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Nebraska and the Big Ten

Posted on: May 3, 2010 11:35 am
Good column here from the Omaha World-Herald on Nebraska's interest in the Big Ten.

Pay particular attention to Nebraska chancellor Harvey Perlman's answer when asked if contact has been made with the Big Ten. "I'm not going to answer that," Perlman said. Wow, interpret that as you wish. I know how I read it.

Nebraska and Missouri to the Big Ten if the Large 11 goes to at least 14. Don't ask me who the other teams would be.
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Since: Aug 27, 2008
Posted on: May 16, 2010 11:08 am

Nebraska and the Big Ten

Another series of interesting articles today (May 16) in the Omaha World-Herald. There's some good analysis. The bottom line is it looks like the Big 10, if it offers, would be a step up for Nebraska. It looks like the northern half of the Big 12 isn't bothered by the whole shift to the south in power with everything from the Big 12 championship game in football to shifting of corporate offices to the south. While the Big 12 has been good to Nebraska, it looks like the interests have shifted and Nebraska probably has more in common with Big 10 schools.

I think people in Nebraska were dead set against this initially. There's been enough information presented by the media and conversations that people are warming to the idea and actually see the benefits of Big 10 membership. If Nebraska is invited, I think it will make the move. When teams like Kansas and Missouri, which stand to benefit the most from having the Big 12 football championship game in Arrowhead vote to make it permanently in Dallas, it's obvious nobody is looking out for the northern interests. We're just lucky Texas hasn't tried to exert more clout. Even the schools that despise Texas seem to worship whatever it proposes, even when it is bad for the some of the schools' interests. Why was the vote to have the Big 12 Championship in Dallas 11-1? Why does Kansas and Missouri want the game in Dallas instead of Arrowhead?

Since: Aug 27, 2008
Posted on: May 10, 2010 3:57 pm

Nebraska and the Big Ten

At first, I didn't want to believe Nebraska would leave the Big 12. I also am coming around to the idea it could happen because I feel the Big 12 is doomed. We don't have the money to keep everyone in the conference around when other conferences start picking off members. Who could we pick off? About the only schools the Big 12 could add to try and keep the league together would be Utah, BYU or possibly UNLV or TCU. There's not a lot of population or national interest with some of those schools.
As a result, I think the Big 12 is vulnerable. There could be some great rivalries in the Big 10 and I think Nebraska will compete well in most sports, including wrestling, volleyball, women's basketball and gymnastics. At times, we have been decent in baseball, men's basketball, softball and baseball.
I think Texas holds the keys to keeping the Big 12 alive. It will have to abandon its hopes for its own network and allow the Big 12 to form a network. If not, I see the conference splitting up eventually. Ultimately, I think that will occur. Here is how I see it shaking out:
Missouri, Kansas and Nebraska join the Big 10. Big 10 also adds Pitt with Notre Dame or Rutgers. Pac 10 adds Texas, Texas A&M, Colorado and Utah. SEC adds Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. The rest of the Big 12 schools get divided up among the remaining conferences.

Since: Jan 18, 2007
Posted on: May 6, 2010 9:40 pm

Nebraska and the Big Ten

I was skeptical at first about NU to the Big 10, but I've come around.  It makes absolute sense.  NU doesn't want to sit around playing chicken with Texas anymore.  Either way, they're set to gain a lot more money whether they stay in the Big 12 or jump ship.  (Texas will probably have to buy them back with a better revenue share from here on out.)  If NU jumps, I will miss the Big 12 for sure.  I have a lot of pride in the Big 12 and love most of the matchups.  I will miss watching games at A&M, playing CU over Thanksgiving, and so forth.  Hopefully, NU would work out a deal to revive the annual OU rivalry.  I think fans of both schools have been waiting for it to happen.  But NU feels like it could quickly develop natural rivals in the Big 10 as well.  I would look forward to NU-MU, OSU, Wiscy, and of course, the Hawkeyes.  It would be a smooth transition.  And if NU joins, I think ND suddenly takes a new approach to joining as well.  That's a LOT of football history compiling in a single conference.  As far as what happens to the Big 12, I do worry.  I grew up watching the Big Eight as a kid and it'd be strange at first not seeing KU and KSU every year.  But if I have to choose between those rivalries and seeing OU start up again, I'm picking OU.  My dream scenario is Nebraska joining the Big 10 with ND and one other team (likely MU or Pitt) and NU-OU becoming an annual non-conference.  That would just be amazing.  Unfortunately for others, the Big Ten then quietly sits on a mountain watching the college football landscape change right before our eyes.  What happens to the Big 12?  SEC?  Big East?  ACC?  I won't even venture to guess beyond that.

