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The Fiesta Bowl situation

Posted on: December 7, 2009 3:07 pm
Edited on: December 7, 2009 4:43 pm

I want to believe the Fiesta Bowl is breaking new ground with matching TCU and Boise against each other. It has more than a 35-year history of thinking out of the box.

Remember Miami-Penn State in 1987? That was a Fiesta-arranged meeting between No. 1 and No. 2. Right or wrong, Louisville filled a void in 1991 when the Martin Luther King holiday controversy raged.

So what are we supposed to make of TCU-Boise State? The bowl says the game is a ratings winner for TV. The stats say that last year’s Poinsettia Bowl between the same two teams was the 15th highest rated bowl.

The bowl says it’s a chance to match up a couple of unbeaten non-BCS teams. In that sense, Orrin Hatch, the schools, the Mountain West and Congress can’t complain. The alternative was playing a two-loss team from a major conference.

That’s what TCU and Boise probably wanted but neither school can complain either. They are playing the highest ranked team available -- except that they aren’t. The ideal matchup would be TCU vs. Cincinnati. But as executive director John Junker explained Cincinnati is like a long-distance girlfriend, not very geographically desirable.

OK, so this isn’t the best matchup. It isn’t particularly a TV ratings winner either, although TCU-Cincinnati would be worse.

Here’s a working theory based on nothing but conjecture …

 There was some low-level pressure from spin doctor Ari Fleischer, the BCS’ p.r. king, to keep the kids away from the adult table. That’s assuming that Fleischer knew enough about the system to suggest a Boise-TCU game. (Nothing personal, Ari. Ninety-nine percent of the country doesn’t get the BCS.)

The point being, that such a game would reduce the yelp from critics to almost zero.

 The four BCS bowl directors “colluded” to dump TCU and Boise in the desert. That keeps the embarrassment factor for all the BCS bowls to a minimum.

 With Cincinnati, Boise and TCU in separate bowls, the possibility exists of three unsettling upsets by non-traditional programs. Now the number is down to one, if Cincy beats Florida in the Sugar Bowl.

I don’t give the BCS bowl honchos that much credit. They’re in this for the individual gain of their bowls. If they’re in the business of helping other bowls, this instance would be the first time ever.

On the other hand, the Fiesta wasn’t exactly crowing (privately, that is) about having to take Utah in 2004 and Boise in 2006. Suddenly, a school with 40,000 living alumni (TCU) and one from the Idaho hinterlands (Boise) are appointment television?

Something doesn’t fit here.

Final verdict: We’ll have to take the Fiesta at its word. At the end of the day, it’s trying to get as many people in the Valley of the Sun for as long as possible to spend a lot of money.

As a fan, the alternatives – Iowa-Boise, Iowa-TCU – don’t do much for me. We already know that Boise and TCU are probably better than Iowa.

Now if one of those schools were matched up against Florida in the Sugar Bowl?

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Since: Jan 28, 2007
Posted on: December 8, 2009 11:20 am

The Fiesta Bowl situation

How many bowls did the Big Ten win last year?

Oh yeah, one.

I'm a Big XII fan, and I know what the Hell I'm talking about ...

Since: Jan 28, 2007
Posted on: December 8, 2009 11:18 am

Iowa just isn't that good ...

... the Hawkeyes barely beat Northern Iowa - at home.

Since: Sep 3, 2006
Posted on: December 8, 2009 11:13 am
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Since: Apr 29, 2007
Posted on: December 8, 2009 11:00 am

The Fiesta Bowl situation

Northwestern scored one offensive TD and one FG against the Hawkeye defense.  I would say we were very successful at slowing them down.  The problem was our starting QB went out in the first half and the offense couldn't score enough points with the backup.  And the play that injured the starting QB was a fumble in the endzone that resulted in a TD.

Now I'm not saying that Iowa's D would shut down Boise State like the other poster did.  However, they have a very good D and would be up for the challenge.  Might want to get your facts straight about the Northwestern game though before using that as the basis of your comparison.

