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Boise's role in Thurday's mess

Posted on: September 5, 2009 3:38 pm

Got a perfect way to get into Byron Hout’s head next week.

Before the first play from scrimmage a Miami (Ohio) offensive lineman ought to shout across the line, “How was your internal discipline.”

Twenty-four hours after Oregon’s LeGarrette Blount was suspended for the season, the national glare of blame has focused on Boise State. Incredibly, the guy who baited Blount into freaking out was not suspended. Hout, a sophomore defensive end, was the one who laid a hand on Blount, getting his attention, then uttered, “How’d you like that ass-whuppin’?”

Blount responded with a right to Hout’s jaw. In the immediate aftermath, Hout was a victim. Now he and the school have some explaining to do. Coach Chris Petersen said his player’s punishment would be handled internally. No suspension.

"Byron's mistake wasn't as extreme as LeGarrette's," Petersen said,

True, but Petersen’s reaction was not good enough. Not even close. Not when Oregon has been public and contrite every step of the way. That includes Blount who, despite his heinous actions, apologized profusely afterward.

There is no punch if Hout doesn’t taunt.  Sure, Blount contributed to the atmosphere by saying in the offseason that the Ducks owed Boise “an ass-whuppin’”. But the comment wouldn’t have been made had not two Ducks been taken out by cheap shots in last year’s meetings.

It was a case of he said-he said that almost ended tragically. WAC officials were worried about setting precedent for penalizing a player for merely taunting. Where does it end, they asked? It ends right here. This was literally a once-in-a-lifetime event, an assault that occurred after the game out of the jurisdiction of the officials and, thus, the NCAA as well.

Boise and Petersen have to give us something in terms of a penalty (one-game would be fine). Some remorse would be nice too. We haven’t heard from Hout and probably won’t the rest of the season.

I have some questions that probably won’t be answered.

--What is Hout’s “discipline”? Stadium steps at dawn are a joke.

--Why isn’t that discipline public? Hout was the firestarter in front of millions of people on national television. Boise needs to be more accountable. (More on that below.)

--Because players are limited to 20 hours of athletic-related work per week, any sort of “discipline” would seemingly cut into his game prep. Will Hout miss practice to be “disciplined”?

What we’ve heard from Boise so far is a press release and a lot of crickets chirping. Typical, really. The Boise program is, shall we say, different when it comes to full disclosure. Petersen does not allow opposing media to talk to his players during game week. His quarterback, Kellen Moore, speaks to the media once every two weeks.

For a program that gets so much love nationally it sure does nothing extra to publicize itself. When something bad happens, like now, it makes it easier to question the program.

I’m not the only one with a problem. Oregon AD Mike Bellotti plans to talk to Boise officials on Monday. He is upset that replays of Blount’s punch were shown repeatedly on the Boise video board, possibly inciting the crowd even further.

The WAC and school won’t confirm this but Hout probably was privately reprimanded by the conference. That’s the first penalty stage for a violation of the WAC’s sportsmanship policy.

The school has jurisdiction in situations like this. Commissioner Karl Benson then has the option to accept the penalties or add to it. Obviously, Boise chose to do almost nothing.

Category: NCAAF

Since: Nov 3, 2007
Posted on: September 5, 2009 5:33 pm

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

Woody Hayes was forced to resign at Ohio State for laying a harmless blow on an opponent who was taunting his players on the sideline. He even took a swing at one of his players trying to restrain him. Blount cold cocked the guy and then went beserk trying to reach fans in the stands. If Hayes was forced to quit, Blount should be forced out for the year too. Playing college football is a privelidge, not a right.

Since: Sep 5, 2009
Posted on: September 5, 2009 5:23 pm

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

Looks like Dodd missed the mark on this one.  Ought to send the article in to Woman's Day.  Blount ran his mouth and couldn't handle it when it was handed back to him.  He'll make a great case study in the NFL.

Since: Dec 28, 2006
Posted on: September 5, 2009 5:22 pm

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

Dodd is a troll.  His journalistic talent doesn't cut it, so he routinely makes inflamitory points and idiotic comments to drive hits and comments to his column.

I quit reading years ago, but come back every now and then (this makes the second time in 2-3 years) just to see if the troll has changed. I visited this time specifically to check if he commented on the Oregon-Boise St incident.  His column is exactly what I expected. 

Everyone should do us all a favor and simply stop viewing/reading his columns.  The market place would then do its thing and Dodd would be looking for a new career.  Perhaps he should follow his natural talents and start a new career in cleaning stables.

