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Nebraska and the Big Ten

Posted on: May 3, 2010 11:35 am
 
Good column here from the Omaha World-Herald on Nebraska's interest in the Big Ten.

Pay particular attention to Nebraska chancellor Harvey Perlman's answer when asked if contact has been made with the Big Ten. "I'm not going to answer that," Perlman said. Wow, interpret that as you wish. I know how I read it.

Nebraska and Missouri to the Big Ten if the Large 11 goes to at least 14. Don't ask me who the other teams would be.
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Since: Apr 20, 2010
Posted on: May 5, 2010 8:18 am
 

Nebraska and the Big Ten

Iowa State just doesn't add anything to the Big 10.  Sorry, I know they've been trying to get into the Big 10 for years and they just don't add enough dollars to the Big 10 bank.



Since: Apr 20, 2010
Posted on: May 5, 2010 8:09 am
 

Nebraska and the Big Ten

The bIG 10 is universities with football teams, the SEC is colleges with football teams. 



Since: Apr 20, 2010
Posted on: May 5, 2010 8:03 am
 

Nebraska and the Big Ten

Yah, that KSU, Kansas, Iowa State and Missouri can be a killer.  Those are games people actually go to see the bands.



Since: May 5, 2010
Posted on: May 5, 2010 3:25 am
 

Nebraska and the Big Ten

Here are the corrected qualifications of the Univ. of Nebraska:
Attendance Capacities: Football - 81,067, Basketball - 13,595; Rival of Mizzou



Since: May 5, 2010
Posted on: May 5, 2010 3:15 am
 

Nebraska and the Big Ten

The Big Ten is able to boast for being the only athletic conference with all schools having AAU accreditation. In order to keep this distinguishment, they will have to limit the scope of the search. The possibilities include former member University of Chicago, and more athletically known schools like Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa State, Missouri, Vanderbilt, Pittsburgh, Virginia, Maryland, Syracuse, and Rutgers. Yes, this leaves out Notre Dame, Louisville, Cincinnati, West Virginia, and Connecticut. Based on Geographic location, I would think there is a limit on how expansive Delaney would want the Conference, so as not to make his student-athletes travel much greater distances than they do now. This removes Kansas, Vanderbilt, Virginia, Maryland, Syracuse, and Rutgers. Of the remaining five, one does not have the football program to support itself, Chicago. The four remaining are all candidates to be members. Here are some qualifications of the aforementioned schools:
Iowa State Univ.: Attendance Capacities: Football - 55,000, Basketball - 14,092; Rival of Iowa; Potential Rival: Minnesota (killed Jack Trice)
Univ. of Missouri: Attendance Capacities: Football - 71,004, Basketball - 15,061; Rival of Nebraska
Univ. of Missouri: Attendance Capacities: Football - 71,004, Basketball - 15,061; Rival of Nebraska
Univ. of Pittsburgh: Attendance Capacities: Football - 65,050, Basketball - 12,508; Rival of Penn State
A question that might be asked is: Will the Big Ten choose one of these candidates, three of these candidates, or all four and another candidate outside the parameters set herein? My estimate is either all of them and Notre Dame, or only two of these and Notre Dame. My reasoning: if the Big Ten gets three teams, they will most likely be Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, and Missouri, or Pittsburgh, Missouri, and Nebraska. Iowa State has a strategic location to be invited into the Big Ten, but not the major athletic programs (basketball and football) to deserve the prestige of the conference. Nebraska may be deemed too far west of the geographic center of the conference, the State of Michigan. This might cause them to choose Notre Dame over Nebraska, even if it goes against what they are trying to uphold academically. 
I liken all four of these teams being invited along with Notre Dame.  With these five teams, it will lower the geographic center of the Big Ten to Indiana, which at least isn't changing many degrees of global longitude. The Divisions would be set up East and West, with the East comprising of Notre Dame, Purdue, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, and Pittsburgh. The West would be Northwestern, Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Iowa State, Missouri, and Nebraska. One might say that the divisions are lopsided, but rivalries are important to keep intact. This will renew more rivalries, and will bring 4 of the 6 teams who have an all-time Division 1 tally of 800 wins to the Big Ten: Michigan, Ohio State, Nebraska, and Notre Dame (the others are Texas and Miami). Despite not being part of the AAU, here are upsides for Notre Dame:
Attendance Capacities: Football - 80,795, Basketball - 9,800; Close ties to Midwest: Univ. of Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue; Rival of Pittsburgh
The call is not mine to make, and money is more of a factor than I set in my parameters (although I added attendance capacities for the ticket-selling capabilities, but I speculate that television contracts are worth more than gross ticket sales by many fold). Although I am one small voice, I hope someone takes these issues into account. This could make for the best academically and athletically oriented conference ever assembled. As a part of a multi-generational Big Ten family and a current Big Ten student, I hope that a tradition of greatness will continue, as education determines our future and these institutions should be maintained to ensure the outlook remains promising to the young adults that attend them.



