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BCS can vacate USC's 2004 title

Posted on: May 20, 2010 8:38 pm

The BCS has the power  to vacate one of its championships should USC be found guilty violating of NCAA bylaws. The question is, what form would that take?

USA Today reported Wednesday that a little-known BCS rule added in January 2007 allows the BCS to vacate the championship of a team if it has found to be guilty of major rules violations. USC is awaiting penalties -- if any -- regarding the Reggie Bush case. Bush is alleged to have taken money and extra benefits from would-be agents while at the school. If he is ruled by the NCAA to have competed while ineligible, the association could strip USC victories while he was at the school. Only, then would the BCS step in.

But the NCAA doesn't sponsor a championship in football so it essentially has no jurisdiction on USC's '04 title. How the BCS would strip that title isn't clear.

The BCS can't compel the American Football Coaches Association or the Associated Press to take back trophies from the Trojans' 2004 championship season.  In other sports besides football, the NCAA typically only removes references of championships in media guides and record books of teams that have vacated wins.

In the case of the BCS, what record books? What media guides? The BCS runs a website,, and puts out a small pamphlet-like media guide each season. 

Since 1998, the AFCA has awarded a trophy to the winner of the BCS title game. The AP awards a trophy to a team that finishes No. 1 among the voters in its final poll. AP told the BCS to drop it from its formula a few years ago, in part due to a conflict of interest among its voters.

A college football national championship has never been forfeited or vacated (in the wire service era since 1936).

"The NCAA will do whatever we do," one BCS official said.

The NCAA has section in its record book recognizing BCS champions.

The NCAA has vacated those records and championships in basketball and other sports. That typically involves removing a teams' wins and championships of record books and media guides. In the case of Florida State's Bobby Bowden, it would have involved no reference its former coach being the all-time winningest coach in NCAA history.

Prior to his retirement, the veteran coach was within reach of catching Joe Paterno for No. 1 on the all-time list. The NCAA then forced Florida State to vacate 12 of his victories. Bowden finished with 377 career victories.

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Since: Feb 16, 2007
Posted on: May 21, 2010 8:07 am

BCS can vacate USC's 2004 title

The sad part about all of this is, despite the efforts to ERADICATE anything, the game WAS played, a team won, and the memories of the win or loss are indelibly etched on the minds of the young men who played the game THAT day.
You can do whatever you want with the title. USC lived it, earned it, and the boy's memories cannot be changed.
No lover of USC here, but after the fact makes no one happy.

Since: Sep 13, 2009
Posted on: May 21, 2010 7:35 am

BCS can vacate USC's 2004 title


Since: Dec 5, 2006
Posted on: May 21, 2010 7:03 am

BCS can vacate USC's 2004 title

So are you saying that illegal actions should be tolerated by any high-profile university and their athletes/coaches/boosters? Are you in cahoots with Floyd Landis, Mark McGuire and Brian Cushing? If reporting on NCAA violations are wrong...then I don't want my degree from any instiution where "winning" is paramount to education and development.

Put that in your syringe and plead not guilty,

Mr. "At least I have moral fiber and can spell integrity" Cruz

Since: Oct 15, 2006
Posted on: May 21, 2010 6:39 am

BCS can vacate USC's 2004 title

It's meaningless.  Is Vegas going to pay off old futures tickets for people holding Auburn or Oklahoma?  Is it going to take away the high fives and excitement of USC fans when they won?  No.  It's just window dressing.

Since: Jul 29, 2009
Posted on: May 21, 2010 1:24 am

BCS can vacate USC's 2004 title

it is the fair thing to do
cheaters never prosper

Since: May 18, 2009
Posted on: May 21, 2010 12:47 am

BCS can vacate USC's 2004 title

Does this mean the BCS can take away Ohio State's championship in 2002 because the referee was paid off and cheated Miami out of a 2nd consecutive title?

Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: May 21, 2010 12:42 am

BCS can vacate USC's 2004 title

I am tired of hearing about the BCS. One of the CBS writers had called it the "Bull Crap Society". The BCS is nothing but a bunch of arrogant and power hungry guys who like to exert their power. "The NCAA will do whatever we do..." So if the BCS is committing illegal acts (just give it time...the proof will eventually show up) then the NCAAA will also commit crimes. many have said if USC has to forfeit their win then who gets to be named champion? This isn't simple like the Olympics or the Tour de France. The BCS is a convoluted system that was helped by USC's "clear superiority". I say let the new top 5 teams battle it out in a hardcore, no holds-barred competition of rock, papers, scissors. Only then we will we have winner for this BCS created mess.

Since: Dec 7, 2009
Posted on: May 20, 2010 11:37 pm

BCS can vacate USC's 2004 title


"Meaningless life"! Really? I'd say what is "sad" is calling other peoples lives meaningless, simply because they used a cliche' to express their enthusiasm. Hey, but that's just me. This is a message board made for people to show their backsides if that's what gives their lives meaning. You would do well to remember that the next time you are publicly assessing the meaning of other peoples lives.

Since: Jan 16, 2008
Posted on: May 20, 2010 11:20 pm

BCS can vacate USC's 2004 title

About the best thing I've heard all year long.

Then you sir have a pretty meaningless life....sad.

Since: Oct 18, 2007
Posted on: May 20, 2010 11:07 pm

BCS can vacate USC's 2004 title

Oklahoma won the national title while losing by 31 in the title game. Hooray for them! Give it to Utah to make that Fiesta Bowl easier to swallow.

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