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Preseason mags' top 25

Posted on: July 7, 2010 4:50 pm
Edited on: July 11, 2010 5:51 pm
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We love the polls. College football polls to be specific. Preseason college football polls to be exact.

There is the annual cry to get rid of them. Hogwash. First, the Associated Press isn't going to disappoint its subscribers by scrapping one of its most popular offerings of the year. Second, there would be no preseason magazines without preseason top 25s.

And last time I checked, the magazines aren't going away either. We need them. We want them. The likes of Athlon and Lindy's are selling better than ever. There are regional editions. Sure, some of them outdated by the time they hit the stands. (USC No. 3, Athlon? Really?) That's OK. The sport is year-round now. It's not going to stop for a printing press.

The mags' arrival officially stirs the juices. Suddenly, it's OK to break down the Sun Belt, predict the WAC. Argue about the SEC East. That's why this blog is devoted to one of my annual obsessions -- a combined poll from all the preseason magazines.

I combined five polls, from The Sporting News, Phil Steele, Lindy's, Athlon. Yahoo Sports and CBSSports.com. Our official preseason poll won't come out until late August. For this purpose, then, I'm using my post-spring top 25.

A few notes, rules and notifications:

*Each school was assigned a number in descending order. Twenty-five points for a No. 1 ranking, 24 for No. 2, etc.

*Schools are then ranked from highest-point total to lowest.

*I also included an average poll rank, mostly because not all the schools were named in all five polls. Example: Oregon State finished No. 25 because it got 11 points from being ranked No. 15 in The Sporting News.  The likes of Cincinnati (eight points) and Utah (five) were ranked in two polls but finished with fewer total points than Oregon State.

*Thirty seven schools received votes.

*Alabama was not a consensus No. 1. Phil Steele made some waves by picking Oklahoma No. 1.

The annual compilation:

1. Alabama: Duh. Haven't lost an SEC regular-season game since 2007. Highest rank, No. 1. Lowest, No. 3 (148 points, Avg. rank between No. 1 and No. 2)

2. Ohio State: The Big Ten is back. Ohio State never left. Highest rank, No. 2. Lowest rank, No. 3. (142 points. Avg. rank between No. 2 and No. 3)

3. Boise State: Should be a consensus top five pick with major polls debut next month. Highest rank, No. 2. Lowest rank, No. No. 6. (136 points. Average rank between No. 3 and No. 4)

4. Florida: Fastest team in the country, again. Highest rank, No. 4. Lowest rank, No. 7. (123 points. Avg. rank between No. 5 and No. 6)

5. TCU: Nation's best defense the past two seasons. Highest rank, No. 4. Lowest rank, No. 11. (113 points. Avg. rank between No. 7 and No. 8)

6. Nebraska: Fitting that these two are tied. They hate each other. Highest rank, No. 5. Lowest rank, No. 11 (112 points. Average rank between No. 7 and No. 8)

7. Oregon: Most talent in the Pac-10. Highest rank, No. 6. Lowest rank, No. 15 (111 points. Avg. rank between No. 7 and No. 8)

8. Texas: Adding physicality to offense. Highest rank, No. 4. Lowest rank, No. No. 11 (110 points. Avg. rank between No. 7 and No. 8)

9. Oklahoma: Rebuilding into Big 12 and national power again. Highest rank, No. 1. Lowest rank, No. 12. (106 points. Avg. rank between No. 8 and No. 9)

10. Virginia Tech: Class of the ACC until further notice. Highest rank, No. 8. Lowest rank, No. 13. (94 points. Avg. rank between No. 10 and No. 11)

11. (tie) USC: Two-year bowl ban begins. Does the dynasty continue? Highest rank, No. 3. Lowest rank, No. 16. (90 points. Avg. rank No. 11)

Iowa: Sexy dark horse pick in the Big Ten. Highest rank, No. 8. Lowest rank, No. 14. (90 points. Avg. rank No. 11)

13. Wisconsin: Fresh from pounding Miami. Factor in Big Ten. Highest rank, No. 6. Lowest rank, No. 23. (82 points. Avg. rank between No. 12 and No. 13)

14. Miami: Starting to look like Canes of old. Highest rank, No. 4. Lowest rank, No. 14. (79 points. Avg. rank between No. 12 and No. 13)

15. Florida State: New coach, healthy quarterback. Great prospects. Highest rank, No. 14. Lowest rank, No. 20. (60 points, Avg. rank No. 16)

16. Arkansas: Petrino starting to work his magic with Ryan Mallett. Highest rank, No. 16. Lowest rank, No. 21. (50 points, Avg. rank between No. 17 and No. 18)

17. North Carolina: Nation's best defense? Highest rank, No. 12. Lowest rank, No. 24. (48 points. Avg. rank No. 18)

18. Pittsburgh: Coming first 10 win season since 1981. Highest rank, No. 14. Not ranked by Steele. (45 points. Avg. rank No. 17)