Since: Dec 3, 2007
Posted on: May 5, 2010 2:01 am
 

Nebraska and the Big Ten

Why do you think Mizzou's on the way down?  Their drop-off last year was far less than predicted, many consider Blaine Gabbert to be the best qb in the conference this year, both football and men's basketball are bringing in nationally ranked recruiting classes, wrestling and gymnastics are both improved, softball and baseball are both competitive.  Just because Nebraska has improved doesn't mean that Mizzou has to go back into the toilet in response.



Since: Oct 31, 2007
Posted on: May 4, 2010 10:28 pm
 

Nebraska and the Big Ten

And I promise you that Corhusker fans would love to play in the annually over-rated BigTen every year too.  It would pretty much assure them a conference championship and big bowl every year.  The Big Ten is horrible....that's why they are trying to desperatly to gain teams...especially teams with a winning history like...um, the Huskers!



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: May 4, 2010 9:41 pm
 

Nebraska and the Big Ten

If Nebraska goes in a package with any other Big12 Team, that will force the hand of the SEC which I believe would be invite to Texas and Tex AM and Oklahoma (and because they don't want Ok State initially, by Oklahoma law, Oklahoma State would be included).    

From there, the dominoes will tumble - Notre Dame should wake up and smell the rotting rosary of their arrogance in past history and join the Big 10.   So there is 14.   Cincinatti won't be added because Ohio St is the one of the Big 3 and won't sacrifice it's stature to any other state school.   If Notre Dame doesn't join (CIC and all) then most like Rutgers (New York/New Jersey opens up) or Syracuse as 3rd choice.

The SEC will agree with Texas, TAMU, OU, and Ok State.

Colorado and Utah will join the Pac10.

I expect the Mountain West will have some political shenigans still in place and force the 5th BCS Bowl and automatic bid and wouldn't be surprised to see Houston as first replacement; addition of Texas Tech, and to get the pool of 12 for conference playoff money would take Kansas and Kansas St?   I think Boise St would be in the mix but would need another as Kansas and K-State would be a package.

The ACC and Big East could carve out some of the bigger C-USA, etc schools but really only East Carolina, Central Florida, South Florida, Southern Miss, and Troy are large enough and diverse enough to move from either Big East or smaller conference.

The Big 12 would be decimated.    I doubt it would survive as it is like trying to defend Europe when playing Risk; pointless.    The Big 12 would have to immediately shore up the survivors after losing over half the conference (Colorado to Pac10, Neb/Missouri to Big10; Tx/A&M/OU/OSU to SEC).   I would see the balance jumping to growing conferences (Tech to Mountain West) and leaving Kansas, K-State, Iowa St, and Baylor as the base.    The conference would have to react so quickly but would be a far weaker conference and maybe not even a BCS AQ Conf.     
  Targets?    Unfortunately would be small schools in major markets and potentially signaling the end of Conf USA - Tulsa, SMU, UTEP, Memphis, Arkansas St, North Texas, and one or more of the 7 Louisiana schools starting with Tulane, then Louisiana Lafayette, Northwestern, Tech, ULMonroe, etc.

