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Kansas deserves better

Posted on: December 3, 2009 8:32 pm
Edited on: December 3, 2009 9:42 pm
Mark Mangino will never be a head coach again, not at this level.

Not at a place like Kansas where he took a basketball school to the Orange Bowl.

Not in the Big 12, where just two years ago he became national coach of the year. It is both troubling and just that Mangino is gone after allegations of verbal and physical abuse of his players. Troubling because if allegations are true, then dozens of coaches and players are guilty of staying silent -- for years.

Only during a season-ending seven-game losing streak did word leak out. Troubling because those same coaches and players were too intimidated to say anything, worried about losing their scholarships or their jobs.

Who knows how many other players and coaches have been put in this situation at other schools? At Kansas, a code of silence enabled a flawed man to allegedly belittle his players. The decision to get rid of the coach is just, because Mangino had to be stopped.

His methods went beyond tough love or aggressive coaching. If only a fraction of the episodes are true -- many will never come to light -- then Mangino has been in denial about his conduct for too long. At this point it seems that the terms of the settlement will keep us from ever knowing the true extent of the alleged abuse. Reports have some of the conduct going back decades to a high school job for Mangino in Pennsylvania.

We can only hope that Mangino becomes a better man. As a coach, he was a discliplinarian, a trait that belied his 400-pound frame. Based on the allegations, anger management counseling might be in order. Let's hope his alleged victims recover too. Now it's time to move on.

Buffalo's Turner Gill is a perfect replacement. Right now, he is No. 1 on AD Lew Perkins' list.

The interest, it seems, is mutual.

A good coach -- and a better man -- for Kansas is waiting in the wings.

Category: NCAAF
Tags: Kansas

Since: Nov 9, 2008
Posted on: December 4, 2009 9:56 am

Kansas deserves better

Stern discipline and belittling are two completly seperate things. 

Let's face it, Mangino isn't the coach we thought he was.  They finished last in the the Big 12 this year....dead last.  They have beat one team in the Big 12 with a winning conference record, Mizzou last year.  Ever since their outstanding defensive coordinator left things have gone down hill.  There is no excuse for losing to several teams with less talent this season and finishing dead LAST in the Big 12.  So is this the program of Mangino's that you are defending?  The most talented team he has had in Kansas, and one that finished last and will be sitting at home in December.

Turner Gill may not be a bad hire, but how about Jim Harbaugh.

Since: Aug 28, 2006
Posted on: December 4, 2009 9:49 am

Kansas deserves better

If the expectation is 'threatening players physically', how you play football in Kansas from high school to college,... No wonder Kansas football is bad.

Since: Mar 1, 2007
Posted on: December 4, 2009 9:46 am

Kansas deserves better

For all of the apologists for Fat Man'gino, lets assume none of the allegations are true.What do you do then? Do you allow this person to be a role model for the players? Is he a quality person whom you would like your child to emulate. I guess that is the most telling question.  Face it, the days of paddling are gone forever, the days of a teacher making a person urinate on themselves and then standing in front of the class for more abuse are gone.  The players are there either because of love for the game or (and) they are trying to provide themselves with options for their future. They make money for the schools. He gets paid. With classes and practices and games and injuries, do the players really need more piled upon them? Unless you have some masochistic issue I think most people would feel that you have enough to do and a good frame of mind would go a long way. Did he provide that? Did he care about the people under his rule? Could we do any better or is he the best there is for the job? Save your tears . At the very least these jobs aren't being shipped out of the country.

Since: Dec 7, 2006
Posted on: December 4, 2009 9:39 am

Kansas deserves better

This has got to be one of the funniest posts I've read all year!!

Since: Dec 21, 2007
Posted on: December 4, 2009 9:28 am
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Since: Nov 17, 2009
Posted on: December 4, 2009 9:26 am

Kansas deserves better

If you think Mangino is a verbal abuser of players, you should stay far way from a Rich Rodgiguez practice or you might be offended.

Since: Oct 8, 2006
Posted on: December 4, 2009 9:00 am

Sportsline deserves better

Than these horrible writers...........

Since: Sep 14, 2009
Posted on: December 4, 2009 8:59 am

Kansas deserves better

Thursday Night Chatter

So Mark Mangino is also out at Kansas. Considering how much he won at a school with precious little big-time winning, I figure a number of folks must have been gunning for him.

Like ex-players. And administrators.

The next Kansas coach is a slam-dunk -- Randy Edsall of UConn. He worked with the Kansas AD when Lew Perkins was at UConn. Or so the story goes.

Since: Apr 5, 2009
Posted on: December 4, 2009 8:54 am

Kansas deserves better

As a Missouri Tiger fan I am glad that Mangino left KU. He was making the KU football program better.

His biggest mistake was making football relivant at a basketball school. His problems started when his football players would not take it from the basketball players. The AD could not handle the football players standing up to the basketball players. The basketball program did not want to lose their stranglehold over the athletic department budget.

Since: Dec 28, 2006
Posted on: December 4, 2009 8:21 am

Kansas deserves better

Well put.  This decision by Kansas is unfair and makes no sense.  It is difficult for me to believe that his methods were that different from a host of other coaches.  I remember when my coach was grossly unfair to me before the entire team.  I took it like a man and learned from it.  The other players wondered why I didn't walk out.  I also forgave the coach and respected him to the end of his life.

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