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Pac-10 to become first superconference, maybe

Posted on: June 3, 2010 7:52 pm
Edited on: June 3, 2010 9:04 pm
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Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott didn't exactly deny Thursday's Orangeblood.com's report regarding a raid on the Big 12. Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe didn't react at all, hurrying to an elevator with media trailing behind.

It's obvious the report that predicted the biggest upheaval, perhaps ever in conference affiliation, touched a nerve all over the country.

Scott told the Denver Post late Thursday afternoon in San Francisco only that there will be no offer this weekend. The internet report said that it "appears" the Pac-10 "is prepared" to invite Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Colorado from the Big 12. The "thought is," according to the story, that the Pac-10 would then start its own network.

"I don't expect anything definitive," Scott said of the Pac-10 meetings that begin on Friday. "Nothing's changed in terms of our timetable. We've been very consistent. We're on course and moving deliberately."

As the story moved into Thursday evening, the report appeared to gain traction. Scott has said from the beginning that he would like to have a plan of attack by this summer. It is known that the Pac-10 must have its membership finalized by December in order to begin the next round of television negotiations with Fox. Its current contract with Fox expires in 2012, the same year as the Big 12.

The two conferences have discussed a partnership and scheduling alliance that would fall short of a full merger.

Here are several thoughts about the report.

  Texas AD DeLoss Dodds and Texas A&M AD Bill Byrne are both on record within the last two days as saying they did not favor the Pac-10 because of the strain on the student-athletes. Byrne, in particular, was furious that the women's basketball team had to travel all night from the Spokane, Wash. to College Station after an NCAA Tournament loss. The team's plane landed at 6:30 a.m. CT. Players had to be in class at 8 a.m.

  On the other hand, Texas has long looked down its nose at having to play the likes of Baylor and Iowa State in the Big 12. The school might have also tired of whining from Missouri about uneven conference revenue distribution. Dodds said earlier this week, "We're going to be a player in whatever happens."

  Scott aims high. It's obvious he wasn't hired by the Pac-10 to vet out the likes of Utah and BYU. Pac-10 expansion has moved to another level. That doesn't mean they'll necessarily get six Big 12 teams. It might mean the Pac-10 is going to try like hell, though.

  Buyouts wouldn't be an issue with a raided Big 12. How do you buy out of a conference that doesn't exist? With half of its members gone, the remaining Big 12 teams would be scrambling.

  Beebe refused to answer reporters questions on Thursday at the Big 12 meetings in Kansas City, saying he would speak on Friday. That's out of character for the usually affable Beebe who headed for elevator with reporters tailing behind. Is the Big 12 reeling from a knockout blow, looking for a way to retrench?

  Anyone want to ask the Rose Bowl's opinion of this? The contract with the Pac-10 is for ... the Pac-10. Not a 16-team conglomerate that might advance Texas Tech to Pasadena. While the network deals are redone, don't forget some bowl contracts are going to have to reconfigured.

  Missouri and Nebraska have to be nervous. Those fans better hope their schools get invited to the Big Ten. If not, we're looking at the Mountain West suddenly inviting the Big 12 leftovers. Nebraska at New Mexico? Colorado State vs. Missouri for a division title? Not exactly the Big Ten, fellas.    

  The Mountain West could be in the right place at the right time. The league is expected to invite Boise State on Monday, expanding to 10 teams. The MWC is attempting to gain automatic BCS qualification status. Adding Missouri and Nebraska wouldn't hurt that pursuit.

  What does the Big Ten do if the Pac-10 becomes the first superconference? Or does it even matter? Missouri and Nebraska are still in play. How, then, does the SEC respond? If the report is true, the Pac-16(?) would pass the SEC in revenue paying out $20 million per team. The SEC/s new deal with CBS and ESPN guarantees each team $17 million.
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Since: Aug 19, 2009
Posted on: June 3, 2010 11:22 pm
 

Pac-10 to become first superconference, maybe

Super conference big boys.

Pac 16 .

1. USC
2. TEXAS
3. OU
4. OREGON ST

Big 16 .

1. OHIO ST
2. PENN ST
3. NEBRASKA
4. NOTRE DAME

SEC 16 .

1. FLORIDA
2. ALABAMA
3. LSU
4. MIAMI


FAIR ENOUGH ????



Since: Dec 3, 2007
Posted on: June 3, 2010 11:14 pm
 

Pac-10 to become first superconference, maybe

Nervous?  I think it would be hilarious.  After six months of listening to the other Big XII schools scream about the disloyalty of Mizzou, to have the conference sold out by many of those same teams and to have Commissior Sock Puppet left holding the bag?  That's beautiful. 

The Big XII was doomed from the start.    The south never respected the north.  The elite schools never respected the second tier.  Texas is a giant tick sucking the life out of the conference and it's only a matter of time before they bolt.  The bad thing about being with the prettiest girl at the dance is that she's always looking to trade up.  I say let the whole thing burn.



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: June 3, 2010 10:43 pm
 

Pac-10 to become first superconference, maybe

Miami and Florida State have no interest in being in the same league as Florida. The only way the SEC could get the Hurricanes and Seminoles would be to kick out the Gators, and we all know that's not going to happen. So Miami has no interest in the SEC. Neither does Georgia Tech, which left the league once. So that leaves Clemson and only Clemson.