19. LSU: Les Miles on the hot seat? Highest rank, No. 18. Not ranked by Steele. (35 points. Avg. rank No. 19)

20. Georgia Tech:
Defending ACC champs seem to have gotten better. Highest rank, No. 13. Not ranked by Steele, Yahoo and Athlon. (30 points. Avg. rank No. 16)

21. Auburn: Chizik not ready to cede state to Alabama. Highest rank, No. 15. Not ranked by Lindy's and Yahoo. (29 points. Avg. rank between No. 18 and No. 19)

22. Penn State: JoePa going for No. 400. Highest rank, No. 18. Not ranked by Sporting News. (27 points. Avg. rank No.  20 and No. 21)

23. Georgia: New AD could be the least of Dawgs' problems. Highest rank, No. 15. Not ranked by CBSSports.com and Sporting News. (24 points. Avg. rank No. 20)

24. West Virginia: Noel Devine could carry 'Neers to a BCS bowl. Highest rank, No. 19. Not ranked by Athlon and Yahoo. (16 points. Avg. rank No. 22)

25. Oregon State: Mike Riley always has Beavers in contention. Highest rank, No. 15. Not ranked by CBSSports.com, Steele, Lindy's and Athlon. (15 points. Avg. rank between No. 18 and No. 19)

Other teams receiving votes: Notre Dame, Connecticut, Missouri, South Carolina, Cincinnati, Utah, Houston, Clemson, Arizona, Stanford, Washington, Navy.

Notes: To no one's surprise the SEC led all conferences with six teams in the top 25 (Alabama, Florida, Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, Georgia) ... To everyone's surprise, the ACC was second with five teams (Virginia Tech, Miami, Florida State, North Carolina, Georgia Tech) ... The Big 12 had three of the top 10 (Oklahoma, Texas, Nebraska) ... The ACC, Big Ten and Big 12 each had three teams in the top 15 ... Every national champion since 1999 is represented in the top 25 ... Six states had multiple teams in the poll. Florida led all states with three (Miami, Florida, Florida State).

 

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Comments

Since: Aug 13, 2006
Posted on: July 9, 2010 5:04 pm
 

Buckeyes will drop.....

Ohio State will lose two games during the regular season and end up ranked about 18 going into the bowl games.
Pretty mediocre.



Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: July 9, 2010 4:42 pm
 

Preseason mags' top 25

 That is freaking hilarious!!




Since: Aug 12, 2009
Posted on: July 9, 2010 3:14 pm
 

Preseason mags' top 25

I have no problem with Steele's ranking. His magazine is the best in the country and has been for over a decade. Best reading material out there. I am very anxious to see how Oklahoma lives up to thier spot.



Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: July 9, 2010 1:25 pm
 

Preseason mags' top 25

Nebraska is not in the Big-10.  They will be in the Big 10 in 2011 or 2012.  You're not a logic major either.



Since: Jun 7, 2009
Posted on: July 9, 2010 12:40 pm
 

Preseason mags' top 25

I'm no math major, but it seems to me that my Big Ten (12) have 4 teams in the top 15, not just 3. Thank you Nebraska for helping the league grow.



Since: Feb 23, 2009
Posted on: July 9, 2010 12:30 pm
 

Preseason mags' top 25

So says a fan of a school that uses DUMBO for a mascot.....TOO FUNNY !!!!



Since: Mar 22, 2007
Posted on: July 9, 2010 10:03 am
 

Oh How I Hate Ohio State

Preseason mags' top 25

There's no question that Dennis Dodd has writing skills and I always enjoy reading his rhetoric.  Some of his ideas are really good, very insightful.  He could also be a John Malchovick stand in especially for the love and action movie scenes, but on a more serious side:

Here we go again, trying to rank and critique college football teams:  Beyond Bama, who in my opinion could still easily slip up and lose a conference game this season, I find no true dominant teams.  Boise State I like and I am really glad to see them get recognition but frankly I think their coach Chris Peterson would prefer them to still fly under the radar.

Here is where I have a problem, or should I say problems with these rankings:

Ohio State # 2:  Every year the pollsters bow down to the great acorn, every year the great acorn falters. I have never seen so much unwarranted hype over a team that is good on most days but not great.

TCU # 5:  Maybe they deserve it, maybe not.  I was not impressed with their bowl perfomance against Boise St, this team still needs to prove something for a top 5 ranking.

Top 10 every year:  Texas and Oklahoma, yes these two teams are good, recruit well, but both just lost their starting QB's to the NFL, dare we not however place either team outside of the top 10 ever.  They each do make nice decor in the rankings however, kind of a nice filler for a quality rank spot.

Virginia Tech # 10:  Class of the ACC says Dodd..... I say prove it....  GT handed them a pretty nasty loss last year and I don't see GT as the weaker team though GT was placed at the 19th spot, come on, that option is very hard to defend...  Virginia Tech always gets a favorable rank regardless.

