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The Arizona immigration law

Posted on: May 3, 2010 9:32 pm
Edited on: May 3, 2010 9:33 pm
 
No matter what you think of it, read this before forming a final opinion.

There is talk of an All-Star Game boycott. I'm sure at some point next season's national championship game (in Glendale, Ariz.) will come into play. I'll have a take on all this in a future column but wanted to pass this along.
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Since: Dec 21, 2006
Posted on: May 4, 2010 8:46 pm
 

The Arizona immigration law

hey i live in sierra vista that rancher was one of many he was a good man and more popular down there than most of the athletes on this site. That law was not added late to mask anything it was sent late because the democrats of our state senate decided to fight it so it took longer to go through. The point is the state has learned the federal government cant control our immigration they are not involved enough. This legislation gives power to the state to help cut down on illegals. Thats all it does is gives power to police to ckeck somebodys residency status when they arrest them if you don't understand that maybe you should go talk to someone who does like i did.



Since: Sep 19, 2006
Posted on: May 4, 2010 8:45 pm
 

The Arizona immigration law

Here is a clip where JD Hayworth does a very good job explaining the bill to a couple of people that would be against it no matter what it said.




Since: Sep 19, 2006
Posted on: May 4, 2010 7:28 pm
 

The Arizona immigration law

 By the way, how much cheaper was your house because of the low wages paid to the immigrants?..So let me make sure I'm understanding you correctly.  It's ok to break the law as long as I beneifit from it?

That's like saying it's ok to to speed as long as I get to my destination quicker.  WHAT?





Since: Sep 19, 2006
Posted on: May 4, 2010 7:25 pm
 

The Arizona immigration law

zandog - How the heck does this law "make people guilty until proven innocent"?  If you get pulled over by a cop don't they ask everybody for Licence, registration, and proof of insurance?  The reason the cop stopps them in the first place is because they were doing something wrong.  Only after a lawful stopping can they ask for proof of citizenship.



Since: Mar 13, 2007
Posted on: May 4, 2010 7:22 pm
 

The Arizona immigration law

Good luck with your healthy real estate market after you get rid of a half million people.  I know AZ has more problems due to drug and human  smuggling which is not fair, but lowering itself to Fascist regulations is not the answer. By the way, how much cheaper was your house because of the low wages paid to the immigrants? In most of the mountain west a new house would cost at least $20k more because of extra labor costs. I think some people who are in favor this law only look at extra costs and not areas where they save money or how growth spurs white collar jobs and rental properties etc.     



Since: Mar 13, 2007
Posted on: May 4, 2010 7:09 pm
 

The Arizona immigration law

Well said.



Since: Mar 13, 2007
Posted on: May 4, 2010 7:07 pm
 

The Arizona immigration law

I agree that we need to do something, but we are not Nazi Germany and the AZ law not only makes people guilty until proven innocent, but is very vague on "suspicion."   



Since: Sep 19, 2006
Posted on: May 4, 2010 7:03 pm
 

The Arizona immigration law

HelloMotto - I pity you.  I really do.  And your parents should be run out of the county for teaching you that crap.  Yes there are corrupt police officers, but to sit there and think that they are out to get you demonstrates 3 things

1. A lack of education.  If you had any education you would understand that you are buying into a system of thinking that is fostered among people who are looking for an excuse.  Someone else to blame for their misfortunes.
 
2. A lack of desire to make something more of yourself - sitting there wallowing in self pity thinking how you are so oppressed is not going to improve your station in life.

3. No personal responsibility.  It's not always someone elses fault that your life is screwed up.


As for the immigration law. It needed to happen.  At some point people must be held accountable for their decisions.  If I break the law then I should expect to be punished.  I may get away with it for a while but that doesn't change the fact that I am still breaking the law.  All this law does is enable the State of Arizona to enforce its laws by requesting proof of citizenship.  That's all they are asking.  Show me a licence, birth cirtificate, passport....anything that will demonstrate that you are a citizen and you are fine.  Why is that so difficult?  People need to suck it up and take responsibility for their actions.



Since: Sep 5, 2008
Posted on: May 4, 2010 6:04 pm
 

The Arizona immigration law

What is your point.  Why don't you cross the Mexican border and see how many Mexicans walk up to you.  Children chase you for blocks selling you chicklets.  Men ask you if you want to see a donkey show.  Think they ask the average Mexican.

Look at the Time square bomber.  How many people did not think it was not some Al Quida wack job.  
When someone is murdered do you think a profiler uses information to solve the crime.  
Profiling and intelligence is rationale when applied correctly.  The problem is most people do not correct those of their kind who bring trouble on their kind.  If I am white and I am driving in the hood at night, what are the chances I am looking for drugs and hookers.  If I am hanging on a street corner with my pants below my knee caps and cars are coming and going near me.  What are the chances I am selling drugs.  Yet the police are racist.  If I see a white Nazi speaking ill of jews and race baiting, Am I a Nazi or am I an asshole for not telling this asshole to leave the area because I do not want to be considered a Nazi.
How you dress, act and carry yourself says alot.  If you except shit, you deserve shit.  Do not blame police for doing their job.  That is a cop out for excepting shit.  If a police is wrong you need to ask yourself what it is you are doing to bring the heat on you.  If you have done no wrong, why are you worried.  It is like speeding.  If the speed limit is 55 and I am going 60, have I broken the law????  
Now would you rather be neighbors with a police officer or would you rather be neighbors with a drug dealer or illegal.  Thank you for your answer.



Since: Nov 27, 2009
Posted on: May 4, 2010 5:48 pm
 

The Arizona immigration law

 Lets face it, white, black, latino, or anybody in America is guilty until proven innocent! If you think that the old slogan " To Protect and Serve" means anything anymore, you are delusional. I am not saying all police officers are bad, racist, or corrupt, but many are. Racial profiling happens all over this country and to all of its constituants. Try being a caucasian male with New Jersey liscense plates in the Bronx, or being a latino in Beverly Hills outside of your landscaping truck. Bottom line is that many police officers in this country have turned into revenu generators, and "To Protect and Serve" is a saying from better days gone past.


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