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Miami about to be taken down by a rat. Fair?

Posted on: August 31, 2010 11:32 am
 

Isn't it odd how it's not an NCAA investigation until somebody gets screwed?

The old adage goes: It's not cheating unless you get caught. And sometimes the NCAA doesn't catch you, it seems, until the cheaters get cheated. Nevin Shapiro is serving time in federal prison for allegedly running a $900 million Ponzi scheme. He was once a Miami booster who apparently was more than good friends with more than a few Hurricane players. Shapiro told the Miami Herald this week that he'll write a tell-all book detailing Miami wrongdoing since 2001.

His motivation? Paying back some of the victims, reportedly around 60 who lost upwards of $80 million. Shapiro won't earn a dime from the book. His other motivation, he says, is payback for former players who ignored him.  

"Once the players become pros, they turned their back on me," Shapiro told the Herald. "It made me feel like a used friend."

As long as everyone was kissing Shapiro's ass, then, everything was OK. The point is, these cases don't develop sometimes until low-life reprobates blow the whistle. Lloyd Lake, who had served time for a probation violation, rolled over on Reggie Bush after Bush failed to repay $300,000 that Lake had spent on him. All Bush had to do was repay Lake, who essentially wanted to become Bush's agent, and everything was cool.

The same thing seems to be going on at North Carolina, Alabama and South Carolina. The rumor going around is that a reputable agent (or agents) alerted the NCAA and/or media about low-life agents and marketers who blatantly staged that ostentatious player party in South Beach. Had the rogue agents kept things on the down low, maybe those three 
schools aren't wondering who is going to be able to play on Saturday.

You might wonder why the NCAA listens to these guys. The association isn't held to a legal standard. It doesn't have to use due process. It cannot issue subpoenas compelling witnesses to testify. You have to wonder, though, what credibility a source like Shapiro has. Consider this recent headline: "Felon Who Stole $900 Million To Rat Out "The U".

Because of those investigative restrictions, the NCAA also has to meet a lower standard (its own) for a conviction. Remember, this is technically a non-profit organization that has been given these powers by its members. Police use "rats" like Shapiro all the time. Prisoners testify in open court. But it's up to a jury to decide on the evidence. The NCAA infractions committee is judge and jury. USC thought it was going to skate on the Bush case because it was unaware 
of the wrongdoing.

The NCAA decided that USC was guilty because it was unaware of the wrongdoing.

But it remains amazing how none of it would have happened if someone had gotten paid off or, in Shapiro's case, someone's feelings weren't hurt.

Comments

Since: Jun 28, 2010
Posted on: August 31, 2010 2:12 pm
 

Miami about to be taken down by a rat. Fair?

Yes its Fair , Two wrongs  ring a bell. If a murderer rats another Murderer is that just a rat? If the U is/was a dirty Program CLEAN IT. If they won dirty YANK it. Same with all institutions. UNC,Alabama S.Carolina the whole damn SEC I don't care  wrong is wrong. USC won Dirty I , personally , am glad the program was spanked. Everyone knew it was to good to be true. the U had that Kind-a run accept. Quit acting all Morally abhorrent about rats.Rats eat Own..Let Them FEAST!!!!!!!!!



Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: August 31, 2010 2:08 pm
 

Miami about to be taken down by a rat. Fair?

Funny that you used "parody" instead of "parity."  You mean the latter, but the former implies satire or a spoof, which there IS alot of in college football.  Just ask Terry Porter.



Since: Mar 18, 2008
Posted on: August 31, 2010 1:51 pm
 

Miami about to be taken down by a rat. Fair?

Sorry about the blank post.  Hey OSU, I think you meant parity - look up parody in the dictionary, there may be a picture of you.  Like the previous poster said, what about Clarett?




Since: Jul 23, 2010
Posted on: August 31, 2010 1:47 pm
 

Miami about to be taken down by a rat. Fair?

How quickly we forget ,Maurice Clarret ring any bells.I know I know he paid for the luxery car and the 30,000 $ worth of stereo equipment.



Since: Mar 18, 2008
Posted on: August 31, 2010 1:43 pm
 

Miami about to be taken down by a rat. Fair?




Since: Sep 2, 2006
Posted on: August 31, 2010 1:26 pm
 

Miami about to be taken down by a rat. Fair?

Hey, Dodd.  Weren't you the stooge that was boasting for USC to have their title taken away over something that was really not proven?  Even if that person did who happened to be the Heisman winner, did the rest of them cheat?  NO.  Yet, you feel it's not fair that an ex-booster should keep their mouth shut over what Miami did?  For your information, Mr. Dodd.  If any school should have their titles taken away, it's your friends, Miami Hurricanes.  So don't you go around saying what's fair and not fair. 



Since: Jan 29, 2007
Posted on: August 31, 2010 1:08 pm
 

Miami about to be taken down by a rat. Fair?

How is that different from an organized crime outfit getting taken down by a former member in exchange for getting a plea? Is that unfair? Of course not. So why would this be any different?



Since: Nov 19, 2008
Posted on: August 31, 2010 1:07 pm
 

Miami about to be taken down by a rat. Fair?

Taking Miami out of the equation because they have always been dirty, and I realize they were a part of the Big East when this was happening, but does anyone else see a theme here with the conferences that the teams that are getting in trouble belong to?? SEC, ACC, and Pac-10. Hmmm...... seems to me that everyone out there picks on the Big Ten, Big East, etc... as weak conferences, and that very well may be, but could it also be that the SEC is the "strongest" because they get the great players because they pay for them? Funny, how you never hear about any allegations with a West Virginia, UConn, Rutgers, Ohio St, Iowa, etc... And dont tell me they all do it because if they did, there would be A LOT more parody in college football because these players would spread out a lot more than they do.



Since: Aug 7, 2009
Posted on: August 31, 2010 12:54 pm
 

Miami about to be taken down by a rat. Fair?

Obviously you have to look into it and make sure what this guy's saying is true, but if the players are guilty, what difference does it make how we found out about it?

The rule isn't "Players can't accept payment, unless the guy paying them is the one who tells on them. Then it's OK"



Since: Jul 31, 2008
Posted on: August 31, 2010 12:46 pm
 

Miami about to be taken down by a rat. Fair?

Dodd, is there a point somewhere in all that gibberish?


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