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Boise's role in Thurday's mess

Posted on: September 5, 2009 3:38 pm

Got a perfect way to get into Byron Hout’s head next week.

Before the first play from scrimmage a Miami (Ohio) offensive lineman ought to shout across the line, “How was your internal discipline.”

Twenty-four hours after Oregon’s LeGarrette Blount was suspended for the season, the national glare of blame has focused on Boise State. Incredibly, the guy who baited Blount into freaking out was not suspended. Hout, a sophomore defensive end, was the one who laid a hand on Blount, getting his attention, then uttered, “How’d you like that ass-whuppin’?”

Blount responded with a right to Hout’s jaw. In the immediate aftermath, Hout was a victim. Now he and the school have some explaining to do. Coach Chris Petersen said his player’s punishment would be handled internally. No suspension.

"Byron's mistake wasn't as extreme as LeGarrette's," Petersen said,

True, but Petersen’s reaction was not good enough. Not even close. Not when Oregon has been public and contrite every step of the way. That includes Blount who, despite his heinous actions, apologized profusely afterward.

There is no punch if Hout doesn’t taunt.  Sure, Blount contributed to the atmosphere by saying in the offseason that the Ducks owed Boise “an ass-whuppin’”. But the comment wouldn’t have been made had not two Ducks been taken out by cheap shots in last year’s meetings.

It was a case of he said-he said that almost ended tragically. WAC officials were worried about setting precedent for penalizing a player for merely taunting. Where does it end, they asked? It ends right here. This was literally a once-in-a-lifetime event, an assault that occurred after the game out of the jurisdiction of the officials and, thus, the NCAA as well.

Boise and Petersen have to give us something in terms of a penalty (one-game would be fine). Some remorse would be nice too. We haven’t heard from Hout and probably won’t the rest of the season.

I have some questions that probably won’t be answered.

--What is Hout’s “discipline”? Stadium steps at dawn are a joke.

--Why isn’t that discipline public? Hout was the firestarter in front of millions of people on national television. Boise needs to be more accountable. (More on that below.)

--Because players are limited to 20 hours of athletic-related work per week, any sort of “discipline” would seemingly cut into his game prep. Will Hout miss practice to be “disciplined”?

What we’ve heard from Boise so far is a press release and a lot of crickets chirping. Typical, really. The Boise program is, shall we say, different when it comes to full disclosure. Petersen does not allow opposing media to talk to his players during game week. His quarterback, Kellen Moore, speaks to the media once every two weeks.

For a program that gets so much love nationally it sure does nothing extra to publicize itself. When something bad happens, like now, it makes it easier to question the program.

I’m not the only one with a problem. Oregon AD Mike Bellotti plans to talk to Boise officials on Monday. He is upset that replays of Blount’s punch were shown repeatedly on the Boise video board, possibly inciting the crowd even further.

The WAC and school won’t confirm this but Hout probably was privately reprimanded by the conference. That’s the first penalty stage for a violation of the WAC’s sportsmanship policy.

The school has jurisdiction in situations like this. Commissioner Karl Benson then has the option to accept the penalties or add to it. Obviously, Boise chose to do almost nothing.

Category: NCAAF

Since: Aug 29, 2008
Posted on: September 5, 2009 6:52 pm

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

Please do.

Since: Jul 28, 2009
Posted on: September 5, 2009 6:51 pm

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

Blount got exactly what he deserved, and it's HIS fault that the rest of his college career, and possibly his WHOLE NFL career is ruined!  He should have controlled himself and not let such a small thing like that get to him!  As for Hout, for starting the whole mess, he should be suspended for AT LEAST 4 or 5 games because that is also unacceptable to provoke a player into attacking him!  Sometimes I wonder why it's left to the officials and the Conferences to exact punishment, when the people at the NCAA should be stepping in on situations like this.  Oh well, I guess until the rules change a little bit, it's going to be the same deal, all the time.

Since: Mar 2, 2007
Posted on: September 5, 2009 6:43 pm

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

This should be Boise State's statement.

"On Thursday evening, following our victory over Oregon, the win was overshadowed by an ugly and unfortunate incident.  As the two teams met at midfield after the game's final play, a member of our team, Byron Hout, displayed a moment of poor sportsmanship by taunting Oregon's LeGarrette Blount.  We regret that Byron chose to celebrate our victory in that manner.  That said, we do not feel that Byron should be punished or held accountable for the actions of LeGarrette Blount.

While we do not condone taunting by our players, particularly following a hard fought game, we absolutely do not feel that Byron's action warranted the reaction that followed.  While we certainly have had, and will continue to have, words for Byron regarding his momentary lack of judgement, we do not believe that his action warrants a suspension.  Therefore, he will not be suspended.  

