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Agent sleaze emerges from under rocks

Posted on: July 19, 2010 4:24 pm

Thirty-eight states have agent laws on the books, and yet the hits keep on coming.

Florida is the latest on the NCAA investigative list after reported Monday that former offensive line star Maurkice Pouncey may have taken $100,000 from an agent. Coming so quickly after the sleaze at USC, we now have a full-on trend.

In the last week there have been allegations of improper agent dealings at North Carolina and South Carolina. It sounds like someone or some people is dumping on someone else. That's usually how these things start.  "Marketer" Lloyd Lake said last week on HBO that the Reggie Bush never would have come to light had not Bush paid him. Bush allegedly took hundreds of thousands of dollars in benefits from Lake. Look where that landed USC.

With the Florida news, this is beginning to look like an all-out turf war with rival agents dropping dimes on each other. Check out this site for names that are surfacing.

 There's now a Southern sampler platter of Tar Heels, Gamecocks and Gators on the NCAA menu. Obviously, Florida stands to have its Sugar Bowl victory over Cincinnati vacated. The stakes could be higher (meaning: worse) for North Carolina if defensive tackle Marvin Austin and receiver Greg Little are involved with improper dealings with agents. South Carolina tight end Weslye Saunders' name has come for the same reason in Columbia.

My question:  With more than three-quarters of the states having enacted corrupt agents' laws, why are these slime balls still working their deals?  This site details the penalties for improper agent dealings in the state of Florida.


Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: July 22, 2010 6:08 pm

Agent sleaze emerges from under rocks

And dont say that fans would go see the  local college teams play before they go see more quality players.
If it was about the quality of the play, why would anyone want to watch college when you have the NFL?  I'm not football mastermind, but if you pit the worst team in the NFL against the NCS national champ head to head, I would bet the house, cars, and first born daughter on the NFL team -24. 

Since: Sep 4, 2006
Posted on: July 22, 2010 11:06 am

Lane Kiffin is SELLING OUT the SEC !!!!

You heard it here first.... since his program got put in the tank, he figures he might as well take his previous conference down with him, where he wasn't so much loved.  Look at the teams in question !!!!  Didn't they all have a beef with Lane Kiffin ?  He's giving dirt/leads/back room info to these media outlets and they are running with it. 

Since: Aug 25, 2008
Posted on: July 21, 2010 8:07 pm

Agents "Really" are the problem not Universities

We can all sit back and throw stones at the Universites and their compliance departments, but the real problems are with the Agents that understand how to circumvent all of the oversight.  The states or Federal Government needs to pass legislation that makes it a much more serious offense for these agents to coerce player or parents.  If they made it an automatic 20 or 30 year jail term and allowed the Universities to sue the agents and the players for all potential money lost, then it would deter the agents and players from harming the universities.

As much as every person wants to blame the large Universities like Florida, Alabama, Oklahoma and USC and others for allowing this to happen, it is simply too difficult for accounting for the actions of these criminals.  Somehow, someway the Universities and the NCAA need to take the fight to the agents where it truly belongs. 

Since: Jun 30, 2009
Posted on: July 21, 2010 5:39 pm

Agent sleaze emerges from under rocks

TigersRule has the best post of the day so far! It took me over 5 years to pay off my student loans.
I think a class action lawsuit from fans against sleazy agents might be in order. Roll with that idea!

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: July 21, 2010 4:02 pm

Agent sleaze emerges from under rocks

I agree with you... you can add
6) Medical expenses / sports medicine trainers
7) Travel & lush accomodations for away games
8) Pads / Equipment

Anymore?  Basically these athletes probably cost more like 50k per year for each player on a team.

Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: July 21, 2010 3:30 pm

Agent sleaze emerges from under rocks

Explain the net loss thing again. And dont say that fans would go see the  local college teams play before they go see more quality players. When football schools are down and have bad teams, there profits go down too. And that is from.... a lack of butts in the seats. Before you tell me I am misinformed, Arm yourself with facts not opinions. I told the person that I responded to that I totally disagree, not that he was wrong. And after being enlightened by your post, I still do.

However, I agree with your statement about the NFL having a free farm system. They should be held responsible too. I feel players found guilty of violating NCAA rules regarding illegal benefits and agents should be suspended for a year and loose there signing bonuses or something like that. Let the NFL loose a little revenue. Agents should be banned for life and brought up on criminal charges. Only way to protect the integrity of the game.

Just my opinion.

Since: Nov 11, 2009
Posted on: July 21, 2010 1:52 pm

Agent sleaze emerges from under rocks

"It is paying pennies for a product you are selling for thousands."

You are, like many, misinformed.

Nearly all college athletic programs (that is all of the revenue earned by the athletic deparment minus all of the costs of the athlettic program without considering capital costs) are a net loss for the university.

The second point is that much of the value associated with TV rights etc. comes from the brand that is the university.

Third, student-althetes in the revenue sports are already compensated. To be sure, student-athletes work hard, but their direct compensation (tuition, room and board, training and special services) is quite substantial -- and guaranteed at quality schools.

The real culprit here is the NFL. If this is all about a kid playing football and not being paid as a professional and education doesn't matter, you should be asking for the NFL to set up a minor league system. It exists in baseball, hockey, and basketball (foreign professional leagues) -- why not football? Why wouldn't that be a gold mine if it is the players that put the butts in the seats? The answer is simple -- today the NFL gets a minor league system for free. The current set up is worth hundreds of millions of dollars a year to the NFL.

To come back to my point about the value of the university brand, here is an honest question. Suppose there was a minor league NFL franchise in your area. Further suppose that got all of the great players that did not really want to go to college and simply wanted to play football and have their chance at the big bucks and an NFL career. Imagine this team was much better than any local college team (say the Gators). Would you care more about the minor league team or the Gators? The truth is people would still be fans of college football even if the best players never set foot in a university stadium.

Since: Nov 2, 2006
Posted on: July 21, 2010 11:32 am

Agent sleaze emerges from under rocks

WeaselBomb, you couldn't be more correct. What about the small schools? The MAC, the Sun Belt, etc. They make JUST enough to pay for everything.

Since: Apr 17, 2009
Posted on: July 21, 2010 1:05 am

Agent sleaze emerges from under rocks

The truth is that only a handful of any NCAA athletic departments actually make money.  Florida is probably one of those, but after having to fund all of the Olympic sports and the other non-revenue sports, they probably make about $200,000.  These kids are getting a free education, room and board, food and a spending stipend, all tax-free.  When all is said and done, they're coming out with well over $100,000 in assests.  Exploitation?  I think not.

Since: Oct 18, 2006
Posted on: July 20, 2010 8:29 pm


While many of you were jumping on the pile in slamming USC after the NCAA slapped them with sanctions, I couldn't help but wonder what was under the bed so to speak of many of the college programs that you cheer. While Florida and these other schools deserve the benefit of the doubt, none of these recent allegations against the Gators and the others should come as any surprise to anyone half way acquainted with human nature.

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