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Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

Posted on: April 18, 2010 6:52 am
Edited on: April 18, 2010 4:17 pm
The timetable for Big Ten expansion may have moved up to today (April 18), the Chicago Tribune has reported.

The conference said in December it would take 12-18 months to research the expansion issue. Now, the Trib suggests, it could happen as soon as this week beginning with a Sunday meeting in Washington, D.C.. All the I-A conference commissioners will meet in Phoenix for the annual BCS meetings. Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany could inform impacted conferences at that time.

The Trib also reports, as I have suggested in recent stories, that the expansion could be by as many as three to five teams. 

You can read about more Big Ten expansion developments here.  

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Tags: Big Ten

Since: Jul 14, 2008
Posted on: April 18, 2010 2:40 pm

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

Boise State will never be invited to the Big 10, hell the New York Jets have a better chance of joining the Big 10 than Boise does.  Sorry, the time zone, stadium size, academics, and athletics (outside of football) to ever be given a chance.

Since: Nov 23, 2008
Posted on: April 18, 2010 2:26 pm

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

A lot of interesting scenarios, guys.  It would certainly make sense to add any of Neb, Missou, Iowa State, Pitt, Syracuse, Rutgers.  It would certainly depend on what rivalries they want to create/promote and which TV market they want to expand to.  I'd  have to guess they'll expand to both east and west and do it by adding even number of teams.  They'll always have a spot reserved for ND.
I believe the whole point of this expansion is to get ND into Big Ten.  They'll do so by conspiring with ACC.  The ACC commish has said that any further expansion would hinge on what Big Ten does.  ACC wanted to get Syracuse but circumstances didn't allow it.  ACC took BC for a reason and that is to expand into northeast market.  They'll need Syracuse, UConn, and maybe Rutgers at least to complete it.  So as soon as Big Ten creates a crack in Big East, ACC will come in and do the rest.  Then, ND would have no choice but to join the Big Ten or remain Independent.  Hell, ACC might offer them a spot.  why not?
It's also interesting to see what other conferences would do if Big Ten actually takes a Big12 school.  they would definitely make a run at AK. Then what would SEC do?  Eat into ACC?  oh boy. 

Since: Apr 1, 2010
Posted on: April 18, 2010 2:13 pm

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

I love some of the crazy finger pointing.  Who needs the BCS controversies when you have conference mania.

Lets pick and choose from the comments and statements being made and see if some things can make sense.  Let's start by saying I am not a Big Ten fan.  


Someone asked what academics has to do with football conferences.  Well, it has a lot to do with the Big 10.  

"The Big Ten is the only Division I conference to have all of its member institutions affiliated with the , a prestigious collection of 60 research institutions, and leads all conferences in the total amount of research expenditures.

Big Ten institutions are also, along with charter member the University Chicago, part of the , which shares a $5.6 billion research fund."  - from Wikipedia

This realignment of conference is certainly about money.  But it is not just about football and television money.  The sharing of a billion dollar research fund with the Committee on Institutional Cooperation among Big 10 institutions (+ Chicago) means that football dollars are only a part of the financial discussion for the Big Ten, as compared to most conferences.  

The Big Ten is almost assuredly going to want to maintain the distinction of having all members as part of the AAU.  But at minimum, any school would need to be a research focused institution with a likelihood of attaining membership and a commitment to working to do so.

Therefore, we need to look at AAU members who per conference (might have missed one or two):

Big 12 - Colorado, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Iowa State, Texas A&M, Texas

Pac 10 - Arizona, California, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Washington

SEC - Vanderbilt, Florida

ACC - Virginia, UNC, Duke, Maryland

C-USA - Rice, Tulane

MAC - Buffalo

Big East - Pitt, Rutgers, Syracuse

While a strong indicator of the type of school the Big Ten will want to add, the AAU membership issue must not be absolutely essential. After all, Notre Dame is not an AAU member and they have been a Big Ten pursuit for many years.  But Notre Dame has strong academics, a commitment to research, and is they type of school that would be a logical AAU member.

Who probably is NOT going to get a Big Ten invite?  West Virginia, Boise State, Cincinnati, East Carolina, Richmond, Louisville.  Those can probably be forgotten and left out of the discussion.


Since: Jun 11, 2009
Posted on: April 18, 2010 2:08 pm

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

Though your comments were not directed at me, Notre Dame has the academics and sports, but is too stubborn to move, even though they would make more money in Big Ten.  I don't see it happening soon.

Since: Sep 26, 2006
Posted on: April 18, 2010 2:07 pm

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

Woo hoo! Now is as good of a time as any to allow the Summer for the shock waves to stop rumbling by football season. I'm all for anything that would cause my FAU Owls to get an invite from another mid-major or the Big East!

Let's do this!

I say Rutgers, Missouri, Pittsburgh, Syracuse and possibly Louisville or West Virginia.  Whatever happens, the Big East is going to be hurting big time.  Even if the Big Ten robs from another conference, whoever they hit will turn to the Big East to fill their holes.

Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: April 18, 2010 2:07 pm

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

I hate the idea and I believe it is a money grab from the Big 10 to get their TV network on in way more Cable systems across the country.

My guess is (Notre Dame is driving for the larger conference) Texas, U, Conn Kentucky and Miami.

Think of the economics, you get Texas, New England and NY, Florida and two great Basketball programs in Kentucky and UConn that will secure the Big 10 as possibly the best Basketball conference each year.  

Why would they want to go?

The many extra millions that the Big 10 offers with their TV network than does all the others.   Do you think University Presidents care about anything else?

PS I even see an uneven split of revenue if Notre Dame does something creative with their NBC contract.  

The bidding war has started.

Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: April 18, 2010 1:52 pm

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

When there is a choice between Academic requirements and Dollar requirements, my choice of any of these conferences in on the almighty $.  

Small Stadiums and TV markets would eliminate someone,  a promise to upgrade the academics and size of the Library from a school with good $, like WVU or Kentucky would be accepted.   

That said I think this is a horrible idea.    12 Teams if Notre Dame wants in is fine. 

Since: Oct 16, 2006
Posted on: April 18, 2010 1:46 pm

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

Based on academics and geography, plus of course, sports programs, my best guess:

1. Missouri
2. Rutgers
3. Pittsburgh
4. Texas
5. Notre Dame, except that they will decline the invite, so then, Nebraska or West Virginia

Penn State will actually likely push to get Pitt in, as up to this point, PSU has lacked a true rivalry since coming to the Big Ten. As Penn State alum, I certainly would love to see Pitt-Penn State once again restored to its rightful place as one of the most bitter sports rivalries in college athletics!

Notre Dame is an obvious pick, but their administration continues to harbor illusions as to their stature as a sports school, epsecially as regards their football team. Their delusions of grandeur regarding a program that fell from elite status nearly two decades ago will prevent them from doing the logical thing and accepting an invitation to joining a conference that would be the most natural home for them. A shame, really.

Since: Aug 7, 2009
Posted on: April 18, 2010 1:45 pm

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

Sunonomo: Cincinnati will never join the Big Ten, OSU has a clause in their contract forbidding any other schools from the state of Ohio.

Since: Jan 6, 2010
Posted on: April 18, 2010 1:36 pm

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

Top, when i looked at it i didnt really think about the Border games. That does make a ton of sense now. As for Iowa being good in basketball again...I sure as hell hope so... McCaffery looks good as a coach..but i wont lie..i wanted Lavin!

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