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North Carolina, Mary Poppins and the NCAA

Posted on: August 27, 2010 11:28 am
Edited on: August 27, 2010 11:31 am
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Who knew Mary Poppins could conjugate a verb?

Butch Davis' "nanny" reportedly wrote papers for North Carolina's players. Seriously? My first reaction was: define nanny. I mean, really. Was she licensed? I googled "nanny service" and "Chapel Hill" and got three hits: Triangle Mothercare Inc., Take a Minute housecleaning, organizing and babysitting and -- ah, here it is -- Thee Nanny Service.

The page didn't open. I've heard them called au pairs or baby sitters more than nannys. The only nanny I know has bad dental work, Nanny McPhee. Shame on Emma Thompson for taking the check for that one.

The job title conjures up images of proper English women with umbrellas and really tight buns (Hairstyle, people! Hairstyle!). I suspect what we're talking about here is semantics. "Nanny" is a lot more inflammatory than "babysitter" or "tutor". Take the words "Nanny" "NCAA" "wrote papers" and "North Carolina" and you've got the makings of a New York Post headline.

Take that image and plop it down in the middle of Carolina's football program and ... well, it's unbelievable.

Unbelievable because Davis is a fixer. The tragic irony of this North Carolina story is that Davis got Miami back on track after crippling NCAA penalties in the 1990s. It was his recruiting that provided the foundation for the 2001 national championship (coached by Larry Coker). Before that, the Canes were what USC is going to be in coming years. Down, out, playing scrubs.

Then a week before signing day, Davis left for the NFL and you couldn't blame him for returning to his roots. Davis was arguably on his way to repeating the Miami turnaround at Carolina. The Tar Heels haven't been relevant in football since Mack Brown 13 years ago. Now this.

There are NCAA investigations on two fronts. Just when you thought the South Beach party possibly involving defender Marvin Austin, looked bad, the real sordid stuff hit Thursday. A nanny/tutor/whatever writing papers for players. The school called it "academic misconduct". Let's call it what it is (if true) -- academic fraud.

That's lack of institutional control stuff. Given the current mood among the NCAA infractions committee, that's USC-like stuff, aka coming within an eyelash of the death penalty. Sure it's early. As we speak, an entire armored division of lawyers are headed to Chapel Hill.

But it's these early stages that freak people out. Las Vegas sportsbooks began taking North Carolina-LSU off the board. The line moved North Carolina being favored to LSU. The only tangible "penalties" so far are that a few players were shifted over to the scout team. That's not punitive. That's sensible. Davis likely knows he won't be able to use them against LSU (at least), why practice them with the first team?

No jokes here: This has to hurt North Carolina. It is a great academic institution. It's pride and rep have been wounded. In a way, it's a reminder that this kind of stuff can happen anywhere. If there is any solace, there's always a spoonful of sugar ...

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heelbama
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Since: Aug 28, 2010
Posted on: August 28, 2010 5:10 pm
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North Carolina, Mary Poppins and the NCAA

USC did nothing wrong?  Please.  Your current AD and university president beg to differ with you.

USC did everything wrong in response to the allegations.  They had 1 compliance officer for the entire department, and they apparently didn't do much to change things once the Bush Allegations came to light -- see, OJ Mayo.  Garrett's entire attitude towards the NCAA, one that reflected the university's attitude towards the NCAA in general during their investigation, was defiant.  Then, months before the final meeting, McKnight starts driving around in a car that a wanna-be marketer purchased for his girlfiend and Garrett hires Kiffin.  I am not sure what more USC could have done to scream, "We're not changing, and you can't make us change."

The only way you can compare USC to UNC will be if Baddour starts telling the NCAA to go jump off a bridge, reduces the compliance department to one guy in a cubicle, Davis leaves for the NFL, Baddour hires Ed Orgeron as head coach to replace him, and Roy Williams recruits the latest one-and-done with a neon sign hanging around his neck that blares, "will play for highest bidder."

UNC's going to get punished here.  But the punishment won't be as bad as USC's and it won't be as bad for the simple reason UNC takes the allegations seriously.


