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Nebraska and the Big Ten

Posted on: May 3, 2010 11:35 am
 
Good column here from the Omaha World-Herald on Nebraska's interest in the Big Ten.

Pay particular attention to Nebraska chancellor Harvey Perlman's answer when asked if contact has been made with the Big Ten. "I'm not going to answer that," Perlman said. Wow, interpret that as you wish. I know how I read it.

Nebraska and Missouri to the Big Ten if the Large 11 goes to at least 14. Don't ask me who the other teams would be.
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Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: May 5, 2010 6:07 pm
 

Nebraska and the Big Ten

Maybe the Big 10 can get the Detroit Lions to join.




Since: Apr 27, 2010
Posted on: May 5, 2010 5:35 pm
 

Nebraska and the Big Ten

Opps, one of the Pittsburgs was suppose to be Ohio State.




Since: Apr 27, 2010
Posted on: May 5, 2010 5:14 pm
 

Nebraska and the Big Ten

gloine,

By the way Texas to the Big 10? I don't see it. I don't think the Texas legislature would allow for it. I would almost bet that they would prefer to take their four Big 12 schools to the SEC. Texas by itself isn't going anywhere. That's a simple matter of Texas state politics.I at first was going to argue this but decided to do some research on it myself, and it seems you are somewhat correct due to the fact that the Longhorns and the state itself played the largest role in forming the Big 12 it would be hard for a clean divorse to happen.  Not that it couldn't ultimately the state can just hold the process up with red tape.

In reading further, I do think that it is still a possibility if the Big Ten and Texas were patient enough to wait it out.  The Longhorns&
nbsp;would make more money from the Big Tens television agreements then it currently does from the Big Twelve.  The Big Ten would love to add a national power like the Longhorns.  But I am not convinced that the Big Ten would wait for Texas, if Longhorns were interested at all. 

Expansion eastward makes more sence I think due to the immediate expansion of Big Ten Network into the large television markets northeast.  My gut tells me that the Big Ten is going to take advantage of the opportunity here to expand its footprint and TV market size over the other potential super conferences.  So here is my new scenario..........

Rutgers
Syracuse
Boston College
Pittsburg
Notre Dame

I think these make more sense, if the Big Ten had to choice between Notre Dame or Texas.   Notre Dame would be the logical choice demographically.  The only way Notre Dame comes is if they saw the Big East not surviving.  If the Big East lost Rutgers, Syracuse and Pittsburg the remaining teams more than likely would be looking to jump ship to the ACC, leaving Louisville probably as the odd man out.  This would give the Big Ten a footprint in 9 of the top 25 television markets.

#1   New York
#3   Chicago
#4   Philadelphia
#7   Boston
#11 Detroit
#15 Minnesota
#18 Cleveland
#23 Pittsburg
#25 Indianapolis

So perhaps this is how it would breakdown:

Big Ten East  - Penn State, Rutgers, Syracuse, Pittsburg, Boston College, Pittsburg, Michigan and Michigan State
Big Ten West - Wisconsin, Northwestern, Illinois, Iowa, Indiana, Minnesota, Purdue and Notre Dame

That would easily make the Big 10(16) kings of the hill.




Since: Dec 26, 2006
Posted on: May 5, 2010 3:49 pm
 

Nebraska and the Big Ten

I think I should also point out something very, very important in Mizzou athletics and part of the reason why MU has risen into the upper ranks after a very long absence. If you want a powerhouse D1 program, you have to build one. That begins with commitment. The commitment of every single person who helped make that thought into a plan is what I speak of here. I can't even begin with names. I don't want to offend anyone by leaving them out.
I'll just say that MU's Athletic Director, Mike Alden is part of that commitment. From there MU built a new training facility and stepped up its program across the board. The coaches have been brought in as part of that commitment. Gary Pinkel has done a great job with the football team. All the MU coaches have done the same.
I really think the commitment factor held MU back for many years as the sports world changed. When MU and everyone involved realized what had to be done, they went out and did it. So my hat is off to everyone involved. Without this support MU would not be involved in Big 10 talks at all. Whether it happens or not, who knows? However, with the commitment MU has made to its sports program, they are only going to be involved with the best for those programs. So I have a feeling that if the Big 10 invites Missouri, we're going.
Then we can beat up Illinois a lot more often. I like that almost as much as beating Kansas.



