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Kansas deserves better

Posted on: December 3, 2009 8:32 pm
Edited on: December 3, 2009 9:42 pm
Mark Mangino will never be a head coach again, not at this level.

Not at a place like Kansas where he took a basketball school to the Orange Bowl.

Not in the Big 12, where just two years ago he became national coach of the year. It is both troubling and just that Mangino is gone after allegations of verbal and physical abuse of his players. Troubling because if allegations are true, then dozens of coaches and players are guilty of staying silent -- for years.

Only during a season-ending seven-game losing streak did word leak out. Troubling because those same coaches and players were too intimidated to say anything, worried about losing their scholarships or their jobs.

Who knows how many other players and coaches have been put in this situation at other schools? At Kansas, a code of silence enabled a flawed man to allegedly belittle his players. The decision to get rid of the coach is just, because Mangino had to be stopped.

His methods went beyond tough love or aggressive coaching. If only a fraction of the episodes are true -- many will never come to light -- then Mangino has been in denial about his conduct for too long. At this point it seems that the terms of the settlement will keep us from ever knowing the true extent of the alleged abuse. Reports have some of the conduct going back decades to a high school job for Mangino in Pennsylvania.

We can only hope that Mangino becomes a better man. As a coach, he was a discliplinarian, a trait that belied his 400-pound frame. Based on the allegations, anger management counseling might be in order. Let's hope his alleged victims recover too. Now it's time to move on.

Buffalo's Turner Gill is a perfect replacement. Right now, he is No. 1 on AD Lew Perkins' list.

The interest, it seems, is mutual.

A good coach -- and a better man -- for Kansas is waiting in the wings.

Category: NCAAF
Tags: Kansas

Since: Nov 6, 2008
Posted on: December 4, 2009 12:13 am

Kansas deserves better

KU desrves a better AD.

Since: Dec 1, 2009
Posted on: December 3, 2009 11:59 pm

Kansas deserves better

If you fired every head coach that was verbally abusive to their kids i don't think there would be many coaches left out there. Even though he might have gone a little overboard, we do not know for sure what these allegations are true. Most colleges would overlook this type of charector for wins or a relevent program. If colleges would not hire a coach for his prior behavior at a different college, how did Bob Knight get that job at Texas Tech. And even though he is a big man what does that have to be with how he coaches. I think in every article that i have read they have said something about his weight which is irrelevent to the situation.

Since: Oct 22, 2007
Posted on: December 3, 2009 11:56 pm

Kansas deserves better

Dodd is a Mizzou alum, so you obviously know what you're talking about. Mangino did some great things for KU, but apparently he did some other things that were far worse. Just because someone can create a winning program doesn't mean they can violate a person physicaly or emotionaly.

Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: December 3, 2009 11:41 pm

Kansas deserves better

better????? better than 2nd in the north, and still get to the orange bowl. how do you get any better than that? better be careful what you think you deserve because before that fatgino you were nobody's in the ncaa football world. sounds a little like the notre dame firing and i don't think either of you will do better than what you had. Bad move for ku you are now, once again off the football map.

Since: Apr 21, 2009
Posted on: December 3, 2009 11:16 pm

Kansas deserves better

Gill? What a joke. He deserves better than Kansas

Since: Feb 9, 2007
Posted on: December 3, 2009 11:01 pm

Kansas deserves better

What did this guy's demeanor, ego, and personality suddenly change overnight?  He is a head football coach for christ's sake.  The success that he has brought must have outshone his willful behavior.  I feel sorry for the players that think football should be a gentleman's sport.  Every successful team that I have been a part of was run by a loud, nerve-racking, belligerent a$$.  Our teams intended on hurting you within the rules.  Vicious, savage, and blood-thirsty........a direct reflection of our coach.  He would abuse your senses and assault your manhood.  We'll have to see how the search for a new coach goes before this can be judged as a bad parting.  I really have to wonder if the incidents with the bball team played any factor in the release of the early reports.  But it is done and a new chapter will be written.  

Since: Apr 2, 2009
Posted on: December 3, 2009 11:01 pm

Kansas deserves better

Dodd, you suck at writing and life.  You know nothing about KU so stop acting like you do.

Since: Nov 27, 2008
Posted on: December 3, 2009 10:39 pm

Kansas deserves better

Wow, that's a thought. I can't stand Notre Dame, but I'd actually root for the Irish if it hired someone like Mangino. Only problem, though, is how the church would view someone who allegedly is abusive.

Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: December 3, 2009 10:26 pm

Kansas deserves better

Turner Gill is a better coach? The guy had a losing record @ Buffalo this year. Mangino may have acted like a bully, but he can coach  and has proven it. How do we know Gill's a better man?

How can anyone take Dodd seriously when he stated emphatically that Ty Willingham was a good coach, then he proceeded to have a winless season? The guy wins 11 games in 4 years and he's a good coach? I mean Washington University had a winning traditon and Ty in 4 years destroyed that.

Dennis Dodd is a total neanderthal. He praised Willingham without any merit. He took Gundy to task for standing up for his players and an incompetent female journalist and now he bashes Mangino?

It's psudo-journalists like Dodd that make the media so disliked and mistrusted. This web site should learn from some of the AD's who just cut their losses. Dodd will have another job waiting for him though. The local shopper needs someone to cover Christmas shopping at the mall. That's about all he qualified to cover.

Since: Jul 20, 2008
Posted on: December 3, 2009 10:23 pm

Either way this stinks.

So what exactly happened here? Who is to blame? Did KU cop out and get rid of a competant coach after a rough season, or were they covering for his abusive ways while they were winning? Aparently there is a long history of his rude behavior according to what Dodd has written above. So why was it acceptable for all these years going back to his high school coaching days until finally this season it was too much? The answer: 5-7

This situation sounds alot like our situation here at NU in 2007. Our AD Steve Pederson was suddenly an abusive tyrant around the office after our worst home loss since the 1960s agains Okie St. And just that summer he and Bill Callahan had been given contract extensions! Then we hear how Pederson had been a jerk for years and years. If so, why did people accept these allegations only after the football team came off three bad losses? (USC, Mizzou, Okie St.)

I guess we are all hypocrites when it comes to athletics. You're only a jerk if you're losing. Look at Pederson now. Pitt was more than happy to have him back, and they are good in most major sports. Anyone from Pitt want to call him a jerk now? Or are you waiting until you have a bad season???????

Anyway, good luck Turner Gill if you are the man they hire. There is no questioning your character!

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