As for if it's true, which I very much doubt, Texas A&M will say no. The Aggies do not want to be in the Pac-10 at all. If they leave the Big 12, it's going to be for the SEC. I also think the Pac-10 will vote down the invites, because if you still need unanimous approval, and I think you do, Stanford will say no to Texas like it did 17 years ago.



Since: Sep 20, 2009
Posted on: June 3, 2010 10:14 pm
 

Pac-10 to become first superconference, maybe

What a bunch of hog wash! So Texas will turn down the Big Ten to go to the Pac 10? The Pac-10 loves the TV market of Stillwater  and West Texas over Provo,UT and Salt Lake City? This is just a bunch of lips flapping  I dont see it how would the Pac 10 land the likes of Oklahoma and Texas when the Big Ten takes Mizzu and Nebraska. Sorry if it was all about money Texas would be the newest Big 10 member and would do just fine



Since: May 10, 2010
Posted on: June 3, 2010 9:51 pm
 

Pac-10 to become first superconference, maybe

And the 16 format works really well...  if you don't do the quadrant thing.    That is were the WAC went wrong.  

Zona and Zona State will be in the same league with the Texas and Oklahoma games...

now remember you have 12 games in a regular + a championship for Conf + a Bowl + extra game if you play a Hawaii at Hawaii.


So you play the 7 Teams in your Division and then either 1 or 2 games from the other Division.   Then you would get 3 out of Conference Games.

Basketball would be home and home with your Division and 1 games alternatiing home site with other division.

Baseball 3 games series with your division and 2 game series with other Division opponents.

  



Since: Sep 15, 2007
Posted on: June 3, 2010 9:45 pm
 

Pac-10 to become first superconference, maybe

Wow... I heard this same thing today. BUT - I heard that the Big 12 is moving to try and create a little Buzz around their conference today also.

From what I hear...

The Big 12 is going after Southern Cal and Cal to join them.

next...

They are trying to decide if they want to continue to gut the Big 10 and invite AZ and AZ state, but according to most... they want to go after LSU and Arkansas from the SEC.

Remember Arkansas used to be involved in the old Southwest Conference, and many feel the rivalry between them and Texas could help the program.

Like I said... Just something else Ive heard. I thnk they may want the small schools like Mizz and Colo to leave, so they can move to invte all 6???




Since: Nov 6, 2009
Posted on: June 3, 2010 9:41 pm
 

Pac-10 to become first superconference, maybe

This was a unexpected move by the Pac-10. This seems to be pretty bold and could pay off for the Pac-10 but i am going to wait till the invites are truly sent out. This is still pretty exciting stuff.



Since: Sep 29, 2007
Posted on: June 3, 2010 9:41 pm
 

SEC Response?

Ok...assuming all of the above is true.  Do all 6 of those schools accept? Or do OU/OSU take a pass on the assumption that they will end up in a newly revamped SEC?  I  get the feeling from all this that there has always been a big divide between the former SWC schools and the old Big 8.  It's obivious that Nebraska/Mizzou/Kansas are about the Big 10 and while I think Texas and A&M would be better in the SEC, the new Pac 10 does make a ton of sense.  If OU/Ok. St. spurn the Pac 10 and end up in the SEC, then THAT would be the SEC response.  As for Clemson being the only ACC school with interest, that's just bogus.  Miami would take the money in a heartbeat and I wouldn't be shocked to see West Virginia leave the Big East.  Crazy stuff.....I wish they would just get it all over with, but I can't remember a more fun college football off season.



Since: May 25, 2008
Posted on: June 3, 2010 9:10 pm
 

Pac-10 to become first superconference, maybe

Personally, I believe this report IS accurate and it most definately makes sense......

Think about this for a moment if you will......  with all this talk about the Big 10 possibly courting Tx, Neb, Missou, and ND maybe, JUST MAYBE, the Pac 10 got nervous and decided that to be able to negotiate for a higher (more lucrative) TV contract it needed to move or make a play for the Best available players NOW and not merely sit back and settle for the leftovers!!  The Pac 10 looks to utilize the ol war strategic motto of "the best offense is a good defense", and reverse it to say "the best defense is a good offense"!!!  This would allow them to get the jump on a Big 10 conference who "sits around talking big; yet, dragging its feet!!", and grant them really solid programs like TX, OK, etc. with the closest possible geographic locales!!!

If this doesn't make sense to you, then you need to go to Taco Bell and think "OUT" of the box!!



Since: Nov 14, 2007
Posted on: June 3, 2010 8:55 pm
 

Pac-10 to become first superconference, maybe

Yeah, but Texas is arrogant enough to think it would be an easy road.

Also, if the Big 12 dissolves, you are left with 5 major conferences (Pac-10, Big Ten, SEC, ACC, Big East). With 12 BCS spots (presuming each major conferences sends the max of 2) that leaves 2 at-large.

TCU, Utah, BYU and Boise State must be pretty excited about those odds.


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