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Rift in Texas

Posted on: June 11, 2010 8:46 am
Your morning expansion line for Friday includes news that Texas and Texas A&M may break apart.

Call it an expansion micro-burst. First it was the Big 12 breaking up. Now the most powerful faction of the Big 12 could be drifting apart. We always thought that Texas and A&M were joined at the hip pads when it came to expansion. But a Thursday meeting produced no consensus between Texas and Texas A&M. I hear that A&M prefers the SEC while the league is a non-starter for Texas.

I also hear that Jim Delany is still trying like heck to get Texas into the Big Ten. But what about that "Tech problem"?

The dominoes figure to officially start tumbling today when Nebraska announces it is joining the Big Ten. I wrote the heck out of this issue this week but it bears repeating: The Big 12 cannot survive if Nebraska leaves. 1) The TV rights go way down; 2) What's to keep Texas, or any other school, leaving in two, three, four or five years? The Big 12 is a bad marriage that cannot go on.

The biggest issues on the table going into Friday:

a) What does Texas do?
b) What does Texas do?
c) What does Texas do?

OK, seriously:

a) Where do Texas and A&M end up and do they go as a unit?
b) Where does the Big Ten strike next (because it will strike next)?
c) Where does the Pac-10 strikes next (please don't believe his stuff about the Pac-10 stopping at 11)?
d) What are you doing at 5 p.m.? Remember when happy hour today was the deadline for Missouri and Nebraska? Nebraska is gone and Missouri has no idea where it stands.


Since: Apr 2, 2008
Posted on: June 11, 2010 10:08 am

Rift in Texas

The SEC - the best and most dominate conference should take:

Texas and Oklahoma for the west.

North Carolina and West Virginia for the east.

The Big 10, PAC and ACC would all become irrelevant.


Since: Oct 9, 2006
Posted on: June 11, 2010 10:05 am

Rift in Texas

Until I saw the Texas A&M thing I was for sure the pac 10 was becoming a super conference with Texas.  I still think it will, but enter Kansas or Kansas St. instead of A&M.  I think what this does is free up Texas.  If they head to the pac-10 though who will be their major competition year in and year out?  USC? thought that too until yesterday.  There are Quality teams in the pac ten, don't get me wrong, but championship contenders year in and year out...  However, that does make Texas the big dog, and I think they like being the big dog.  Option  two is to the big ten, regardless of what people want to say, the big ten generally has one or two championship contenders every year, with Nebraska on the rise (I do like this fit) and Texas, possibly Notre Dame, this really becomes a power conference almost overnight, but against the likes of Michigan, Ohio State, Nebraska, Penn State, and possibly Notre Dame, Texas will not be the big dog, they will be a force, but will not come close to carrying the sway they did in the big 12, plus there is the rift between Nebraska and Texas, but that could be rectified with the other powers in the conference being real powers.  Lastly that leaves the SEC for Texas, perennial championship contenders, upgrades in football, but again against Florida, Alabama, and LSU, Texas will lose some of it's luster, I think with the proximity, sometimes distance is a good thing.  I love Texas in the big ten, but thats a big distance gap, between the tradition and academics and overall money management it looks good on paper, Location wise I like the SEC fit better.  I don't really see Texas fitting in the Pac-ten, maybe that's just me.  I mean this is a state that had some support for seccession from the Union when a Obama(a liberal) won the presidency. Them fitting in with Berkeley, interesting.  I am loving this, it's like Political war, who are the best manpulators?  If only we paid attention to what happens in Washington like we are this, things might be better overall.

Since: Feb 8, 2008
Posted on: June 11, 2010 10:02 am

Rift in Texas

I think Nebraska is a great move for the Big Ten.  I imagine that Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M go to the PAC-10.  Texas TEch is a stinker - awful school academically that shouldn't be in the PAC-10.  

Since: Jun 11, 2010
Posted on: June 11, 2010 9:57 am

Rift in Texas

What is the allure for the Pac-10?  I don't get it at all.  Somebody please explain why??  The brand of sports is poor, the time zone creates problems, the teams are now even weaker then before.  The Big 12 minus Nebraska and Colorado is better then the Pac 10.