In closing, while we regret that the game itself was overshadowed by the unfortunate postgame incident, we will not discipline a Boise State player because of the out of control actions of an Oregon player."

Since: Oct 18, 2006
Posted on: September 5, 2009 6:39 pm

Dennis Dodd...

Hey Dodd,

The National Enquirer called looking for a writer. Should I give them your name? You are a perfect fit.

You are insulting a class coach and a class school and looking to do what you are blaming Hout of. Worst thing is, you're doing for some silver. Quit trying to make money by throwing gas on the people and lighting a match to those who keep this website in business. Someday a fan is going to sucker punch you and then we can call out for CBS to suspend you too.

Quit being a hyprocrit. You care nothing about either program; all you care about is the tripe you call journalism. You feed like a parasite on people's emotion in order to gain readership numbers.

If you want to be a real editorialist, go back to school. Try journalism, it might help.

Just because Coach Petersen said Hout's discipline is going to be handled internally, doesn't mean he will merely run stairs. For all you, he could suspend him for a game or more or something else.

Quit being all butt hurt because he won't give you media parasites the inside scoop.

Since: Jun 14, 2007
Posted on: September 5, 2009 6:31 pm

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

And what would be "the right thing to do?

If the Boise State player does not get hit, what would have been "the right thing to do"? 

The whole mess hinges on the reaction of Blount.  So what you're saying is the person who talks trash should be punished ONLY if the other guy reacts?

Wow!  There would be players punished after every game due to the trash talk and verbal abuse heaped on each other.

So, tell us again.. in your opinion... what would be the "right thing to do"?

Since: Jun 25, 2007
Posted on: September 5, 2009 6:09 pm

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

I travelled to Boise for Oregon St. vs. Boise St. in 2004 and was not impressed one iota with the Boise St. fans.  What I recall is that fans rather than storming the field to celebrate a great win, moved to the end zone exits and taunted Beavers fans. like myself as we left.  In my mind they were clearly doing everything possible to start a fight.

Having been a coach on a much smaller scale, and having inherited some bad attitude players at a small high school.  We received good comments thru out my season about the positive changes and how the bad assed players who had carried over from the previous year had changed their attitude.  It very simply comes down to the coach and his leadership.

Ducks, and Autzen stadium have not been the foundation of good sportsmansip either.  In a word, I almost feel that Boise St. out Ducked the Ducks.  However, in the after math, it is clear that even the questionable Ducks have taken the high ground.  Congratulations to Belloti and the Ducks program for doing the right thing.

Each day that Boise State delays in figuring out the right thing to do they lose status in my mind.

Am I ever glad to have Mike Riley at Oregon State.  He suffered thru a few years of Erickson holdovers and untimely "personal foul" penalties.  But look at that program now.  Sportmanship pays off in the short run as well as the long run in producing good citzens and and leaders for our society as a whole.

Since: Dec 9, 2006
Posted on: September 5, 2009 5:58 pm

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

Say for a minute Blount did not respond to the taunting and just walked away, would Hout have been punished?  What would happened if it occured during the game if Hout taunted and Blout did not respond?  Probably a penalty and the ire of his coach. Certainly in either case Hout would have not received a suspension.  Bottom line is Hout's punishment should be based on what he did and not how the other player responded.  I believe Hout was jerk but getting decked on national TV was sufficient punishment.

Since: Oct 11, 2006
Posted on: September 5, 2009 5:49 pm

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

A year? Really? I mean, really? Great, NCAA and Oregon, lets go ahead and destroy a young man's life for throwing a punch at a redneck punk trash talker? Lame, lame, lame. When screw these kids over, it winds up destroying their lives, taking the chance away from a trouled kid who's got this one shot. More than 3 games is really not necessary.

Since: Sep 5, 2009
Posted on: September 5, 2009 5:35 pm

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

You are just mad at the Boise State staff because they don't cower to the media. That is the bottom line. You all but laid out your motive in the article. That's their business how they let their players interact with you hacks. It obviously has been working out for em, hasn't it?

Since: May 31, 2007
Posted on: September 5, 2009 5:33 pm

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

Seriously? He's supposed to get 'disciplined' for saying "How'd you like that ass whuppin?"

That's probably not even one of the top 25 worst things that came out of players' mouths during the game. I mean, hell, I was in a Division I-AA marching band for a year, and the band-to-band trash talk was worse than "How'd you like that ass whuppin'?"

If "How'd you like that ass whuppin'?" is a sportsmanship violation, you'd need to throw all the players out.

Players talk trash. They get in each other's faces, they talk about each other's mamas, and they brag when they win. That's just a fact of life, and if Blount had the maturity of a kid HALF his age, he'd have skin thick enough to deal with it.

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