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FWAA vacates USC 2004 title

Posted on: August 26, 2010 8:13 am
Edited on: August 26, 2010 2:30 pm
 

The Football Writers Association of America has vacated USC's 2004 national championship and asked the school to return the Grantland Rice Trophy that symbolized that title.

The announcement was made Thursday morning after a resolutions committee voted by confidential ballot. USC will be eligible for the FWAA's preseason poll but cannot win the trophy in 2010. The action was taken after NCAA penalties were handed down in June. Among other violations, the NCAA concluded that former tailback Reggie Bush competing while ineligible

The Grantland Rice Trophy has been awarded continuously to its national champion since 1954 by the FWAA. The BCS is on record as saying it will vacate the USC title if the school's NCAA appeal fails. The Heisman Trophy Trust is still discussing its stance on Bush's 2004 award. Shortly after taking the job, new USC AD Pat Haden ordered the school's copy of Bush's trophy returned to the trust.

Tim Griffin, the current FWAA president, wrote this in his letter notifying USC of the FWAA's decisions: "Had these facts been known, USC would not have been selected for the award ... in light of standards applicable to FWAA poll participants, award candidates and award recipients. All finalists for FWAA team and individual awards, including the Grantland Rice Award and Trophy, reasonably are presumed to have been in material compliance with certain qualifying standards at the time of award issuance."

The coaches' poll is not ranking USC this season because the school is on NCAA probation. USC remains eligible to be ranked in the Associated Press poll and can finish No. 1. It is No. 14 in the AP preseason poll. The AP did not strip USC of its 2004 title.

The FWAA took no action to elevate a new champion for 2004. It stated that USC is eligible for its preseason poll but will not be eligible to be voted on in its season-ending poll. Auburn was also notified of Thursday's action by the FWAA. In addition to USC, Auburn and Utah also finished undefeated that season.

The FWAA is one of four major championship selectors recognized by the NCAA. This is the first time the FWAA has taken such action.

(Dennis Dodd is a past president of the FWAA and was a member of the resolutions committee on this matter)

Category: NCAAF
Tags: Auburn, USC, Utah
 
Comments

Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: August 26, 2010 4:26 pm
 

FWAA vacates USC 2004 title

keep cheating....fight on




Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: August 26, 2010 3:46 pm
 

FWAA vacates USC 2004 title

They wouldn't have won though without the cheating, because USC got all the good recruits because those recruits knew they would get free $tuff. 



Since: Aug 26, 2010
Posted on: August 26, 2010 3:37 pm
 

FWAA vacates USC 2004 title

LOL@ kj -  you guys dream up some great theories for your moral championships.



Since: Oct 18, 2006
Posted on: August 26, 2010 3:24 pm
 

FWAA vacates USC 2004 title

Dear FWAA,

     The University of Southern California Trojans would like to apologize for the amount of time that it has taken for us to return the Grantland Rice Trophy. It seems that the problem is that we were unaware that we had received the trophy. In fact, we didn't even know that your organization existed or that you gave out any awards. We did, however, manage to find the box (unopened as you can see) in the women's soccer team offices. The person who receives our mail thought that FWAA has something to do with women's sports and sent the box there.

     We would like to thank you for recoginizing the accomplishments of the 2004 USC Trojans mens football team and were honored to have held the title while we did. Now that we are aware of your existence, rest assured that if we are fortunate enough to receive such a prestigious award in the future, we will proudly display it in Heritage Hall.

Sincerely,

The University of Southern California Trojans

Funniest post of the day!  I almost spit my drink all over my laptop!



Since: Aug 10, 2006
Posted on: August 26, 2010 3:13 pm
 

FWAA vacates USC 2004 title

No UAAlum...you sound ridiculous. 

The 2004 Auburn team would have destroyed the 2009 Alabama team.  The two teams really are not even comparable. 

Alabama needed umm lets see....a blocked field goal against a terrible Tennessee team where it wasnt even really blocked...the Tenn kicker just kicked it straight into the fat belly of Cody....to win that game at home.

Then, they needed the homer call of the year from Tide fan Dick Burleson in the replay booth to seal the win against LSU...easily the biggest home job of the year on the LSU interception.

Then, Ingram is held to what 20 yards or some crap against a very bad defensive Auburn team and barely squaks out a win in Jordan Hare.

Then, uh yeah its still not over, you get lucky and play Texas without their best player.  A guy who is the all time winner in football history, yet he gets hurt in the last game of his career. 

The 2009 Alabama team was no where near the dominant team that 04 Auburn was.  The only good thing the Albama 09 team did that would rival with what Auburn did was the beatdown they put on Florida in the SEC title game.  Other than that, Alabama was very beatable, and although they did get through their schedule unbeaten, they were by no means dominant.  Dude, you almost lost to Tenn, Auburn, LSU, even Kentucky played you guys well...VT was in the game.  Dominant?  Maybe defensively, but as a whole no. 

