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Feel the earth move, college football

Posted on: February 10, 2010 12:26 pm
Edited on: February 10, 2010 12:53 pm
 

Expansion: It's coming and it's coming soon.

The latest round of rearranging the deck chairs on college football's luxury liner. You saw it in December when the Big Ten went out of its way to announce it was looking into expansion. The conservative, staid, reclusive (Walnut Park, Calif.?) Pac-10 then shook things up Tuesday by saying it is ready to "seriously" look at expansion.

I talked to a few people on Wednesday and an analysis piece is forthcoming later today, but suffice to say this comes down to three key elements at the moment:

Missouri to the Big Ten.

Colorado to the Pac-10 (as one of two expansion teams).

The Big 12 to the Rolodex to see who is interested in joining its fractured conference.

If the Large Dozen loses two teams, that damages its chances to negotiate for lucrative contracts when its TV deals come due in the next three years. Then as the Big 12 scrambles to stay together, it robs from the poor (TCU? Houston?) TV consultant Neal Pilson told me this latest round of upheaval means that the core of college football may be limited to 40 schools.

"The colleges better be careful  that they don't get what they're asking for," Pilson said, "that is complete freedom to make TV deals because TV is basically interested in the big schools. I'm talking about the bigger schools within the big conferences. I think the magic number is probably 30 to 40."

That's essentially what Comrade Ratto wrote today, cutting to the chase with machete as usual.

Comments

Since: Dec 1, 2007
Posted on: February 12, 2010 3:26 pm
 

Feel the earth move, college football

I don't get this deluded notion of Oklahoma moving to the North.
Yeah it turns the Nebraska rivalry back ON but it destroys THE greatest rivalry game of the year losing the 'Red River Rivalry' to an every other year affair will NEVER happen!!!

I do like the idea of BYU joining the B12 North to replace Mzzou, I think that would make for some interesting conference games.

The clear choices for the Pac 10 is Boise State as a North, and Utah as a South. Colorado is already in a BCS conference, geographically it doesn't make sense. Boise and Utah have clearly shown they belong in an auto BCS conf.



Since: Nov 23, 2008
Posted on: February 10, 2010 8:05 pm
 

Feel the earth move, college football

Who cares if Missouri and Colorado leave?  I know I don't.  I say try to add Arkansas and Houston if that where to happen.  Those are the 2 old SWC schools that had the most athletic success that didn't make the move to the Big 12.  I know it is not likely that Arkansas would leave the SEC but its worth a try.  Who knows maybe they miss their old rivalries and actually being relevent in football.  A move back to the Big 12 would re-open that Texas pipeline that made them so succesful years ago.  I know Houston would say yes and I personally would love to relive the old run-and-shoot days in football and phi-slamma-jama in basketball.



Since: Nov 3, 2008
Posted on: February 10, 2010 7:55 pm
 

Feel the earth move, college football

None of the proposed scenarios will happen. Missouri won't go to the Big 10, Colorado won't go to the Pac 10. The Big XII stays as it is. The Pac 10 scrambles to woo BYU and Utah to the Pac 10 as the Big 10 goes after Kentucky and Virginia.




Since: Nov 14, 2007
Posted on: February 10, 2010 7:24 pm
 

Feel the earth move, college football

Oklahoma State would be more likely to move to the north division, if it came down to it. i can't see Texas and Oklahoma not playing each other in some seasons. i do think BYU is most likely to be the Big 12 first choice, and Utah might rather come with them, than go it alone in Pac 10.

i would be glad to see Mizzou leave for Big 10. after living in St Louis for 3 years awhile back. they got Big 10 games on ABC instead of Big 12 games anyway. i don't think any fans in the Big 12 would be sorry to see Mizzou go.

Colorado doesn't bring much to the table anymore anyway. never good in basketball, and doesn't even play baseball

i think the Big 12 would be better off with Utah & BYU.

please go away Mizzou.

someone also mentioned in a comment that these moves would really hurt Big 12 basketball. BYU & Utah, would be much better for basketball, than Mizzou and Colorado.



Since: Oct 29, 2007
Posted on: February 10, 2010 6:59 pm
 

Feel the earth move, college football

What really makes sense to me is Pitt to Big 10/11 while CO and BYU go to Pac 10 and TCU moves to Big 12 with OK moving to Big 12 North.  Pitt is a natural opponent to Penn St.  Further, Bost College can move into Pitt spot and WV can become part of ACC.



Since: Jun 12, 2008
Posted on: February 10, 2010 6:40 pm
 

Feel the earth move, college football

Adding BYU and Utah makes a lot of sense geographically, but BYU won't play on Sundays which will prevent the Pac-10 from taking them.



Since: Jul 3, 2008
Posted on: February 10, 2010 6:20 pm
 

Feel the earth move, college football

The easiest thing to do would be for the Pac 10 to take both BYU and Utah and nobody else move.  That would make it easy to have a North (WA, OR, Bay) and South (AZ, LA, UT) division and keep the intterstate rivals.  Who knows.

As far as the OU to the North question, remember they use to be part of the Big 8 which was essentially the Big 12 North plus the Oklahoma schools.  I could see adding both of them again if Colorado and Missouri left and the South added TCU and BYU.  



Since: Jan 24, 2010
Posted on: February 10, 2010 5:49 pm
 

Feel the earth move, college football

I agree with everything you said but just have a question. Why Oklahoma to the North? Why not another Big 12 South school?



Since: Nov 9, 2008
Posted on: February 10, 2010 4:42 pm
 

Feel the earth move, college football

I like most of your predictions, but have the following tweaks: 

Missouri to the Big Ten
Colorado to the Pac Ten
Utah to the Pac Ten
BYU to the Big 12 North
Oklahoma to the Big 12 North
TCU to the Big 12 South
Boise State to the Mountain West
Fresno State to the Mountain West
Hawaii to the Mountain West

I don't think Boise State has the facilities or the acadmices or the school endowment to make the move to a BCS conference.  BYU would be a better fit in the Big 12 which may have two openings if Colorado and Mizzou bolt.  TCU makes sense in the Big 12 south from a travel perspective, and it adds a strong baseball team for the conference (as well as an obviously strong football team).  I think the Mountain West goes after the WAC to make up for all the losses, possibly obliterating that conference all together. 



Since: Mar 11, 2009
Posted on: February 10, 2010 2:14 pm
 

Feel the earth move, college football

Here's my scenario (which has about a 0.0001% chance of happening):

Missouri to the Big Ten
Colorado to the Pac Ten
Utah to the Pac Ten
Boise State to the Big 12 North
Oklahoma to the Big 12 North
TCU to the Big 12 South

Great for football, not so sure about other sports, especially Big 12 basketball.



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