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Rift in Texas

Posted on: June 11, 2010 8:46 am
 
Your morning expansion line for Friday includes news that Texas and Texas A&M may break apart.

Call it an expansion micro-burst. First it was the Big 12 breaking up. Now the most powerful faction of the Big 12 could be drifting apart. We always thought that Texas and A&M were joined at the hip pads when it came to expansion. But a Thursday meeting produced no consensus between Texas and Texas A&M. I hear that A&M prefers the SEC while the league is a non-starter for Texas.

I also hear that Jim Delany is still trying like heck to get Texas into the Big Ten. But what about that "Tech problem"?

The dominoes figure to officially start tumbling today when Nebraska announces it is joining the Big Ten. I wrote the heck out of this issue this week but it bears repeating: The Big 12 cannot survive if Nebraska leaves. 1) The TV rights go way down; 2) What's to keep Texas, or any other school, leaving in two, three, four or five years? The Big 12 is a bad marriage that cannot go on.

The biggest issues on the table going into Friday:

a) What does Texas do?
b) What does Texas do?
c) What does Texas do?

OK, seriously:

a) Where do Texas and A&M end up and do they go as a unit?
b) Where does the Big Ten strike next (because it will strike next)?
c) Where does the Pac-10 strikes next (please don't believe his stuff about the Pac-10 stopping at 11)?
d) What are you doing at 5 p.m.? Remember when happy hour today was the deadline for Missouri and Nebraska? Nebraska is gone and Missouri has no idea where it stands.


Comments

Since: Apr 20, 2010
Posted on: June 11, 2010 7:14 pm
 

Rift in Texas

SEC?    Then they could share the library -  both books



Since: Dec 22, 2008
Posted on: June 11, 2010 6:27 pm
 

Rift in Texas

That's been one of the problems I think. Texas has killed any idea of a Big 12 network which is why Colorado and Nebraska left. The writing is on the wall, conferences that do what the Big 10 is doing are going to be far more lucrative for the members. They want a real piece instead of one school getting a bigger share.

Texas will have a tough time selling a "give us a bigger share" agreement to LA market USC and SEC schools.

Colorado was smart to move first. It avoids them being left out of a package deal that would have a conference taking Baylor to get Texas, TT and A&M.



Since: Oct 26, 2008
Posted on: June 11, 2010 5:55 pm
 

Rift in Texas

I agree with some of the other posters - resurrect the old Southwest Conference. SMU is out there and playing better football. Houston has had some decent teams. They could replace the loss of Colorado and Nebraska.

And honestly, maybe teams like Kansas, K-State, Iowa State and Missouri should look for other conference affiliations - they all are a better fit with the Big 10 teams and create great regional rivalries within the conference. I understand the Big 10 is looking for eastern teams - and Notre Dame - too, so it's unlikely all those Big 12 schools would be added, but other conferences are better fits for them than the dissolving Big 12.

As far as Texas is concerned, it could easily pull together an 8-team conference, and possibly a 10-team conference, with most of those teams coming from Texas and Oklahoma. And with UT and Oklahoma still putting together great footbal teams, if one or two other teams rise to the ocassion each year, the new conference would still have plenty of clout and prestige in college football.

Texas likes being the one in charge, but that appears to have rubbed many of the Big 12 schools the wrong way. If Texas goes to another existing conference, they certainly won't be calling the shots, so why not try experimenting with some decent revenue-sharing ideas in a newly created conference that includes some old Big 12 and SWC schools?

I know it will never happen, but you can't blame me for hoping when the other option is seeing Texas play UCLA, USC, Orgeon and Washington every year (and all the other West Coast teams in the Pac-10) - it just doesn't sound right.



Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: June 11, 2010 5:27 pm
 

Rift in Texas

If the SEC gets rid of Vanderbilt, it might as well get rid of academic affiliations to the universities and just become a minor league football association.  Then, the "students" could just concentrate football without all of those pesky classes.




Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: June 11, 2010 5:06 pm
 

Rift in Texas

Texas Tech actually has great academic programs, try doing some homework.



Since: Jun 5, 2007
Posted on: June 11, 2010 5:01 pm
 

Rift in Texas

Kiljare:

Great job digging up ancient facts. So Texas played Florida in 1924, 1939 and 1940. That was 70 years ago. 70 years! Even I wasn't alive then. What possible relevence could that have today?

Here's another interpretation of those same facts:

Texas vs. LSU = 9-7-1, since 2000: 1 - 0
Texas vs. Alabama = 7-1-1, since 2000: 0 - 1
Texas vs. Arkansas = 56-21, since 2000: 2 - 2
Texas vs. Auburn = 5-3, since 1991: 0 - 1
Texas vs. Florida = 2-0-1, since 1940: 1 - 0
Texas vs. Georgia = 3-1, since 1984: 0 - 1
Texas vs. Kentucky = 1-0, since 1951: 1 - 0
Texas vs. South Carolina = 0-1, since 1950: 0 - 1
Texas vs. Tennesee = 2-1, since 1969: 1 - 0
Texas vs. Ole Miss = 5-1, since 1966: 1 - 0
Texas vs. Miss St. = 2-2, since 1990: 1 - 2
Texas vs. Vanderbilt = 2-7-1, since 1920 (last played in 1928) 2 - 5


These records are based on the last time the teams met. If you look at Texas's record in the 2000 against the SEC, it is a respectable 3-3. Since the 1990's is it 4-6, not so good.

But let's look at the bright side - Vanderbuilt owns Texas to the tune of 8-3-1. They scored 169 total points, while Texas only managed 84.



Since: Jul 24, 2008
Posted on: June 11, 2010 4:55 pm
 

Rift in Texas

well I think that Texas Tech (my school) is a good fit for the PAC-10 being way out in West Texas...however, if we are not with A&M anymore, I guess we will just have to shift our statue of Will Roger's horse on campus, and point its ass toward Austin, since it currently points toward College Station. ....Just a thought.



Since: Sep 22, 2008
Posted on: June 11, 2010 4:52 pm
 

Rift in Texas

Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah - Sour Grapes.
It was your defense that lost the game - not the one hit wonder.
So, I can say that you were 1 second away from not going to the dance.
There.

Roll Tide!  Get over it!



Since: Jul 24, 2008
Posted on: June 11, 2010 4:51 pm
 

Re-Point the Horse's Ass!!

well I think that Texas Tech (my school) is a good fit for the PAC-10 being way out in West Texas...however, if we are not with A&M anymore, I guess we will just have to shift our statue of Will Roger's horse on campus, and point its ass toward Austin, since it currently points toward College Station. ....Just a thought.



Since: Jul 24, 2008
Posted on: June 11, 2010 4:50 pm
 

Rift in Texas

well I think that Texas Tech (my school) is a good fit for the PAC-10 being way out in West Texas...however, if we are not with A&M anymore, I guess we will just have to shift our statue of Will Roger's horse on campus, and point its ass toward Austin, since it currently points toward College Station. ....Just a thought.


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