BrianC6234
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Posted on: August 28, 2010 3:05 pm
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North Carolina, Mary Poppins and the NCAA

USC did nothing wrong and were hit hard. The NCAA better destroy North Carolina over this story. This one looks like the school was involved, unlike USC. At USC it was stupid parents who were greedy and Reggie Bush and OJ Mayo breaking a couple rules. Nothing else. If North Carolina gets off easy we'll know the NCAA is a fraud. Which it is anyway.


heelbama
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Posted on: August 28, 2010 1:55 pm
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North Carolina, Mary Poppins and the NCAA

First of all, I am not sure where the notion that Butch "cleaned up" Miami comes from.  Randy Shannon takes a lot of grief for not signing some south Florida kids, and I have to believe he has good reasons for avoiding them.  I don't recall Butch ever taking such bullets.  I am not suggesting he did anything wrong at Miami or UNC, but he gets too much credit for being a "white knight" down there.

Second, John Blake's resume includes Barry Switzer and Jackie Sherrill.  His tenure as HC at Oklahoma was an unmitigated disaster.  He was part of the Cowboys organization at a time when players were hanging out in hotel rooms with hookers and blow and the HC was running a hand-gun through airport security machines.  He was part of a college program that came to be synonymous with everything wrong with college sports -- Switzer's Oklahoma of the late 80's.  This is the guy who has been anointed our recruiting director and assistant head coach.

Third, two principal figures in both probes stand directly next to these two coaches, nameley Wichard and the tutor.

It would be nice for every article to run the disclaimer that while all of these things look bad individually and even worse collectively, there's no actual evidence to suggest the coaches were actively involved.  However, a program like UNC receives a lot of media attention, and that attention becomes a two-edged sword when stuff like this happens.  I'm a UNC graduate, and I tend to think like the NCAA when I see such a collection of circumstantial evidence: cynical.

Ask yourself this:  if this were Duke's basketball program, and you had an agent who happened to be the best friend of Chris Collins involved in one probe and a (former) university employee who had done personal business with Kin the other, would you be so quick to demand a more stringent journalistic separation between proven fact and rampant supposition?

I'm disgusted -- not because I believe Carolina coaches were deliberately doing anything untoward, but because they get paid enough to make sure crap like this doesn't happen.  A couple of players on a trip during spring break?  Well, ok.  A couple of players on the opposite coast training in a facility and with a NFL player both connected to the agent of an assistant coach's best friend?  Well, ok.      A tutor who knows Butch's family personally putting half the defense at academic risk?  Well..., um....

One of the incidents is understandable and forgivable.  Collectively, they represent a football program where, for whatever reason, a culture of "the rules don't apply to me" had become pervasive.  That's on Butch and Dick.  Sorry, they have to go.  Yes, based solely on what we know at this moment.


uncfansens86
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Posted on: August 28, 2010 11:28 am
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North Carolina, Mary Poppins and the NCAA

wbguitar1 - Like I said before, I never denied that athletes at my school did anything. Something happened, I'm sure of it. What I'm saying here is that rumors are constantly being posted about it and its poor journalism. When the journalist ran the story about Calipari paying for Anthony Davis' commitment, lawyers got involved. CBS, however, is allowed to post stories claiming that players have been kicked off the team (when they haven't) and that Coach Davis hired the tutor as a nanny (which he didn't) without any backlash. If North Carolina didn't have enough going on, I wouldn't be surprised if lawyers had gotten involved here too. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they actually received a call about their articles, considering they removed the original post and edited to it "gray" out the accusations. The kid they have reporting about the subject is a blogger and correspondent for a rival program and he has reported numerous rumors about UNC, of which I've known none to have come true (see Larry Drew transfer). How they let somebody of this 'caliber' continue to report for them is baffling. 

