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BYU cybergossip

Posted on: August 18, 2010 10:58 am

So far it's only anonymously sourced, but there are multiple rumors and reports that BYU is considering leaving the Mountain West to become an independent.

BYU would be prompted to leave the 11-year-old league after Utah bolted to the Pac-10 this summer. BYU may feel that the conference will ultimately be diminished financially and competitively without Utah. With a worldwide following, BYU could keep all its revenue becoming a mini-Notre Dame: Playing football independently and putting its other sports in the WAC.

BYU pulling out would severely damage the Mountain West which thought this summer it hard shored up its BCS chances by grabbing Boise State (beginning in 2011). With Utah leaving for the Pac-10, the Mountain West would be down to eight teams. BYU was not invited to the Pac-10 because it made little sense for the league to get two teams from the Salt Lake City market. Also, there were academic concerns about BYU compared to other Pac-10 institutions. It is neither a member of the elite Association of American Universities nor a highly rated Carnegie research institution. Seven of the 10 current Pac-10 members are both. The other three are either one or the other. Utah, for example, is rated by Carnegie.

The MWC is hoping for automatic BCS qualifier status in 2012 and 2013. The Mountain West is currently being evaluated (along with all other I-A leagues) on a four-year rotating basis. The BCS is halfway through that evaluation process.

Without talking about BYU specifically, Notre Dame AD Jack Swarbrick told this week that it is still possible and advantageous for a school going independent.

"You've got to solve the non-football side of the equation," Swarbrick said, "but it can work. I don't know if there will be others but it wouldn't shock me because the landscape is so fluid."

Swarbrick added he had not spoken to any particular school about it becoming an independent. There are currently only three independents in Division I-A -- Notre Dame, Army and Navy.

This is what BYU AD Tom Holmoe told the Salt Lake City Tribune in July:

"Independence is an option that obviously has been out there. We will look at everything. We have looked at everything. There are pros and cons to the Pac-10, the Big Ten, the Big 12, the Mountain West Conference and independence. With all these things there are pros and cons.

"So what you have to do is you have to weigh those and measure them against what? What is right for BYU. And not for what is right for BYU in the year 2010, but what is right for BYU into the future.

"That is quite a bit more complex than most people understand. You have got a constituency to deal with. You have got a school to deal with. "

Here is the rest of that interview.

Some outlets are citing a tweet, reportedly coming from Colorado State, that the move will be announced at a Thursday press conference. The school was in the process Wednesday morning releasing a statement denying the tweet had come from Colorado State. A school spokesman said someone had hacked into the school account that could be accessed by only three persons from Colorado State.

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Since: Aug 18, 2010
Posted on: August 18, 2010 9:03 pm

BYU cybergossip

I wonder how many championships UNLV would win if the tournament was anywhere else but UNLV's home court. I wonder how many championships they'd win at the Marriott Center. UNLV is a drag on the Mtn West. Go play in the Big Sky where you belong. Dork.

Since: Sep 3, 2007
Posted on: August 18, 2010 6:33 pm

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BoiseMike, cool it with the homerisms.  BYU had an undefeated MWC win streak for two and a half seasons from 2006-2008. And that was against real competition, not like BSU losing to Hawaii in that same time frame.  Boise State keeps trying to be in BYU's conference.  What next, BSU independent?  Don't think so.

Since: Aug 7, 2010
Posted on: August 18, 2010 5:58 pm

BYU cybergossip

BYU can't put together a 1 loss season in their own MWC conference (with an average at best OOC schedule), let alone amping up their schedule as an independent.  BYU leaves the MWC and they will be condemned to a Poinsettia bowl at best. 

Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: August 18, 2010 4:40 pm

BYU cybergossip

Be honest - put down the crack pipe and wake up.


If Boise State can make it to a BCS game playing their relatively light schedule, there is no doubt an independent BYU can do it as well.

BYU can easily put together a decent schedule littered with one big BCS team, a few small BCS teams, and some WAC/MWC teams.

All it takes is replacing New Mexicos and San Diegos with beatable teams like Kansas and South Carolina.

BYU does not need to add a murderers row of heavyweights.

Conversely, TCU will be stuck with those bad teams forever weighing down the resume. 

Had TCU not been hampered by the MWC bottom feeders in the computer segment, they would have played for it all last year.

BYU can be free of that computer hating burden.

IF they do that, they can possibly have BCS bowl games with 1-loss seasons as well.

No 1-loss MWC team is making a BCS bowl games because of the horrible anchors at the bottom of the conference.

A 1-loss independent can very well make a BCS bowl game.

Hence, it becomes easier for them.

Since: Jun 17, 2010
Posted on: August 18, 2010 4:20 pm

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Nice post, however the WAC now has a buyout deal of $5M, which none of those schools can afford.  Reports suggest that Nevada and Fresno State have already declined offers.  If Boise State backs out of the MtnWest, the conference is left with 7 teams and dies.

Since: Aug 7, 2010
Posted on: August 18, 2010 4:08 pm

BYU cybergossip

Make that the entire State of Utah, BYU 2-0, Utah 2-0 and Utah State is a 40 point average drubbing annually.

Since: Aug 7, 2010
Posted on: August 18, 2010 3:59 pm

BYU cybergossip

Horns, hate to correct you but the REAL LOSER is BYU...Boise State owns them.  2-0 and 52 to 10 in Provo.  Yikes! 

Since: Feb 2, 2008
Posted on: August 18, 2010 3:59 pm

BYU cybergossip

"BYU would have a much better chance for the BCS game as an independent.  "

Are you smoking Crack - BYU will NOT have a better chance as an independant - even if they load their schedule with cup cake teams and run the table - they will not get a look at a BCS game. They would need to load their schedule, much like Notre Dame does and schedule BCS schools (and not the bottom BCS schools either) in order to even be looked at. For the last 4-5 years BYU fans have been clammoring that this is the year they make it to the BCS and it has not happened. BYU can not even go through the MWC schedule undefeated - what makes you think adding more quality opponents as an Independant will give them a chance to run the table and go to the BCS.

Be honest - put down the crack pipe and wake up.

Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: August 18, 2010 3:52 pm

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BYU will have no problem scheduling some Big 12 teams as an independent.

The Big 12 would welcome it as a sort of "trial period" in a future courtship.

They could either play big matches in Jerry World in Dallas versus Oklahoma, Texas, or Texas A&M.

With a 65,000 seat stadium (with upgrades planned), they can get home/home series as well with the other teams.

That is lost on the tiny stadium Boise Backers.


BYU and Utah are responsible for the overwhelming lion share of the MWC shared revenues however small they might be.....

They might make more money if they don't have to share it with non-producers.

There is no down side to this move for BYU and only upside.

The real loser is Boise State.

Since: Apr 26, 2008
Posted on: August 18, 2010 3:47 pm

BYU cybergossip


You don't believe that Florida / Alaska Anchorage BCS Championship game will ever happen?


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