Since: Aug 23, 2006
Posted on: September 5, 2009 5:20 pm

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

This whole hullabaloo about the supposed punishment that Hout should be getting from Boise State is ridiculous. Players talk shiite every game, every play. It's an unfortunate aspect of the modern nature of American sports and has become an almost expected part of the game. A player makes a tackle or hit, touchdown or catch and will almost undeniably jump up and down, shake his arse, waive his arms around and talk shiite to the opposing player or sideline.

To wonder when Hout is going to be punished for tapping Blount on the shoulder pad and asking him "How'd you like that ass whupping?" would mean that you'd be dishing out penalties and suspensions to a large majority of College players each and every game and play. I watch a lot of Rugby Union, the All Blacks and New Zealand rugby, and see a game where players are really dealing out huge hits, non-stop for eighty minutes. You don't see all of this BS that dominates American sports. You see gamesmanship, respect and an all out attitude without the need to constantly put down and insult your opponents. BS like this only makes me want to turn off football and watch more rugby.

Hout may have got what he deserved for his actions, but no suspension or further action is necesarry for him.

Since: Jan 22, 2007
Posted on: September 5, 2009 5:16 pm

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

HA HA HA HA how can you be so far off Dodd?

Did you ever play sports?

Guys that open their mouths before the game...always get a little smack coming their way after the game when they lose.

It's called 'eating crow'.

Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: September 5, 2009 5:11 pm

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

Wow, what game were you watcfhing? I agree that Hout should have not touched nor taunted Blount. But Blount went way off the deep end. He slugged one of his own players, threw one of his own coaches away, tried to go after fans in the crowd, tried to shake off a pliceman who was required to escort him off the field and you think he was punished too much?  If Kelly had not done this he would have been through as a head coach.  He did the right thing. Go back and look at the replay. Blount had his helmet snapped on and was ready for war after the game. He was embarassed after getting kicked around in a game not nearly as close as the score indicated (especially after trash talking in the media like a little child) and was a bomb waitng for a match. As for Dodd, I have defended him often frorm people but no more. He clearly has a problem with Boise State and was hoping beyond hope for them to get clobbered and is sore. Anyone small school that may challenge a big school will be dumped on by him because of the big-school, big-city complex so many like him have.  Sad indeed.

Since: Mar 2, 2007
Posted on: September 5, 2009 5:06 pm

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

He deserves greater blame, period.Hout

1) lightly grabs Blount's shoulder pad and says "how did you like that butt whipping?"


1) Punches Hout in the face while Hout is being pulled away.
2) Shoves and takes swings at several of his teammates who are simply trying to restrain Blount.
3) Has to be restrained by teammates as well as security to keep from going into the crowd and attacking fans.

How you can truly believe that Hout deserves the "greater blame" is absolutely astonishing and frankly a little scary.   

Since: Apr 5, 2008
Posted on: September 5, 2009 5:05 pm

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

This post is a joke right? A player with a known attitude problem throws a punch after a poorly played game and it's the fault of BSU? It was replayed too much on the scoreboard? This is Boise Idaho your talking about, they are as passionate about football as is Oregon. This situation is a terrible mess for sure, but it's not on the back of Boise. Blount should take it up with his teamates. I guess Oregon's time of possession in the first half is Boise fault as well? Oh yeah. It was.

Since: Nov 9, 2008
Posted on: September 5, 2009 5:02 pm

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

Disciplined for what? Asking a guy who ran his mouth before the game how he liked loosing? Yeah right. Trash talking is part of sports. Just because Blount had a total melt down because of that trash talking is no reason to discipline Hout. 

If you were going to do that noone would be able to play next week.  

Since: Dec 26, 2008
Posted on: September 5, 2009 4:54 pm

Boise's role in Thurday's mess

Dodd is dead on right. 
Hout started the whole thing, they already won and it went beyond a classless taunting of a beaten opponent- he made the initial contact- technically a battery under every State's law- period. He deserves greater blame, period.
LaGarrette was dealt with unbelievably unfairly, he was not the instigator- if he went up to him unprovoked thats one thing but the guy got in his face and made initial contact- he reacted and deserves to be punished, maybe one game- not the whole season- Oregon reacted far too quickly in response to public opinion instead of basic fairness.
One of the greatest miscarriages of justice I've seen in a long, long time.
What happens in baseball- the pitcher beans someone, the batter rushes the mound and they both get suspended. In hockey the instigator gets the greater penalty, same with the NFL fines and suspensions.
Oregon and Boise State and the WAC need to get a clue... they all seriously dropped the ball on this one.

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