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The Fiesta Bowl situation

Posted on: December 7, 2009 3:07 pm
Edited on: December 7, 2009 4:43 pm

I want to believe the Fiesta Bowl is breaking new ground with matching TCU and Boise against each other. It has more than a 35-year history of thinking out of the box.

Remember Miami-Penn State in 1987? That was a Fiesta-arranged meeting between No. 1 and No. 2. Right or wrong, Louisville filled a void in 1991 when the Martin Luther King holiday controversy raged.

So what are we supposed to make of TCU-Boise State? The bowl says the game is a ratings winner for TV. The stats say that last year’s Poinsettia Bowl between the same two teams was the 15th highest rated bowl.

The bowl says it’s a chance to match up a couple of unbeaten non-BCS teams. In that sense, Orrin Hatch, the schools, the Mountain West and Congress can’t complain. The alternative was playing a two-loss team from a major conference.

That’s what TCU and Boise probably wanted but neither school can complain either. They are playing the highest ranked team available -- except that they aren’t. The ideal matchup would be TCU vs. Cincinnati. But as executive director John Junker explained Cincinnati is like a long-distance girlfriend, not very geographically desirable.

OK, so this isn’t the best matchup. It isn’t particularly a TV ratings winner either, although TCU-Cincinnati would be worse.

Here’s a working theory based on nothing but conjecture …

 There was some low-level pressure from spin doctor Ari Fleischer, the BCS’ p.r. king, to keep the kids away from the adult table. That’s assuming that Fleischer knew enough about the system to suggest a Boise-TCU game. (Nothing personal, Ari. Ninety-nine percent of the country doesn’t get the BCS.)

The point being, that such a game would reduce the yelp from critics to almost zero.

 The four BCS bowl directors “colluded” to dump TCU and Boise in the desert. That keeps the embarrassment factor for all the BCS bowls to a minimum.

 With Cincinnati, Boise and TCU in separate bowls, the possibility exists of three unsettling upsets by non-traditional programs. Now the number is down to one, if Cincy beats Florida in the Sugar Bowl.

I don’t give the BCS bowl honchos that much credit. They’re in this for the individual gain of their bowls. If they’re in the business of helping other bowls, this instance would be the first time ever.

On the other hand, the Fiesta wasn’t exactly crowing (privately, that is) about having to take Utah in 2004 and Boise in 2006. Suddenly, a school with 40,000 living alumni (TCU) and one from the Idaho hinterlands (Boise) are appointment television?

Something doesn’t fit here.

Final verdict: We’ll have to take the Fiesta at its word. At the end of the day, it’s trying to get as many people in the Valley of the Sun for as long as possible to spend a lot of money.

As a fan, the alternatives – Iowa-Boise, Iowa-TCU – don’t do much for me. We already know that Boise and TCU are probably better than Iowa.

Now if one of those schools were matched up against Florida in the Sugar Bowl?

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Since: Jun 10, 2009
Posted on: December 7, 2009 5:52 pm

The Fiesta Bowl situation


Since: Dec 5, 2008
Posted on: December 7, 2009 5:52 pm

The Fiesta Bowl situation

Will someone please send all of the Iowa fans back to the corn fields and take away their internet access.Rough words from someone that calls FARMINGTON, MN home.

Since: Dec 7, 2009
Posted on: December 7, 2009 5:50 pm

The Fiesta Bowl situation

basically herei sthe way I see it. TCU had to be in the Fiesta Bowl. By pairiing Boise State with TCU the head BCS honchos dont have to worry about people criticizing them leaving out Boise State and the Fiesta Bowl is not a legitimate game now in the sense that it does not size up the ability of the midmajors verse BCS teams. It is a win-win for BCS assholes

Since: Sep 18, 2006
Posted on: December 7, 2009 5:49 pm

The Fiesta Bowl situation

So Iowa won at Penn State, at Wisoncsin, and at Michigan State. They also lost to Northwestern and Ohio State.

TCU won at Clemson, at Virginia, at BYU, at Air Force, and against Utah. They didn't lose.

So of the ranked teams that Iowa actually beat, Penn State is one spot ahead of BYU and Wisonsin is two spots behind Utah.

Boise State went undefeated and beat Oregon who crushed USC that beat OSU.  Now we'll get to see Oregon head to head against the Buckeyes in the Rose Bowl. So basically Boise State beat a team ranked above both teams that beat Iowa.

