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Big Ten expansion at the speed of light ...

Posted on: March 2, 2010 11:20 am
Edited on: March 3, 2010 11:04 am

If this were a child birth, the head would be showing.

Big Ten expansion is moving along faster than Joy Behar's mouth. The Chicago Tribune is reporting that it makes financial sense for the league to add any one of at least five candidates -- Notre Dame, Missouri, Rutgers, Syracuse or Pittsburgh.

The story goes on to say those are only the "obvious" candidates. There could be others. In a sidebar, Rutgers is identified as the favorite! Missouri is second and Pittsburgh is third.

Whoa, slow down. I thought we were only in the discussion stage. Based on what has broken in the last few days, we're going to know a 12th Big Ten/11 team by the summer. Maybe more. The league isn't going to necessarily stop at one. If the Big 12 and Big East weren't on alert before, they are now.

This report answers a key question I had about this whole thing: Which of those schools bring enough to the table financially to guarantee a minimum $22 million payout per year. This tells me that the Big Ten TV partners -- Big Ten Network, CBS and ABC/ESPN -- have signed off on expansion as a profit center.

The Big Ten has hired an investment firm to analyze candidates. Last week Wisconsin AD Barry Alvarez was quoted as saying the league had hired a research firm to look at 15 potential candidates. Alvarez the right school or schools would have to "buy their way in" to the Big Ten.

At least he was being honest about it.

I talked to a source familiar with the Pac-10 who said he isn't sure that league will do anything. Unlike the Big Ten, there aren't the slam dunk candidates out there. Utah and Colorado, for example, don't deliver that much to a 12-team league even with the addition of a championship game. He reminded me that Pac-10 fans, in general, don't travel well. What if you have, say, an Arizona-Stanford championship game?

Here's my overview from last month.

Keep those seat belts fastened. There's going to be turbulence. For sure.



Since: Jan 6, 2010
Posted on: March 3, 2010 3:53 pm

Big Ten expansion at the speed of light ...

You might be hearing about the Big East raid if you lived in a market to have more than Big ten network TV contract.

Since: Aug 28, 2008
Posted on: March 3, 2010 3:53 pm

Big Ten expansion at the speed of light ...

vasteelrfan, I'm not sure what you are talking about when you say academics don't make money in a big way. 1. Donations/Endowments 2. Research money. Way more money per single year then 10 Football/Basketball seasons put together. You have to understand that research is academics and academic research is worth hundred's of millions of dollars. Endowments fund new buildings, programs, which fund new research dollars. Football is a blip dollarwide to reasearch colleges, just ask Harvard. The big ten has all their schools in the top 50 resersch schools in america. Big East has three.

Since: Apr 5, 2009
Posted on: March 3, 2010 3:50 pm

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"Head to head the big east would eat the big 10's lunch in all major sports"

That is the funniest thing I have ever read.

Football-- the big east is a joke
Basketball--maybe but we went 2-1 against the big east in the tourney last year (in a bad year for us and one of your "best yrs ever" and of course you are going to have more good teams when you have 5 more teams total
Baseball--- neither is really worth a damn or cares
Wrestling--- your allstar team couldnt beat Iowa
Womens basketball--- ok Uconn is good big deal if you claim this we will take womens volleyball
Hockey-- we dominate you

I am missing some sports but you said major..... where is the domination from the mighty Big East?

Since: Sep 30, 2006
Posted on: March 3, 2010 3:47 pm

Big Ten expansion at the speed of light ...

What is "your team" that likes to throw passes and win games?  Did you watch any bowl games this past season?  If you did, you saw the Big-10 pounding on schools from other reputedly superior football conferences.  That G-Tech team that was supposed to be too much for Iowa looked slower and outgunned on both sides of the line; OSU beating a clearly overmatched Pac-10 champion in Oregon; PSU over LSU; Wisconsin over Miami.....I'm sensing a pattern and it's not LOSE LOSE LOSE.  The academic argument in each of those match-ups would have been even more lopsided in favor of each B-10 school.   

Since: Dec 18, 2007
Posted on: March 3, 2010 3:44 pm

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R U Nuts? Have you looked at the populations of Nebraska and Kansas? Not exactly huge TV markets. And Missouri has a LOT of professional competition for the sports dollar in football and baseball. Trust me, if Rutgers went to the Big 10 they would capture a lot more eyeballs than would the wide open spaces of Nebraska and Kansas. Missouri could happen, but those two? Nevah!

Since: Jan 7, 2010
Posted on: March 3, 2010 3:31 pm

Big Ten expansion at the speed of light ...

Rutgers to the BIG 10 is a complete JOKE.    What is wrong with you people?   Do you really believe that RUTGERS has a following???   Have they ever been good @ anything???  Do you really think they'll command high television ratings with the NY market?? Heres what's going to happen.   The Big 10 will grab 3 teams:   Nebraska, Missouri, and Kansas.

You bring in three STATE SCHOOLS, that would control each of the respected states television ratings.    You create 14 teams and you get your playoff championship each year.   You bring in KU as a basketball powerhouse, Nebraska as a football powerhouse, and Missouri who competes well in both sports.

NY television market is #1...well then why doesn't the Big 10 grab UCLA with LA being #2.    It's not going to happen.    One thing is for sure...> Missouri is heading to the Big 10.   Vegas oddsmakers have Missouri @ 2-1.... 

Since: Mar 3, 2010
Posted on: March 3, 2010 3:08 pm

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Although I think Notre Dame is the ideal candidate, for a variety of reasons, if Pitt and Rutgers don't happen, what about Iowa State?  I keep hearing Missouri, but ISU is a better academic fit and closer and they have a built-in rival.  Missouri doesn't love the Big Ten, they just hate getting the shaft from the Big Twelve. 
-Jim (Penn State grad)

Since: Aug 28, 2008
Posted on: March 3, 2010 2:28 pm

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offers are being made as we speak?  that's why there are articles all over this website about the big east expanding... I'm sure if the big east was making offers to Penn St. Ohio St. Michigan and MIchigan St. we would be hearing about it.

Since: Jan 12, 2010
Posted on: March 3, 2010 2:23 pm

Big Ten expansion at the speed of light ...

Yes, I'd love to join the Big 10,  all though my team likes to throw the football and win bowl games... does that rule us out immediately?

Big10 Athletics are so overated.   Beat up on each other and act like you are good,  then it comes time to move out of the conference and LOSE LOSE LOSE you do. 

Since: Sep 3, 2007
Posted on: March 3, 2010 1:12 pm

Big Ten expansion at the speed of light ...

Wow, goldpanther you are certainly the most intelligent poster I have found on these threads.  You say that the big east matches up aside from well almost half of the conference.  When your number one matches up to their number 6, you have a conference that is obviously overmatched through and through.

I thought that the smashing of your Big East champs at the hands of Florida would have made you realize that the Big East is the worst BCS conference, and most likely behind the WAC and MWC.  There isnt a top tier school in the whole bunch, and you yourself just named 4 teams that would win your conference every year.  Its atrocious and sad really.

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