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FWAA vacates USC 2004 title

Posted on: August 26, 2010 8:13 am
Edited on: August 26, 2010 2:30 pm

The Football Writers Association of America has vacated USC's 2004 national championship and asked the school to return the Grantland Rice Trophy that symbolized that title.

The announcement was made Thursday morning after a resolutions committee voted by confidential ballot. USC will be eligible for the FWAA's preseason poll but cannot win the trophy in 2010. The action was taken after NCAA penalties were handed down in June. Among other violations, the NCAA concluded that former tailback Reggie Bush competing while ineligible

The Grantland Rice Trophy has been awarded continuously to its national champion since 1954 by the FWAA. The BCS is on record as saying it will vacate the USC title if the school's NCAA appeal fails. The Heisman Trophy Trust is still discussing its stance on Bush's 2004 award. Shortly after taking the job, new USC AD Pat Haden ordered the school's copy of Bush's trophy returned to the trust.

Tim Griffin, the current FWAA president, wrote this in his letter notifying USC of the FWAA's decisions: "Had these facts been known, USC would not have been selected for the award ... in light of standards applicable to FWAA poll participants, award candidates and award recipients. All finalists for FWAA team and individual awards, including the Grantland Rice Award and Trophy, reasonably are presumed to have been in material compliance with certain qualifying standards at the time of award issuance."

The coaches' poll is not ranking USC this season because the school is on NCAA probation. USC remains eligible to be ranked in the Associated Press poll and can finish No. 1. It is No. 14 in the AP preseason poll. The AP did not strip USC of its 2004 title.

The FWAA took no action to elevate a new champion for 2004. It stated that USC is eligible for its preseason poll but will not be eligible to be voted on in its season-ending poll. Auburn was also notified of Thursday's action by the FWAA. In addition to USC, Auburn and Utah also finished undefeated that season.

The FWAA is one of four major championship selectors recognized by the NCAA. This is the first time the FWAA has taken such action.

(Dennis Dodd is a past president of the FWAA and was a member of the resolutions committee on this matter)

Category: NCAAF
Tags: Auburn, USC, Utah

Since: Aug 8, 2008
Posted on: August 26, 2010 12:16 pm

We all knew...

As soon as Pete Carroll suddenly left top-tier program USC for the Seattle Seahawks, he must have known a lot of trouble was on its way. Congrats Pete on a fine escape, just before the program started sinking from a mess created under your watch. I'll bet Jim Harrick and Tim Floyd are very proud.  

Since: Feb 4, 2008
Posted on: August 26, 2010 12:13 pm

FWAA vacates USC 2004 title

Thank you thank you thank you thank you. Finally the first person I have seen on these message boards besides me who has the mental compacity and the balls to look at the situation without bias. The personal benefits Reggie Bush received have NOTHING to do with football, and evertything to do with the unrealistic vision and regulations of the NCAA. And since the NCAA makes these types of rules...when a player does wrong, the orgnization shouldnt suffer this badly. It reminds me of the the same type of crap teachers used to pull in elementary school. If one kid misbehaved, instead of punishing just the kid,..they'd punish the whole class. It's a stupid and ridiculous hypocritical circus, and under these ridiculous circumstances, every school should be investigated routinely for potential "benenfits" that star players may be getting hook-ups from the outside. I promise ain't just USC. And if the NCAA only moves when some, dirty, under-handed whistel blowing organization that was deeply associated with the filth that was the Bush bribe machine...the credibility of the fairness and oversight of the NCAA to sincerely enforce these rules without looking like complete jack asses is deeply in question.

Since: Apr 19, 2008
Posted on: August 26, 2010 12:10 pm
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Since: May 27, 2010
Posted on: August 26, 2010 12:03 pm

FWAA vacates USC 2004 title

And kj, you sound ridiculous. Alabama deserves an asterisk because they are on probation? They were serving the punishment doled out by the NCAA, and nowhere in that punishment was Alabama banned from postseason play, loss of scholarships, etc. They were basically on good behavior. So you should be quiet now. Last year's Alabama team would have beat the 2004 Barners, and so would the 2008 Florida team. You're saying there were four teams better than that team that year? You need to take off your Barner glasses. To say that the 2004 Barner team was the best team the SEC has produced, and the ONLY good one at that, makes you look stupid, even by Auburn standards.

Since: Oct 13, 2008
Posted on: August 26, 2010 11:58 am

FWAA vacates USC 2004 title

funny how the vote was "confidential" as none of those cowardice writers will go on record with their votes. They will not award the title to Auburn or Utah.  it will simply be vacted as USC will always be the true champ that year.

some of you out there can cry arrogance or what have you, but jealousy gets you nowhere.  Yes, Bush screwed USC and USC is paying the price, but for you dirt bags out there that say "USC deserved this", it just shows your pettiness.  The present players did NOT deserve this.  The administration and coaching staff deserve to take the brunt and Mike Garrett FINALLY paid the price with his job (forced to retire rtaher than be publicly fired by the new USC Prez).

The haters need to get over it and move on.

Since: May 27, 2010
Posted on: August 26, 2010 11:57 am

FWAA vacates USC 2004 title

If the AP picked USC as #1 at the end of the season then they would lose all credibility with me. Not that they have much since they have already awarded USC with one when they didn't play in the BCS Championship game back in 2003.

Since: Sep 4, 2006
Posted on: August 26, 2010 11:33 am

FWAA vacates USC 2004 title

Sad day to be an Auburn fan, not only was War Eagle the best team in all the land that year but that was easilty the best team the SEC has produced since Mr. Walker resided in Athens. More impressive was the fact that they did it when the SEC was more than two teams deep and there is no asterisk next to that team in the record books unlike last year's Bama team that shouldn't have been allowed to play for the title being on probation, or the year before when Florida was only the fifth best team in the country behind USC, Texas, Penn State and Utah or the year before that when LSU was only the fourth best team and so forth. Simply put, that Auburn team was the only great team the SEC has produced in the BCS era and they did when the conference was the best in the land, something no other SEC team has done, ever.

Since: Oct 1, 2007
Posted on: August 26, 2010 11:11 am

FWAA vacates USC 2004 title

SC408, All I will remember is how AU started the SEC domination, and Utah could have beaten just about anyone that season.  Instead, AU had to continue their down and dirty domination (like the alliteration?) of VT, while the BCS sent Pitt to play Utah, like lambs to the slaughter.  I forgot the score of USC and OK already.

Since: Aug 26, 2010
Posted on: August 26, 2010 10:54 am

FWAA vacates USC 2004 title

Who?  Never heard of 'em.  But if they're sports writers than they're all d-bags anyway so who cares.


Since: Sep 30, 2008
Posted on: August 26, 2010 10:54 am

FWAA vacates USC 2004 title

Make sure you give the Trophy to Auburn or Oklahoma they probably deserve it as they did not play the Trojans on the field to win it, but who knows, perhaps one of them will accept the trophy. Don't forget Utah! They deserve the trophy as much as Auburn does!

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