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Rift in Texas

Posted on: June 11, 2010 8:46 am
Your morning expansion line for Friday includes news that Texas and Texas A&M may break apart.

Call it an expansion micro-burst. First it was the Big 12 breaking up. Now the most powerful faction of the Big 12 could be drifting apart. We always thought that Texas and A&M were joined at the hip pads when it came to expansion. But a Thursday meeting produced no consensus between Texas and Texas A&M. I hear that A&M prefers the SEC while the league is a non-starter for Texas.

I also hear that Jim Delany is still trying like heck to get Texas into the Big Ten. But what about that "Tech problem"?

The dominoes figure to officially start tumbling today when Nebraska announces it is joining the Big Ten. I wrote the heck out of this issue this week but it bears repeating: The Big 12 cannot survive if Nebraska leaves. 1) The TV rights go way down; 2) What's to keep Texas, or any other school, leaving in two, three, four or five years? The Big 12 is a bad marriage that cannot go on.

The biggest issues on the table going into Friday:

a) What does Texas do?
b) What does Texas do?
c) What does Texas do?

OK, seriously:

a) Where do Texas and A&M end up and do they go as a unit?
b) Where does the Big Ten strike next (because it will strike next)?
c) Where does the Pac-10 strikes next (please don't believe his stuff about the Pac-10 stopping at 11)?
d) What are you doing at 5 p.m.? Remember when happy hour today was the deadline for Missouri and Nebraska? Nebraska is gone and Missouri has no idea where it stands.


Since: Feb 9, 2009
Posted on: June 11, 2010 2:13 pm

Rift in Texas

As a Pitt fan, I wholeheartedly agree with adding those schools to solidify the Big East in football and improve the basketball conference.  Adding Kansas to the Big East basketball conference makes the Big East the dominant force in college basketball.

Since: Jun 8, 2010
Posted on: June 11, 2010 2:13 pm

Rift in Texas

a) Where do Texas and A&M end up and do they go as a unit?
b) Where does the Big Ten strike next (because it will strike next)?
c) Where does the Pac-10 strikes next (please don't believe his stuff about the Pac-10 stopping at 11)?
d) What are you doing at 5 p.m.? Remember when happy hour today was the deadline for Missouri and Nebraska? Nebraska is gone and Missouri has no idea where it stands.

a) Texas will come to the Pac 16, along with Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Utah.  Texas A&M is off to the SEC, so yes they are breaking up
b) You mean after the Big Ten takes Nebraska?  Notre Dame.
c) Pac 10 will announce Texas by close of business today.  Larry Scott will appear in Austin to announce on Monday, just as he did in Boulder today.
d) At 5 pm I will be at the University of Colorado Alumni bar in San Francisco, CA which is called The Republic (just like the moniker, "the People's Republic of Boulder" which is really more of a state of mind than anything else) to celebrate what is an historic day to be a Buff.  On that note, the CU/Cal game on September 11th is going to be the best game of the year, period. 

Since: Aug 27, 2006
Posted on: June 11, 2010 2:11 pm

Rift in Texas

Your post makes no sense. Texas can go to the PAC-10, SEC, or Big 10. No one is turning down Texas money or TVs. Get real.

If anything, Nebraska and Colorado are just making it easier for Texas to ditch Baylor and to a lesser extent Tech. The Texas legislature wants Texas to keep them around but Texas wants to look like their hads are tied... "Hey, we did all we could, but it looks like those guys are going to have to join the WAC." 

Since: Jul 9, 2008
Posted on: June 11, 2010 2:04 pm

Rift in Texas

absolutely false.  I am a Buckeye fan so I could really care less what Texas does (i just want the bucks to keep competing at a high level).  that being said Texas past present and future concerns lie in 2 areas.  Academics and $.  They could care less who comes too Texas to recruit because they will always have pick of the litter.  The young boys their are raised UT all the way (a few slip to A&M).  and changing conferences wont make their teams (yes there are more sports other than football) any better as they are one of those programs that will always be very talented due to the in state talent and their ability to attract student/athletes.   

Have any of you SEC fans ever been to the University of Texas or even to Austin?  It is an absolutely awesome place that symbolizes intelligence.  Not exactly the same sense you get when you visit Baton Rouge, Alabama, Ole Miss, Miss St, Arkansas, etc.  