Armageddon as I see it.    The power conferences of the SEC, Big10+4 (or +6), ACC, Big East, Mountain West, and Pac10 (+2).    I think a Big 12 would make a go but if Texas Tech jumps to the Mountain West - then any sort of remaining power from the conference would be gone (as far as football, baseball, and most other sports).    The fly in the ointment becomes Kansas as their basketball power suddenly is the ace in their sleeve (and maybe K-State's saving grace) to get their ticket punched to the Mountain West and if Fresno goes with Boise, that would also be 14.

Losers-Conf USA, WAC, Sun Belt, and potentially Army/Navy as conference schedules may be more demanding.   Also, mid-level BCS schools may lose any hope of breaking the glass barrier as outside of the Pac10 (which has had of the 10 schools representation by USC, UCLA, Stanford, Oregon, Washington, Wash St, and Arizona St in the last 12 years - or 7 of 10).   All of the other BCS AQ have been dominated by a few schools (Big 12-Nebraska, OU, K-State, Texas, and Kansas as an anomaly); Big 10-Ohio St, Michigan, Penn St, and Wisconsin; Iowa is the anomally there.     SEC-Tennessee, Florida, LSU, Alabama, Auburn, and Georgia (or 50% but the others have rarely been in consideration).    ACC-seriously, Florida St, Va Tech, and Miami are the marquee teams, none of the other really matter in scope especially when in the last week the champion of each division gets beaten by a mid-level SEC power.     Big East-Outside of West Virginia (which every single other team in the conference needs to be kissing WV butt for saving them not 1, not 2, but 3 times to keep the BCS AQ (Georgia in Atlanta for the Sugar; OU in the Fiesta; and more importantly beating Georgia Tech in the Gator between those two great victories which saved face before Kansas beat Va Tech in the Orange).     All the mid-level and lower level schools will languish in the beefed up tied and have the cards stacked even more against them - we may never see a Vanderbilt or Iowa St, etc in a meaningful bowl game.

I'm not for this re-alignment but don't see how it can be stopped as what needs to be done for play-off gets farther away as conferences build to secure their coffers with cash rather than moving to play-off with select deserving teams 8 or 12 or 16 and letting the rest have their same bowl games.



Since: Feb 15, 2010
Posted on: May 4, 2010 8:55 pm
 

Nebraska and the Big Ten

Being a typical anal analyst, I decided to apply some math to the Big10 expansion.  13 schools were ranked by:
Geography - total air miles to current 11 members
Academics - average of US News and Forbes rankings
Sports offered - men, women and coed
Football capacity
Basketball capacity
Market size - either local or state
Media prominence - how the school was covered in local or major newspaper 
Deductions applied for each NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL franchise in the market.

1. Missouri, score 38.0; top 4 in academics, football capacity, market size; bottom 4 in media prominence  (STL and KC)
2. Louisville, score 41.5; top 4 in geography, basketball capacity, sports offered; bottom 4 in academics, football capacity, market size
3. Memphis, score 41.5; top 4 in football capacity, basketball capacity, media prominence; bottom 4 in academics
4. Syracuse, score 43.0; top 4 in academics, basketball capacity; bottom 4 in geography
5. Nebraska, score 43.5; top 4 in football capacity; nothing in bottom 4
6. Pitt, score 44.0; top 4 in academics, football capacity, market size; bottom 4 in basketball capacity, media prominence
7. UConn, score 45.5; top 4 in academics, sports offered, media prominence, market size; bottom 4 in geography, football capacity
8. West Virginia, score 47.0; nothing in top 4; bottom 4 in sports offered
9. Kansas, score 54.0; top 4 in basketball capacity; bottom 4 in sports offered, market size (50% of KS)
10. Iowa State, score 59.0; top 4 in geography; bottom 4 in media prominence, market size
11. Rutgers, score 61.0; top 4 market size (NYC), sports offered; bottom 4 in geography, football capacity, basketball capacity
12. Cincinnati, score 65.0; top 4 in geography, bottom 4 in academics, football capacity, basketball capacity,  media prominence
13. Kansas St, score 69.0; nothing in top 4; bottom 4 in geography, academics, basketball capacity, sports offered, market size (50% of KS)




Since: Sep 27, 2006
Posted on: May 4, 2010 8:12 pm
 

Nebraska and the Big Ten

Go ahead and let it happen. Nebraska will never be a Conference Champion again.


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