Since: Dec 26, 2006
Posted on: May 5, 2010 3:01 pm
 

Nebraska and the Big Ten

I agree that the Ivy League not dominating sports it would be a paradox, but then those schools don't plan to operate like a Nebraska or Ohio State in the sports market. My point is that if the players that are realistically not going to graduate college, that are only being brought to school in order to play sports are knocked out of the system by higher academic requirements, then things might change.
I point to the disaster Missouri Basketball encountered during the Quinn Snyder disaster. In a misguided effort to win and win now, he recruited thugs. It was a disgrace to the university. Four years after cleaning house, Coach Anderson has every player graduating while they constantly outperform their preseason rankings.

I do have a serious problem with the coaches getting paid like they do now. That's mostly taxpayer money and I seriously question the value of paying a coach as much as they are getting. I know it's money driven in D1. The only way to stop the madness is for the NCAA to step up and put a limit in place. I'm sure that will get taken to court faster than the healthcare bill did.

By the way Texas to the Big 10? I don't see it. I don't think the Texas legislature would allow for it. I would almost bet that they would prefer to take their four Big 12 schools to the SEC. Texas by itself isn't going anywhere. That's a simple matter of Texas state politics.




Since: Jul 2, 2007
Posted on: May 5, 2010 2:57 pm
 

Nebraska and the Big Ten

Being overlooked in this discussion is that Penn State President Graham Spanier is the former Chancellor of Nebraska.  If Nebraska is a viable choice for the Big Ten, I would guess he is involved in the back room discussions.  Another school not being mentioned is Colorado.  Once Nebraska is onboard, Colorado becomes a contiguous state to Big Ten Country.  Nebraska / Colorado / Missouri expands the conferance footprint by three states and some significant cities - Denver, St. Louis, KC, hell - even Lincoln.  If not west, south with Texas and Oklahoma - but that is a bit far-fetched even for Jim Delaney.  The B12 could lose the Buffalos - Huskers - Tigers and still survive nicely.  My money is on that direction.






Since: Apr 27, 2010
Posted on: May 5, 2010 1:14 pm
 

Nebraska and the Big Ten

Pokes,

If Nebraska goes in a package with any other Big12 Team, that will force the hand of the SEC which I believe would be invite to Texas and Tex AM and Oklahoma (and because they don't want Ok State initially, by Oklahoma law, Oklahoma State would be included).You are right that the SEC will have to expand, but they are going to wait and see what the Big Ten does.  The only reason this is happening is because of the creation of the Big Ten Network, the Big Ten holds all the cards.  At the end of the day Texas will choose to make the move to Big Ten because there will be more money for the school there, then there is in the Big 12 or SEC.  The Big Ten can take its time with this because no one is gonna do anything until they know what the Big Ten is gonna do.  I know Texas has said they are not going anywhere, but at the end of the day it will come down to revenue.  The biggest question is whether or not the Big Ten has the balls to make the move to a 16 team conference.

The Big East, as far as football goes, is a conference on the verge of extinction.  Whatever the Big Ten doesn't take the SEC and/or ACC will. 

I am all for this move and hope we are left with 4 super conferences, I think this would open the door for an eight team playoff and could spell the end of the BCS.




Since: Feb 8, 2009
Posted on: May 5, 2010 12:13 pm
 

Nebraska and the Big Ten

Pardon me.....an easier schedule?    Hmmmm-m-m .....let's see!

ESPN's pre-season poll for 2010 has...
Big Ten
2nd Ohio St
8th  Iowa
11th Wisconsin
19th PennSt

and the
Big 12
4th Texas
9th Nebraska
12th Oklahoma

.....of the Top 20

Easier schedule is definitely arguable !!      
; Tongue out






Since: Apr 20, 2010
Posted on: May 5, 2010 8:28 am
 

Nebraska and the Big Ten

NY Husker, do they let you out into the general public very often?




Since: Apr 20, 2010
Posted on: May 5, 2010 8:21 am
 

Nebraska and the Big Ten

Is it a well kept secret.  No new addition to the Big 10 will receive 22 mil the first year.  The Big 10 network was an expensive venture that was paid for equally by the ll schools.  Any new member will have to pay their way in, in some way and over some period of time.


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