Since: Dec 3, 2007
Posted on: June 11, 2010 1:51 pm

Rift in Texas

I don't know whether Texas thought that they could bully Nebraska into staying or if they simple thought they could force Nebraska to make the first move so that the Huskers would take the blame for blowing up the conference.  Both strategies failed.  While some Big XII members may experience some schadenfreude at Mizzou's expense, it's Texas and Nebraska that are taking the heat for blowing up the conference.

Since: Feb 6, 2007
Posted on: June 11, 2010 1:45 pm

Rift in Texas

As an A&M fan and student, I would much rather us go to the SEC than the PAC 10 or stay in the big 12 if that's even a possibility. We need to quit living in texas' shadow and the SEC just seems like a fit for us. We'll be back as a football progaram in the next couple years and I think the SEC would be a good place to make that happen, especially if texas isn't there and we're not playing little brother like we have been the in the past 10 years

Since: Dec 14, 2006
Posted on: June 11, 2010 1:42 pm

Rift in Texas

Look girls.....Texas will not go to the Big10 for the same reason SEC schools will not schedule home and home series with northern schools:  They want to control who they play and eat their cupcakes.

The Pac-10 makes perfect sense for Texas.  They can dominate in football (especially with USC biting the dust), it opens up more of the west coast market for basketball recruiting, and if they can get some of those Stanford girlies pregnant, it helps with acedemics for the future b deepening their gene pool.

Nah, Texas will not come to the Big10 anymore than they will go to the SEC.  Just ain't gonna happen.

Since: Oct 9, 2008
Posted on: June 11, 2010 1:40 pm

Rift in Texas

The SWC will rise again!

With Neb and CU leaving, my traditionalist dream would be to add back TCU, SMU, Houston, Rice (if you have to), Arkansas, and let Mizzou go.  That would leave a 14 team league.  The old SWC plus the Oklahoma schools.  With TCU, an improving Houston and SMU, and Ark, the league wouldn't be a complete push over.

The problem of course is the SWC collapsed for a reason.  And adding the Dallas and Houston schools aren't adding the markets, they are allready 90% t.u. and A&M fans.  Maybe some tech fans.  Arkansas would of course take a huge pay cut from the SEC.  This is a far fetched idea but...

There is a lot of political pressure to keep the Texas schools together.  Local TV stations are reporting studies that the economy of Waco will lose something like 300 Million in income due to not having A&M, Texas, Tech playing them each year.  The statewide loss of the splitting of schools is estimated well into the BILLIONS.  The extra $20 mil a few schools get for joining another conference is a drop in the bucket comparitively.  The state may need to kick in some extra funding to keep the schools together.

My more realistic dream, or preference, would be for A&M, t.u., OU, and OSU to joing the SEC.  I'd just prefer to see LSU, Bama, Florida, Georgia at Kyle Field more than the Pac-10 schools.  A&M in the Pac 10 just doesn't feel right.

Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: June 11, 2010 1:35 pm

Rift in Texas

Whether we're staying or going, I think an official announcement will not be made today.  Think of it as a smirk towards the deadline set for today.  If the Big Ten wants us today, they'll still want us Monday.  I'm curious what Texas would do if the deadline comes and no official announcement, whether we're staying or leaving, is made.  Check the bylaws.  A school can not be booted out of the league for having a wandering eye.  The irony of that is that was included to appease Texas.  Better yet, I'd like to see Texas over react and leave the conference with no one following them.  Colorado can be replaced, Texas would be a challenge but no one team is above any conference.  And yes that includes Nebraska.   

Since: Sep 7, 2008
Posted on: June 11, 2010 1:23 pm

Rift in Texas

Agreed. The academic argument is a smokescreen by UT. They don't want to compete with the SEC schools on the field when they can compete with the weaker Pac-10. Also, they're worried about opening up Texas to SEC recruiters. A&M and OU should come to the SEC and let Texas go out west and play games at 11:00pm EST. It's a shame though because UT already feels like an SEC school and the rivalry's they could create with bordering LSU, Bama and old Southwest foe Ark would be fun to watch.

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