And as for Calipari... I do not latch onto it as fact. If you read my post, I clearly state that it is the MEDIA who latches onto it as fact. It is my entire point in making the statement. When news of Kentucky recruiting improprieties comes out, its treated as just another story because people simply assume it is true. It isn't until lawyers get involved that 'journalists' start to consider retracting their stories. Here, with UNC, it is treated as breaking news and rumors run wild. While you can claim that this stuff happens 'everywhere,' you can also be wrong. There is a reason that certain schools have quality reputations and others do not. It may have never been 'proven' that Calipari had every committed a violation himself but his guilt by association is nauseating. When you hire a coach with such a questionable past, you are going to take a hit to your credibility and your reputation, regardless of whether it is rightfully deserved. As for UNC, however, we hired a coach with a reputation for CLEANING UP programs (though ours has been clean for essentially its entire existence) and yet we can't get any credit. These guys can't wait for the facts to come out so they must make them up as they go with 'sources' that perpetually go unnamed. My point is, violations at UNC are more news-worthy than they are at Kentucky because of our reputation. I prefer the reputation and the unjustified publicity over the alternative but I do think that the portrayal of the events thus far should be a little more grounded in fact than they have been. Thats all I'm asking: get your facts before you report.  


uncfansens86
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Posted on: August 28, 2010 11:00 am
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North Carolina, Mary Poppins and the NCAA

eastbayroths - Do you really believe that all 'rule-breaking' is equal? Do you believe that about all things in life? Is murder on par with petty theft? Is Hitler no worse than a common criminal? I mean come on, that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Some rules violations ARE worse than others. My example made this perfectly clear. If a university is complicit in rules violations, it is surely worse than when athletes engage in improper conduct on their own accord. This is the point that the media seems to be blending, relying on rumors to fill in the bridge between the athletes and the university. No one knows what happened but we aren't getting the benefit of the doubt. When you uphold a high-standard of integrity and do things 'the right way' for so long, I feel you should at least be afforded some basic respect. Sadly, we have been given little. 


uncfansens86
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Posted on: August 28, 2010 10:52 am
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North Carolina, Mary Poppins and the NCAA

Read my post again, this time with YOUR blinders off. Not once did I claim my school was innocent. What I claimed was that the media is equating the UNPROVEN infractions with PROVEN violations and utilizing them in a manner that gets them readers. They are bending the truth and perpetuating rumors at the expense of a program with an otherwise sterling reputation. Its poor journalism and is worthy of condemnation. 


Bulls_Life
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Posted on: August 28, 2010 12:01 am
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North Carolina, Mary Poppins and the NCAA

I am happy the way that UNC is handling the situation. As a fan and soon a student at UNC, I am very disappointed. I have been a Tarheels fan for as long as I have lived and seeing UNC being high on not only basketball, but in academics and seeing this is hard to take in. I told my dad when UNC hired Butch that it could end up. Looks like I could be right. What hurts the most is seeing our football program that we have longed for so long rising up so well, and no could potentially take a nose dive. The other things that bother me is that these are not recruiting violations! They are stinking academic violations. Half of the football/athletes go into business and communications. THE EASIEST degrees to get! Are you telling me these guys cannot get through a business course? WOW.


ecisgod
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Posted on: August 27, 2010 9:00 pm
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uncfansens86 - Do you understand that if you or I as a regular student turned in work that someone else did & called it our own we would be kicked out of school?  We would probably not get to transfer to another school either.  This is a VERY serious allegation.  If they are proven true & the players are not expelled from school they are getting the deal of a lifetime because they can play football.



LJA24
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Posted on: August 27, 2010 9:00 pm
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The only nanny I know has bad dental work, Nanny McPhee . Really Dodd?  The only nanny you know is Nanny McPhee?  The most obvious of all nannies, Elin Nordgren didn't cross your mind?  Seriously?

As has been pointed out, this article is nothing more than rumors and outlandish opinions.  Having a tutor write papers for a small group of players on one team, with the coach seemingly having no knowledge, is nowhere near "death penalty" worthy. 

And to the poster who said that cheating is cheating....no it's not.  At least not in the eyes of the NCAA.  That's why there are different penalties, depending on the SEVERITY of the violations/cheating.  It's a big difference when a coach knows this stuff goes on and basically promotes it by turning a blind eye, and a coach or program having no idea that papers are being written for a few of their players.  That should be obvious.


rogueveda
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Posted on: August 27, 2010 8:56 pm
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My God, UNCFan ... take your blinders off. You sound so pathetic.

Waaa! Waaaa! My school is innocent!! Waaaa!



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