Nobody, outside of the west coast, gives two BLEEPS about the PAC 10.  Why does Texas think this will change?  Yeah, the state of Texas might watch their teams play, but do you think any of us will stay up to watch Oregon St vs. Washington St?  You can bet we will watch LSU vs. Mississippi St if it impacts Texas or A&M, just better brand of sports and the time they play will be more convienent.

If I were A&M, I would go to the SEC and let Texas go to the Pac 10.  Within 5 years, A&M would be THE football college in Texas.  Imagine recruiting:  Son, would you like to play on the west coast, in Eugene, Oregon at 11:00pm EST?  How about going up against Stanford?  OR.....son, how about stayingin Texas and playing Florida, Alabama, LSU, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, Auburn every year on CBS or ESPN, nationally, at 3:00pm EST?

Of course, I think the Big 10 is the best place for both of Ohio State v Texas Big 10 Championship game would be incredible!

Since: Jun 11, 2010
Posted on: June 11, 2010 9:54 am

Rift in Texas

Not true. Yes, Texas would probably not like to play games in Nebraska in November, but You have to follow the money trail. Besides, it was Texas' greed that sunk the Big 12 anyway. They only place Texas can go that would create a better revenue stream for themselves than what they already have is the Big 10(11). The SEC would love to have them, but that's not really an option for Texas. Texas joining the PAC 10 doesn't do anything special for them either, other than isolate them from lucrative markets east of Kansas. How can the PAC 10 command a larger TV deal than the current Big 12 if no one East of Texas (including major markets in the midwest, northeast and southeast) gives a damn about their product? Even USC can't pull big ratings unless they're playing a team from the east! If Texas does what it normally does, which is look after its own bank account first and foremost, than the only logical place for them is the Big 10(11). It's ALL about the money.

Since: Nov 2, 2008
Posted on: June 11, 2010 9:54 am

Rift in Texas

SEC should drop Vanderbilt and pick up Miami or Georgia Tech also...

Since: Jun 10, 2010
Posted on: June 11, 2010 9:53 am

Rift in Texas

Texas A & M to the SEC?  You gotta be kidding!  Beginning with the 2000 season, TAMU has compiled a winning percentage of 51.6% and has won one (count 'em one!) bowl game during that period.  Keep in mind that winning percentage includes games against the likes of the Arkansas States (to whom they lost!), most of the directional schools in the southwest and the traditional patsies in the Big 12. The move to the lofty SEC stockpiled with perennial powerhouses would only further expose them for the football frauds that they are.  Be care Mr. Stallings, you might just get what you are asking for.  Unless you can bring back Jackie Sherrill or schedule Vanderbilt for all of your conference games, you are leading your football program into a suicidal mission that even the 12th man can't help with.

Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: June 11, 2010 9:50 am

Rift in Texas

Some rumors swirling that Kansas, K-State, Mizzou, and Iowa State and at least a few members of the Big East are feeling good about each other at the moment.  Would be a very good, BCS-solidified football conference.  They could break basketball up into four five-team divisions to get the most out of the diverse geography and heated rivalries.  Winning a Division Championship that would mean quite a bit over your rivals and playing in the Big East Tournament on roids is worth not playing everyone in the conference.

Since: Aug 27, 2007
Posted on: June 11, 2010 9:47 am

Rift in Texas

Texas better move fast.  They're trying to play both sides of the fence.  Big 10 vs Pac 10 and who knows what's been said to the SEC.  Problem is other schools see the Big 12 time bomb and are jumping ship ASAP.  When the music stops who will be left out?  Obviously Texas will get into a big time conference but if they give the Pac 10 the runaround they may expand elsewhere and the Big 10 may stop at 12.  Who knows.  The SEC would love to have them but they are not as willing to play in the best conference and their excuse is academics.  I like what Colorado did and what Nebraska is apparently about to do.

Since: Feb 8, 2008
Posted on: June 11, 2010 9:45 am

Rift in Texas

A&M to the PAC-10 is not a good fit.  Neither is Texas Tech.  Texas Tech is not a great academic institution and doesn't fit the profile of PAC-10 schools.  A&M would be a great fit with the SEC as they have natural rivals with Arkansas and LSU.  Texas I think will go to the PAC 10.  I'd like to see Oklahoma go to the SEC, too.  

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