So I guess my question is, how can you possibly come to the conclusion that Iowa is "much better than TCU or Boise State" when there's no evidence to support it? Iowa is lucky they don't actually have to prove it on the field against TCU or Boise because odds are good that it would just be yet another embarrassment for the Big Ten.

Since: Nov 12, 2009
Posted on: December 7, 2009 5:48 pm

The Fiesta Bowl situation

This is absolutely absurd and their reasoning for this isn't a legitimate reason. This is supposed to be a good matchup and good for selling out the game and getting good ratings? TCU only sold out one home game! Just one! That is not impressive. What makes you think they are going to be able to get enough fans to travel to Arizona and sell out their seats? We all know that Boise State's fans will travel as they did when they faced Oklahoma in their first BCS game. I agree that this is an interesting matchup, but I would much rather see TCU in the Sugar Bowl against Cincinnati and Boise State in the Fiesta Bowl against Florida. This would be better for the BCS and better for those who want to see a playoff. If Boise State was able to beat Florida then that would be huge for playoff supporters and then no matter who won in the Cincinnati vs TCU matchup, as long as it was a close game, it would make it look good for a playoff. But instead we will never know just how good TCU and Boise State are. Because if it is a close game then they can just say that it was two mid majors that were equally talented but not good enough to play the major conference teams. The BCS once again finds a way to completely screw over college football fans.

Since: Jun 30, 2009
Posted on: December 7, 2009 5:46 pm

The Fiesta Bowl situation

Instead of all this complaining about the NON-BCS conferences getting no respect and all this talk about playoffs why dont we take some of the ideas from other sports like "RELEGATION" and demote some of the crappy BCS conference teams out of a major BCS conference and move a NON BCS team in. Move Boise State into the PAC-10 and move Washington over to the WAC until they can play their way back into a major conference. This would make the end of every season even more fun trying to see which teams would get promoted up and which teams would get demoted out.


Since: Jul 5, 2009
Posted on: December 7, 2009 5:46 pm

The Fiesta Bowl situation

This is way people hate the BCS. Championships are not won on the field on FBS college football, but rather won by money, presitge and polls mostly voted by people who benefit from the money from the BCS. Do the powers that be of the BCS think us, the general fans think are stupid? We all know why you put Boise and TCU in this bowl, your scared of these non-bcs teams coming in and beating up Florida like Utah did to Alabama last year. Complaining about it won't fix the problem, but maybe boycotting it will. That's right, I will not watch one second of any of the BCS bowl games because college football needs a playoff and I just dont care about the games. Bad tv ratings mean less money for the BCS and if these BCS bowl games get bad ratings maybe that will send a message.

Since: Feb 4, 2008
Posted on: December 7, 2009 5:45 pm

The Fiesta Bowl situation

TCU has beaten the ACC runner up, Clemson, on the road. Three ranked teams, BYU, UTAH, and CLemson, two of the three on the Road. Boise beat the Pac Ten Champions, and a Nevada team that was rushing for 400 yards per game. Really, you want to talk about who ahs beaten who...some one please compair TCU's schedule with Texas. Texas played an Oklahoma team without Bradford only one by three, then a Nebraska team basically at home and one by three. TCU has beaten much better competition then Texas, FLorida, or Alabama

Since: Mar 21, 2009
Posted on: December 7, 2009 5:45 pm

The Fiesta Bowl situation

Hey moron moose the Hawkeyes have fans all over the country including me.  Who exactly has TCU beaten again?  
Do you mean Oregon would beat Iowa by 3 TD's just like they did lowly Purdue? /S 

Since: Nov 20, 2008
Posted on: December 7, 2009 5:41 pm

The Fiesta Bowl situation

The Fiesta Bowl picked the two teams that makes the BCS nervous and matched them together to save face for the BCS. Isn't it interesting that instead of putting TCU or Boise State against a Alabama, Texas, Cincinnati or even Florida the BCS cops out and repeats last years Poisettia Bowl game and has them play each other. It was one of the best bowl games to watch last year but come on, give them each a chance to play the big boys and burst some bubbles. I believe that the BCS is afraid of something like that (Can you imagine telling Coach Saban that he has to play another Mountain West Conference team in TCU) and forcing their hand to add the Mountain West Conference or a playoff system instead of this mess. TCU or Boise State could give Alabama a run just like Utah did last year. It's funny how the Utah/Alabama game gets covered up like it was a mistake but Utah came in and soundly beat them. In fact bothe Utah and Boise State have never lost a BCS game, why does that get lost in the background?The good thing is that TCU only loses a few players and Dalton and company will be back next year. Watch out BCS, your bubble is going to pop sooner or later.

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