The mighty USC Trojans at # 11:  Frankly I don't see Lane Kiffin doing much of nothing here.  He is no Pete Carroll not that Carroll is much himself.  Add in the probation and the motivation to win just does not seem in place, they just lost a top signee because of it.

Miami the Canes' of Old says Dodd.   Are you kidding me?  They are so far from that comparison it aint' even funny.  I don't see it happening even though the ACC is a weaker conference in my opinion.

Arkansas at # 16:  Potentially potent offense, potential disaster at defense = 8-3 or 7-4 record in the toughest confernece in NCAA.  Petrino is a legend, in his own mind, although I do believe he will create a talented offense with that mammoth QB Mallet and good RB too.  This aint' Louisville Booby.....Bobby I mean

Pitt at 18 is not going to happen.  Dave Wondstadt is a pretty good coach but to have them ranked above LSU 21, Georgia  22 and Auburn 20 is absurd.   Like John Wayne said in the movie The Cowboys, " I've had my back broke once, my hip twice, and on my worst day I could still beat the hell out of you"  Bruce Dern, the actor opposite Wayne just screamed in desparation after that comment.

Teams that should be ranked in the top 15-20 that were left out: 

Washington:  This team showed great promise last year and Sarkasian, the former USC O-Coordinator knows how to win.

Notre Dame:  As much as I hate to say it.  New coach, Brian Kelly will transform this group of underachievers into a respectable group.

So go ahead pollsters and publish your rankings, to me they mean absolutely nothing.  If you really must rank then do so with vigor and courage




Since: Mar 22, 2007
Posted on: July 9, 2010 9:43 am
 

Preseason mags' top 25

There's no question that Dennis Dodds has writing skills and I always reading his rhetoric.  Some of his ideas are really good, very insightful.  He could also be a John Malchovick stand in especially for the love and action scenes, but on a more serious side:

Here we go again, trying to rank and critique college football teams:  Beyond Bama, who in my opinion could still easily slip up and lose a conference game this season, I find no true dominant teams.  Boise State I like and I am really glad to see them get recognition but frankly I think their coach Chris Peterson would prefer them to still fly under the radar.

Here is where I have a problem, or should I say problems with these rankings:

Ohio State # 2:  Every year the pollsters bow down to the great acorn, every year the great acorn falters. I have never seen so much unwarranted hype over a team that is good on most days but not great.

TCU # 5:  Maybe they deserve it, maybe not.  I was not impressed with their bowl perfomance against Boise St, this team still needs to prove something for a top 5 ranking.

Top 10 every year:  Texas and Oklahoma, yes these two teams are good, recruit well, but both just lost their starting QB's to the NFL, dare we not however place either team outside of the top 10 ever.  They each do make nice decor in the rankings however, kind of a nice filler for a rank spot.

Virginia Tech # 10:  Class of the ACC says Dodds, I say prove it....  GT handed them a pretty nasty loss last year and I don't see GT as the weaker team though GT was placed at the 19th spot, come on, that option is very hard to defend...  Virginia Tech always gets a favorable rank regardless.

The mighty USC Trojans at # 11:  Frankly I don't see Lane Kiffin doing much of nothing here.  He is no Pete Carroll not that Carroll is much himself.  Add in the probation and the motivation to win just does not seem in place, they just lost a top signee because of it.

Arkansas at # 16:  Potentially potent offense, potential disaster at defense = 8-3 or 7-4 record in the toughest confernece in NCAA.  Petrino is a legend, in his own mind, although I do believe he will create a talented offense with that mammoth QB Mallet and good RB too.  This aint' Louisville Booby.....Bobby I mean

Pitt at 18 is not going to happen.  Dave Wondstadt is pretty good coach but to have them ranked above LSU 21, Georgia  22 and Auburn 20 is absurd.   Like John Wayne said in the movie The Cowboys, " I've had my back broke once, my hip twice, and on my worst day I could still beat the hell out of you"  Bruce Dern, the actor opposite Wayne just screamed in desparation after that comment.

Teams that should be ranked in the top 15-20 that were left out: 

Washington:  This team showed great promise last year and Sarkasian, the former USC O-Coordinator knows how to win.

Notre Dame:  As much as I hate to say it.  New coach, Brian Kelly will trtansform this group of underachievers into a respectable group.

So go ahead pollsters and publish your rankings, to me they mean absolutely nothing.  If you really must rank then do so with vigor and courage. 



Since: Mar 7, 2009
Posted on: July 9, 2010 8:50 am
 

Preseason mags' top 25

I was wondering the same thing.  Maybe a typo by Dodd?



Since: Feb 23, 2009
Posted on: July 9, 2010 7:23 am
 

Preseason mags' top 25

whs21....They may have walked in wearing jean shorts, but they walked away with a win........which was more important?

WVU OWNS Miss. and Miss St.........even when Manning was QB.......


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