERreacted in the manner that Blount did.  I hope, for his sake, that he addresses, and gets some help for, what is clearly a fairly serious anger control problem.  



Since: Mar 2, 2007
Posted on: September 5, 2009 7:01 pm
 

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

Dodd didn't say Boise State was to blame -- he simply stated that without the taunt there wouldn't have been the punch.I'm sure you saw Blount's reaction, retry (and Dodd for that matter).  That kid was way, way, WAY out of control.  If it wasn't a taunt by a a Boise State player, something else...eventually...was going to set this kid off.  Almost no one else who have OVERreacted in the manner that Blount did.  I hope, for his sake, that he addresses, and gets some help for, what is clearly a fairly serious anger control problem.  




Since: Jan 6, 2009
Posted on: September 5, 2009 6:54 pm
 

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

Dodd didn't say Boise State was to blame -- he simply stated that without the taunt there wouldn't have been the punch. And he didn't say Oregon shouldn't be punished. Rather, he praised the team for being open about that punishment, which justly removes the said troublemaker from the team for the entire season. What he did say, and what I've been wondering all along, is that as long as college football is a sport played in public, the public should be informed of what steps are taken in reprimanding its athletes. Blount committed a heinous act, but it followed a classless act. I want to know the whole story and Boise State should either give up the money it earns by being on television (and hence accepting the spotlight), or respond publicly in instances that were broadcast (ad nauseum) to the nation.
P.S. I'm a Boise State fan and have been for several years.



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