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Preseason AP poll analysis

Posted on: August 21, 2010 3:12 pm
Edited on: August 21, 2010 3:24 pm

His name is Joe Giglio of the Raleigh News and Observer.

In 10 keystrokes of brilliance he made himself and his newspaper more relevant. That's not a swipe, that's a salute to the only AP voter to award a No. 1 vote to Boise State. In a year when the whole seems to have turned Crimson, Giglio hopefully made us aware of the obvious.

Boise State can win the national championship. Not just because it is ranked No. 5 in the coaches' poll and No. 3 in AP. True, it is positioned well to make a run -- Virginia Tech, Oregon State and the bye known as the WAC schedule.

But you have to see these guys play. I don't mean reading a preseason mag, I mean really see them play. For some not-fully-explained reason, every time Boise plays "up" it seems to win. (4-1 vs. BCS schools since 2006) I already wrote that coach Chris Petersen is upset that the Broncos aren't the cuddly underdog anymore.

Now we have to admit they are a powerhouse. What other proof do you need? They're not good because of who they don't play. You can only play the teams in your conference. You certainly can't criticize them for playing a weak non-conference schedule.

If Boise State gets to the championship game, it will have earned it. Giglio is like me. His eyes have been opened.

Other observations about the AP preseason poll ...

This is the first time since 1978, Alabama has been the AP preseason No 1. In the wire service era, Alabama is 72-8-3 in years after national championships.

The highest-ranked Big East team is Pittsburgh at No. 15. This important only because of the Panthers' schedule which has them playing Utah and Miami in the first four weeks.

To no one's surprise, the SEC has six teams in the top 25.

At No. 14, USC has its lowest preseason rank since 2002, Pete Carroll's second year.

At No. 23, Georgia has its lowest preseason AP rank since 2001.

The farthest back a team has come to win a championship in the BCS era is LSU in 2003. It was No. 12 in the first BCS rankings.


Since: Jul 18, 2008
Posted on: August 25, 2010 10:46 am

Preseason AP poll analysis

nice to see a fan of an SEC team with some sense!  Im a BSU fan and do not think we could win the sec year after year like FL and AL. have done!  but i think it would be a different story if we had their recruits and $$$$!   thanks for some love!!!

Since: Aug 20, 2010
Posted on: August 24, 2010 6:24 pm
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Since: Aug 9, 2010
Posted on: August 24, 2010 11:10 am

Preseason AP poll analysis

Gator, do you really think you can compare appalachian st. to boise?? I actually think that the surprising thing about boise is that they do seem to be reloading. Most people, myself included, thought that they would have one or two good years and then fall off the radar. The consistency of Boise, and teams like TCU and Utah for that matter, for the last few years has been impressive.

About last year.....this is why everybody wanted the BCS to split up Boise and TCU, so that we could see what these schools could do against BCS powerhouses. While I'm not saying that Boise would've beaten those three teams, I'm not dismissing the fact that they had the potential to do so. After all, they did beat Oregon by about the same margin that OSU did last year.

Since: Aug 27, 2006
Posted on: August 24, 2010 1:33 am

Preseason AP poll analysis

, my point is, all those teams I mentioned (and apparently other people added some teams) would ALSO go undefeated in the WAC if they were in it INSTEAD of Boise St. I understand that Boise can only play the teams on their schedule, but it's just not a level playing field, and it never will be. Your boys don't have to go through the weekly pounding a BSC conference team does. Your team would be ravaged by injuries after a full SEC, ACC, PAC 10, BIG Ten, or BIG 12 schedule.

  While I'm sure you'll give us a whale of a game on Labor Day and, after your Oregon St game, you'll breeze through the rest of your schedule without breaking a sweat. My Hokies, on the other hand, will be playing three other RANKED teams in their own DIVISION in the ACC. Not exactly the same, is it?

Since: Oct 30, 2006
Posted on: August 24, 2010 12:33 am

Preseason AP poll analysis

im not trying to bash....its just a matter of fact. The floridas and bamas texas ect constantly you really think boise st would have beaten bama florida or texas last year? if so...youve allowed appalachian st to  cloud your mind...and no offense to oklahoma, but theyve highly far back as getting throttled by usc when they shouldnt have been in the the loss to boise st...they have a very bad bcs bowl record  going 2-5..whereas florida is 5-1...just saying 

Since: Aug 9, 2010
Posted on: August 23, 2010 10:51 pm

Preseason AP poll analysis

Boise is not a powerhouse. They have not had enough consistent results over a long period of time to be considered in that category. However, I would not say that they aren't worthy of the #1 spot. First off, there are very few teams that have a shot at going undefeated this year. Alabama has tough competition that will have an additional week to prep, OSU has to deal with tough Iowa and Wisconsin teams, Florida and Texas have a lot of questionmarks at vital positions.....the list could easily go on. Boise has tough games against VT and Oregon St., but those games are winnable. Boise was a great team last year that could've beat most teams in the BCS in the bowl game. So why question how good they'll be considering where they left off last year and they have 22 starters returning???

Boise St is doing what they can with their non-conference schedule. I can't imagine that it's easy to get a top team to play them in a non-conference game anymore.

Since: May 22, 2007
Posted on: August 23, 2010 9:56 pm

Preseason AP poll analysis

...but true!

Since: May 11, 2010
Posted on: August 23, 2010 2:10 pm

Preseason AP poll analysis

The preseason polls are a joke.  Invariably, the Big East has only 2 or 3 teams ranked in the preseason and almost never in the Top 10.  Then, every year, by some stroke of divinity, they always end up with 4 or 5 teams ranked with at least 1 in the top 5 or 6.  The continous need to climb up the polls prevents undefeated teams from playing for the national championship unless they happen to be from the SEC, Big 12, Big 10, or USC (no longer a problem).  Make no mistake, even if Boise goes undefeated they will not play for the NC unless the best teams from the SEC, BIG 12, and Big 10 have at least 2 losses.  The strength of schedule will prevent them.  If we are going to have this ridiculous BCS system that uses polls to determine who should play in the national championship game, then the 1st poll shouldn't come out until mid-season.

Since: Jan 24, 2007
Posted on: August 23, 2010 2:04 pm

Boise State's Chances Depend On...

I thought we all would have understood this by now in college football. Gauging Boise State's season (and thus their worthiness for a berth in the BCS Championship game) doesn't just depend the Broncos go undefeated. It matters how good their opponents do the rest of the season. For example, if Pittsburgh goes undefeated but the best of the rest in the Big East muddle along at no better than a lackluster 8-4 or 9-3, then most fans and pundits will loudly protest that the Panthers are products of a weak conference (although Pitt's non-conf. schedule is impressive).

So Boise State needs to root for Va. Tech and Oregon State to bounce back from losses to the Broncos and string together seasons at or near a BCS bowl level. Likely, unless at least one of them wins their conference, voters will have trouble putting 12-0 Boise State in the BCS championship game ahead of 12-0 Ohio State and 11-1 Big 12 or SEC winners. The argument would be that the Broncos beat two BCS conference teams having decent but unspectacular years.

Ironically, this part of the college football success formula often collides with another: margin of victory. Which ultimately looks better for Boise State? Blowing out the Hokies by 28 points and sending Beamer's boys to an uncharacteristically tepid 8-4 campaign? Or nosing Va. Tech out at the last minute and seeing the Hokies respond with by winning the ACC? Most voters use the level of opponents' play to validate a team's play.

Since: Oct 8, 2007
Posted on: August 23, 2010 1:29 pm

Preseason AP poll analysis

UNC is a tough team.  you obviously dont know jack sheeit about college football.

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