Since: Jan 18, 2007
Posted on: May 6, 2010 9:12 pm

Nebraska and the Big Ten

I'm not going to defend the guy who brought up the 2000 game, but seriously?  Both teams have been fairly average this decade, so why bother arguing?  And Texas absolutely doesn't "whip" NU every year.  It's been one of the highest contested games on the schedule for both teams at least 3 of the last 5 meetings.  Watch the games instead of spouting bravado.  The Iowa St game last year was a wash.  If NU and Iowa met last year in a bowl, it would have been great.  NU is on the rise and Iowa is right there with them.  I would love to see this annual rivalry happen.  The first poster is an IA troll and nothing more.  He makes threads making fun of Nebraska on a regular basis.  Surprise, surprise:  he posted one here.

Since: Oct 15, 2008
Posted on: May 6, 2010 3:49 pm

Nebraska and the Big Ten

what evidence do you have to back this up....none kinda what I thought.Now, don't go on about how dominate Nebraska was in the 90's and how many National Championships they have. I know this and I agree that Nebraska used to be a powerhouse. Now days Nebraska seems to have their hands full with lowly Iowa St, so I wouldn't be on here bragging too much. All I'm saying is I think it would be a great match up. Both programs are showing signs of being very good in the years to come and I think it would be a great rivalry game.

Since: Oct 15, 2008
Posted on: May 6, 2010 3:44 pm

Nebraska and the Big Ten


Since: Oct 6, 2009
Posted on: May 6, 2010 1:22 pm

Nebraska and the Big Ten

Why would you be asking god for another loss every year, doesn't make any sense?
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Since: Dec 3, 2007
Posted on: May 5, 2010 11:27 pm

Nebraska and the Big Ten

Besides, Texas could lose any team in the North and replace them with teams and actually could be a bigger draw than the SEC. Don't think Texas couldn't poach off some SEC teams. LSU, Arkansas and both Ole Miss and MSU could all go with Texas and make one hell of conference with the rest of the Big 12. Anything is possible. Besides, that would stick a good old knife in Florida. It's all about the money isn't it? *sigh*

The Big XII offers nothing to Arkansas that they can't get in the SEC.  Period.  The Big XII will be lucky to poach mid-majors, they have no chance of getting an SEC or Big Ten team.  And no, they cannot replace any of the North teams without contracting the market.  TCU is in the Dallas media market which is #5 in the nation.  Guess what else is also in Dallas?  The Big XII headquarters.  TCU adds nothing.  What about Houston, you say?  A&M has that locked up.  The only Texas team that even remotely expands the media footprint would be UTEP.  The Big XII's only hope is to look outside the conference at Utah, New Mexico and maybe Memphis.  They at least add new markets.  The Texas schools don't.

The Big XII brought itself to this point due to its inept leadership and lack of forward thinking.  Anyone who claims to have an easy out for the conference doesn't understand the broader issues.

Since: Dec 26, 2006
Posted on: May 5, 2010 8:08 pm

Nebraska and the Big Ten

I took a look at the media markets.  Chicago is the number one market for the Big 10. Philadelphia and Detroit follow that, but then you start talking about relative size. 3 Million down where the numbers aren't quite what they appear to be on paper. It isn't the big city that causes the Big 10 to do so well in TV. It is the sheer number of people in a huge geographical area. OH is peaunts if you go by city markets, but when you toss the whole state in...then it changes.
New York's problem is sheer market saturation. The whole New York area has two pro sports teams for everything. Then add in all the universities. I think some of the other posters have it right about New York not being as big a drawing card as everything thinks. Plus, look at the recent battles over cable rights in the area. New York has everything available so I don't know about going there for some schools that really aren't big media draws already.
I will say that market wise, Nebraska doesn't make sense. Academic wise, Notre Dame isn't a member of the AAU, but other than that they fit in. Notre Dame's market is continent wide, but do they really want to give up independent status? While they haven't been a mainstay recently in football, that perception can change real fast with one good season. It may still be a step down monetarily for ND at this point. Actually, for ND to give up some games with Michigan, Michigan State might not be bad. Schedule in some good teams and ND ratings go up.
I still don't know about BC either. Pitt will go if they go to 14 or 16 teams. No question about it. Smart move for Pitt no matter how many teams go!
Iowa State has to feel kind of left out. Geographically and academically they're a good fit.
Missouri brings two top 25 markets in STL and KC plus some smaller ones with Springfield and Columbia and Joplin.
Texas isn't going. There is no way it will happen. There is still bad blood over the SWAC break up. Besides, Texas could lose any team in the North and replace them with teams and actually could be a bigger draw than the SEC. Don't think Texas couldn't poach off some SEC teams. LSU, Arkansas and both Ole Miss and MSU could all go with Texas and make one hell of conference with the rest of the Big 12. Anything is possible. Besides, that would stick a good old knife in Florida. It's all about the money isn't it?

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The other question is the other conferences. How should they go about restructuring themselves?

Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: May 5, 2010 6:46 pm

Nebraska and the Big Ten

Maybe the Big 10 can get the Detroit Lions to join.

Not a chance.  Quality of play would drag down the entire conference.   ;=)

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