Since: Aug 27, 2006
Posted on: December 8, 2009 9:42 am

The Fiesta Bowl situation

I'm going to clear this "no one is going to watch Iowa" thing right up.  Iowa plays more games on National tv than any other Big 10 school.  They are on ESPN/ESPN2 or ABC every week.  I guess that's because those little stations don't like to make money, right?!  They know they won't get ratings, but they just enjoy seeing Iowa play, right?! 

People will watch the Orange Bowl for many reasons.  People who think Iowa stinks and doesn't deserve to be there will tune in to see them get beat.  People who think Iowa deserves it will watch to see how they compete in a BCS bowl.  Real fans will tune in just to watch football on a Tuesday night.

And by the way, Iowa has won 10 games this year.  They played 5 top 25 teams and won 4 of them.  Yeah, they played down in a few games, but they still won those, didn't they.  I saw Alabama barely beat a mediocre Tennessee team by blocking a field goal.  Do they then not deserve the game they are in?  They absolutely deserve it because they won all their games.  Iowa deserves it because they are clearly the best option available to fill that last spot and not only do they travel, but this decade they have done extremely well in their bowl games.

So, for those that come on here and spout this team will beat this team without any basis for it other than playing two completely different schedules, here are facts (see above) for you to chew on.  Iowa deserves their spot, they earned it, and they are going to the Orange Bowl, yes, that's a fact, also!

Since: Mar 21, 2009
Posted on: December 8, 2009 9:05 am

The Fiesta Bowl situation

BigdaddyQ, Iowa only has the experience of 1 game against a Pac 10 opponent this year, but outside of Iowa State it was Iowa's easiest win all year.  That's right.  Arizona who finished 2nd in the Pac 10 over your Trojans was Iowa's 2nd easiest win all year.  Easier than Northern Iowa.  Easier than Arkansas State.  What's that tell me about the Pac 10?  Not so hot.  Oh, didn't Arizona beat your precous Trojans?

Since: Nov 19, 2006
Posted on: December 8, 2009 8:45 am

The Fiesta Bowl situation

I hear the same caca out of Big 10 fans every year.  The fact is that your onference stinks.  It is slow.  It has very limited talent.  When was last time theBig 10 won a BCS game?  It will not this year.  How many bowl games did theBig 10 win last year.  I believe the answer is one.  AFter the bowl season, you can once again bend over and assume the position.  Big 10 fans shold be used to that by now.

Since: Mar 21, 2009
Posted on: December 8, 2009 8:44 am

The Fiesta Bowl situation

Moose the moron you are missing the point.  The stats go out the door when you are comparing apples to oranges.  The fact is Iowa did beat Arizona, Penn State, Wisky, along with all of those others you mentioned, and yes Iowa did beat your pathetic gophers with our backup freshman qb.  Boise and TCU would not have beat all those teams I guarantee it.  I shouldn't have to tell you this, but did you even realize that your mediocre Gophers actually beat Air Force by more than TCU did?  You are a lousy fan. 

Since: Jul 15, 2009
Posted on: December 8, 2009 8:04 am

The Fiesta Bowl situation

wow dodd way to lay the wood on iowa
iowa not as good as boise?
you really do not like the big IO do you dodd?

Since: Dec 2, 2006
Posted on: December 8, 2009 6:06 am

The Fiesta Bowl situation

Ga-Tech vs. Iowa......yawn, wake me up once Dwyer hits 200+ yards rushing and Tech rolls the Hawkeyes worse than the Tide smacked UF. Dude, did you happen to snooze through the last couple weeks? After (5th-in-the-East)South Carolina smoked Clemson, (4th-best) UGA smoked GT, and neither one smoked the other last weekend, it's a safe bet that the ACC isn't that good this year .

Iowa's struggles all season long say they aren't spectacularly great, but that record says they aren't bad, either. I think that's probably a good competition. It might be one of the better games in the bowls. And I suspect Iowa wins it with good defense.

And, frankly, if someone is foolish enough to give it to you straight up,
a) Bet against the ACC
b) Bet for the SEC.

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