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Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

Posted on: April 18, 2010 6:52 am
Edited on: April 18, 2010 4:17 pm
 
The timetable for Big Ten expansion may have moved up to today (April 18), the Chicago Tribune has reported.

The conference said in December it would take 12-18 months to research the expansion issue. Now, the Trib suggests, it could happen as soon as this week beginning with a Sunday meeting in Washington, D.C.. All the I-A conference commissioners will meet in Phoenix for the annual BCS meetings. Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany could inform impacted conferences at that time.

The Trib also reports, as I have suggested in recent stories, that the expansion could be by as many as three to five teams. 


You can read about more Big Ten expansion developments here.  

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Since: Nov 17, 2007
Posted on: April 19, 2010 1:24 pm
 

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

First off, saying ND refused to join twice is historically incorrect. In at least one of the two courtships, Michigan said NO is a very loud way.

Next, just forget about any of the Ohio schools. Ohio State has special dispensation that forbids the Big Ten from allowing any other school in Ohio from joining the conference.

The size of the stadium is a very minor consideration. The TV money far outweighs the net take at the gate.

Right now, there are 2 teams from each of Michigan, Indiana, Illinois and 1 team each from Pennsylvania, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa and Ohio. It will be interesting to see if the Big Ten expands its territory or adds rivalries. Both are good for business, so I would expect to see a mix, at least in the multi-add scenario.

If it is a single addition, I would bet on Iowa State.

Now, as far as expanding into the east, the only reason I can see the Big Ten tipping the balance from a Chicago centered conference to a more eastern geography is to get some love from the east coast media. Revenues would be secondary as would market penetration. Get Rutgers and eliminate the east coast sports media bias.



Since: Dec 6, 2009
Posted on: April 19, 2010 11:27 am
 

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

Skinsfan - There are more households in 3 northern NJ counties than the Kansas-Missouri-Nebraska area would bring to the B10 Network. Also NJ is included both the NYC (#1) and Philadelphia (#4) media markets.
Read up on carriage fees and what the B10 Network would get from having a team in the #1 & #4 media markets in the country.
If there is a team in the media market the B10 network more than doubles its income from carriage fees that the cable companies pay.
We're talking MILLIONS per MONTH. Syracuse, Nebraska, Pittsburgh and Missouri cannot bring in that income to the B10 network.

http://www.tvweek.com/news/2008/06/

big_ten_comcast_reach_carriage.php



Since: Jan 6, 2010
Posted on: April 19, 2010 11:27 am
 

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

Bogman...there is a major difference betewwn me making a comment about Iowa State and Notre Dame. See the Hawkeyes crushed ISU last season in Ames and in all honest. We played a crappy game and still won 35-3. yet around iowa the ISU fans say they can beat us and talk us down all the time. When the truth is, if the Iowa that played Ohio State shows up in Kinnick this year, the score will be more like 50-3. ISU fans talk more shit than just about anyone, so iowa fans just have naturally taken to it as well. Now, we will give credit where it is do. We give respect to teams that have earned it. Whats ISU done to earn anything other than another ass whoppin??

ND on the other hand thinks they are better than the rest. that they can pick and choose what sports they want to be in a conference for and what sports they dont. thats bs. if they are in the big east for basketball, guess what ND..your in the Big east for football. Dont like it...tough crap. ND beats teams and is cocky and rubs it in their faces. Yet when they get beat its always bad calls, or this or that. they have no class in south bend...and lets be honest..in the grand scheme of things. Notre Dame matters as much in college football right now as Yale or Harvard do. they are a total NON factor. Teams that will compete for the national title this year will be from the Big 10, Big 12 or SEC. Add in Boise if they run the table. Notre Dame wont even make a bowl game!



Since: Oct 11, 2006
Posted on: April 19, 2010 10:55 am
 

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

I agree that Pitt, Rutgers and ND are leading candidates but ND is holding tight to the Independant mantra still.  WVU is a no go due to academics.  There was talk when Penn States joined of WVU being a candidate and as I remember WVU was in favor but didn't meet some of the academic requirements of Big Ten schools.



Since: Sep 15, 2006
Posted on: April 19, 2010 10:42 am
 

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

I wish people would quit coming on these message boards and just throw out teams that make no sense.  I have posted this ad nauseum, but West Virginia and Cincinnati do not have the credentials to warrant Big 10 consideration, and neither does Boise St.  The only two from your five that would even be considered are Notre Dame and Nebraska, and Nebraska is a long shot at best.