The 2004 Auburn team basically moved the ball at will all year.  The only game they had trouble with was the LSU game...which Auburn had to claw to win.  The first half of the Alabama game was tough for Auburn coming into Tuscaloosa, but we settled down and destroyed Alabama the second half, and we threw the ball maybe two more times after opening up a two TD lead.  The rest of the games on Auburn schedule that year were over at halftime...and we could have beat teams much more than we did. Many would argue the reason Auburn got left out that year was because Tuberville never laid it on.  In the second half in almost all our games we just ran the clock out.  Even in our bowl game...we were beating VT 16-0 with 7 min left and just running through the motions..the players got lazy and gave up two 80 yard bombs to make that game look closer than it was. 

Auburn dominated everyone we played except LSU.  Alabama was very fotunate to win several games and got some really lucky breaks.  But I will say Alabama is definately the 2nd best SEC team produced during these run of championships from the SEC.  Neither LSU team or the two Florida teams that one hold a candle.  I guess you could start with the fact those teams all did lose!!!!!!!!!!!!  Wow, what a world...LSU can have two losses and win one, Florida can have a loss and win one...Auburn goes undefeated and cant even share...good call!!!  Dont want that reject title anyway. 

 



Since: Oct 22, 2009
Posted on: August 26, 2010 3:01 pm
 

FWAA vacates USC 2004 title

UNIVERSITY OF SECOND CLASS.   AS USUAL.





Since: Aug 26, 2010
Posted on: August 26, 2010 2:38 pm
 

FWAA vacates USC 2004 title

For years and years, USC has played up the advantages of being near Hollywood. I remember Charles White being featured doing acting gigs, way back when. USC and Pete Carrol took advantage of their location and allowed way too much access to the team. If you don't think recruits knew about the lax oversight you are naive. It was a recruiting violation, by allowing an atmosphere that attracts athletes, who are looking to get paid. Players tell the recruits what is up.



Since: Aug 22, 2008
Posted on: August 26, 2010 2:30 pm
 

FWAA vacates USC 2004 title

Dear FWAA,

     The University of Southern California Trojans would like to apologize for the amount of time that it has taken for us to return the Grantland Rice Trophy. It seems that the problem is that we were unaware that we had received the trophy. In fact, we didn't even know that your organization existed or that you gave out any awards. We did, however, manage to find the box (unopened as you can see) in the women's soccer team offices. The person who receives our mail thought that FWAA has something to do with women's sports and sent the box there.

     We would like to thank you for recoginizing the accomplishments of the 2004 USC Trojans mens football team and were honored to have held the title while we did. Now that we are aware of your existence, rest assured that if we are fortunate enough to receive such a prestigious award in the future, we will proudly display it in Heritage Hall.

Sincerely,

The University of Southern California Trojans



Since: Jan 5, 2007
Posted on: August 26, 2010 2:29 pm
 

FWAA vacates USC 2004 title

Sad day to be an Auburn fan, not only was War Eagle the best team in all the land that year but that was easilty the best team the SEC has produced since Mr. Walker resided in Athens. More impressive was the fact that they did it when the SEC was more than two teams deep and there is no asterisk next to that team in the record books unlike last year's Bama team that shouldn't have been allowed to play for the title being on probation, or the year before when Florida was only the fifth best team in the country behind USC, Texas, Penn State and Utah or the year before that when LSU was only the fourth best team and so forth. Simply put, that Auburn team was the only great team the SEC has produced in the BCS era and they did when the conference was the best in the land, something no other SEC team has done, ever.


This is the new biggest pile of  C R A P posted on these boards..EVER. Everything you wrote is complete BS...not just a little, Complete BS.

No need for an asterisk next to 'Bama. Probation does not exclude one from the BCS unless that is part of the probation. 2004 AU team was a dam fan team, not the bet since Walker came from GA, far from it. I'd say it was lucky if it is the 3rd or 4th best between 2000-2009.

But great logic you got there....d-bag loser.



Since: Dec 22, 2008
Posted on: August 26, 2010 2:09 pm
 

FWAA vacates USC 2004 title

"Who cares?  NCAA Div 1 Football does not have a national champion anyway.  There is no way to know who was best that year or any other year.

Oh...CBS - you need to go back to the old format.  This new format blows.  Not sure which is worse, your new format or the BCS."

The only way to know that is to play it off. Does anybody think the Grantland Rice Trophy added anything to the argument that USC was better than LSU that year? Or means anything now that its taken away?

And yeah, the new format does blow.


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