Since: Aug 29, 2009
Posted on: April 19, 2010 1:20 am
 

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

I’m a Michigan man so I’m trying to think this through logically. I did most of this research earlier but rshoots stole some of my thunder before I could post it all. Given 5 by 22’s and MJBX’s statements about the Big 10 and the AAU, I did some checking.

 

All 11 of the Big 10 schools are indeed members. I then looked through the member list to see if I could find some potential schools to join the Big 10. These are what I found with their stadium capacities and TV market location.

 

Team:      
;     &nbs
p;  
Capacity:      
;   
Market Location:

Iowa State      
55.0 k      
;     &nbs
p; 
Ames, IA

Rutgers      
;     &nbs
p;
52.4 k      
;     &nbs
p; 
NY, NY

Syracuse      
;   
50.0 k      
;     &nbs
p; 
Syracuse, NY

Texas A&M     83.0 k      
;     &nbs
p; 
Bryan, TX

Colorado      
;   
53.7 k      
;     &nbs
p; 
Denver, CO

Kansas      
;     &nbs
p;
50.0 k      
;     &nbs
p; 
Topeka, KS

Missouri      
;    
71.0 k      
;     &nbs
p; 
Columbia, MO

Nebraska      
;  
81.0 k      
;     &nbs
p; 
Lincoln, NE

Pitt      
;     &nbs
p;     &nb
sp;
65.0 k      
;     &nbs
p; 
Pittsburg, PA

Texas      
;     &nbs
p;  
101.1 k      
;     
Austin, TX

Virginia      
;     
61.5 k      
;     &nbs
p; 
Charlottesville, VA

 

Notre Dame makes too much since but since they have said no twice now, I’ll exclude them. Notre Dame is not an AAU member but I’m assuming they could be if they wanted to try to meet the requirements. I think the Big 10 is looking for matches geographically as well as revenue generating possibilities. Even though I would take Texas, Texas A&M, and Colorado based on their athletic abilities, I don’t think they are good regional matches for us. I don’t think Virginia matches regionally or athletically. Iowa State and Rutgers would bring larger markets but Iowa State is a lesser match athletically as is Rutgers (neither are upgrades in any of the major sports). So this leaves us with Syracuse, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, and Pitt. All 5 bring something in one or more of the major sports and regionally would have acceptable travel distances. I was surprised to see that Syracuse played three Big 10 Schools last year.

 

I listed the TV market locations because marketing the Big 10 Network would defiantly be part of any calculation. I used the following link to envision not only the college broadcasting location, but also potential outlying areas as well. For example, I think adding Syracuse would also add the Rochester, Buffalo and Albany markets as well as some others.

 

TV Markets Link:

 

The potential of new Kansas-Missouri-Nebraska area viewers is huge if you look at the population totals.

 

So given the possibility of 5 schools, I would start with these 5.

 

Pitt

Syracuse

Nebraska

Kansas

Missouri




Since: Jul 23, 2009
Posted on: April 19, 2010 1:18 am
 

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

How about the Irish agree in to join the Big Ten conference but as long is that the Irish keep their big TV contract to themselves. Even though the Irish keep their revenue to themselve, the Big Ten conference will get much better revenue. One is because conference title game and two is 12 teams conference. Lets not worry about getting rid of some teams from Big 12 because the conference there seem perfect expect maybe one or two team. 

The Big Ten conference will look like this: East - Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue and Indiana while West - Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Iowa, Northwestern, Illinois and Minnesota.



Since: Feb 18, 2009
Posted on: April 18, 2010 10:15 pm
 

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

What a great article--picking up from a newspaper article with no proof behind it. Maybe if you interested come on over to NY and i might have a bridge to sell you for real cheap. 



Since: Apr 23, 2007
Posted on: April 18, 2010 10:02 pm
 

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

Pitt doesn't add much of a fan base.  The biggest part of Pennsylvania is already on board with PSU already in the conference.  Pitt really only adds the Pittsburgh area.  I think the Big Ten wants to get into the Northeastern part of the country and/or Notre Dame.  Expansion west into less populated areas doesn't help.



Since: Sep 20, 2009
Posted on: April 18, 2010 9:49 pm
 

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

How About App St.? clearly they can play and win vs the Big 10 elite and are in the "footprint" of the Big 10 Wink



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