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Report: Big East interest in TCU

Posted on: September 28, 2010 5:10 pm
Edited on: September 28, 2010 10:07 pm

Citing anonymous sources, the New York Post is reporting that the Big East is interested in adding TCU.

Forget the geographic ramifications. TCU plays in the Mountain West Conference, but is nowhere near mountains in the west. The Big East is probably willing to do anything, including adding a school from Texas, to keep itself relevant. The names of Temple and Villanova have already been tossed around as future additions, at least in football.

That said, I guess this makes some sort of sense if the Big East believes it can add a market in Dallas-Fort Worth. TCU basketball is, at best, struggling. Both entities, TCU and the Big East, would be desperate to have access to an automatic BCS bowl berth in the future. That would be a heck of commute, though, for the Rutgers volleyball team.

TCU coach Gary Patterson said via text he was "surprised" at the report. A message left for TCU AD Chris Del Conte was not immediately returned.


Since: Oct 22, 2006
Posted on: September 29, 2010 5:45 am

Report: Big East interest in TCU

Maybe the Big East should also add Appalachian State and James Madison University, since both teams beat the Big 10's and ACC's best?  Villanova is a champion, which is more than can be said about most programs. 

The BE is not done for yet, but one team has to finish in the top tier of college football to be viable for BCS - it would get interesting if the BE members pull out, that would give BCS less than 50% of the FBS members, and those members are free to set up their own system.  MWC and WAC revenge? 

Think AFL-NFL.  That would make it interesting - two divisions, two championships reduced to one Overall Bowl Champion of all FBS, not just BCS AQ conferences.

Since: Jan 2, 2007
Posted on: September 29, 2010 3:19 am

Report: Big East interest in TCU

Last time I checked, Villanova did play in the Big East for NCAA basketball.Temple basketball has historically been decent and Temple football is on the rise as witnessed with the close game against Penn St. last weekend. Usually PSU-Temple games are blowouts but they would be a better fit than TCU or Villanova. The Temple Owls were a football member of the Big East until 2004, if I am not mistaken.

Since: Aug 20, 2006
Posted on: September 29, 2010 1:56 am

Report: Big East interest in TCU

"...believes it can add a market in Dallas-Fort Worth. "

No, TCU isn't really a market in Dallas-Fort Worth.  Only two teams have a meaningful share of the DFW market - Texas & Oklahoma.

Since: May 13, 2008
Posted on: September 29, 2010 12:58 am

Report: Big East interest in TCU

Might as well, the Big East sucks for football, TCU would fit right in.

Since: Nov 23, 2008
Posted on: September 29, 2010 12:42 am

Report: Big East interest in TCU

This is interesting but is going to be a mistake by both sides if it really happens.  In my mind the DMA thing doesn't really matter because you usually get regional coverage unless playing in a prime time slot.  Then if you are TCU, would you tune in to watch TCU play UConn or Rutgers at home?  Do you guys watch TCU vs Wyoming or New Mexico?  No, right?  You'd rather watch TCU vs Texas.  But Big 12 (-2) is not taking you, so what is your next best draw?  I think the answer is SMU and Houtson.  But Conf USA already has 12 teams and they don't want to unbalance the schedule.  But wait, MAC has 13 teams with Temple as associate member.  Convince Temple to join Conf USA east and you have your natural home.  What about BCS you ask?  Well, it's not automatic but TCU and Boise St made it a couple of times already.  Yes, AQ would be nice but the door is open.  If Boise can do it in WAC, why not do it in Conf USA?
Big East? Forget it.  They already lost it when they didn't add Penn St.  They dug their grave when Miami, VT, BC defected.  They should just nurture Villanova and maybe add UMass (did you see that game vs Michigan?) and go from there.  And please go after VT and BC.  ACC doesn't want them (well, I don't want them Tongue out).

Since: Jun 10, 2010
Posted on: September 28, 2010 11:45 pm

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This is a terrible idea. Everyone in the decision making process always just focuses on money, and maybe strengthening their conference, but mainly money.  Does anyone stop to think about the student/athletes when hatching these plans? It would be too expensive for the school, and a lot of distraction from the classroom (if these players actually attend class and do their own work) to join the Big East for a shot at a BCS bid. 

I know a lot of people have said that it's a terrible idea for TCU to join the Big 12 because of the already tapped TV market, but geographically it makes sense. Also adding TCU to the Big 12 will create more national attention and TV exposure as long as the teams stay competitive and high in the rankings.  This type of exposure will also bring in more money (since that is what everyone wants to focus on) because more games played on national tv means more cash flowing inward.  Finish it off by bringing in Boise St. or Air Force, move Ok. St. to the north division and be back at 12.

That's just my opinion and I'm sure it isn't worth much, but there it is.

Since: Jul 6, 2008
Posted on: September 28, 2010 11:43 pm

Report: Big East interest in TCU

The Big East & TCU, what a conversation maker and that's about as far as it goes.  The Mountain West has Boise State joining next year, then there's Nevada & Fresno State.  All of these schools are in the rankings.  In 2011, Air Force & Boise State will be national powerhouses, challenging the best teams in the country.  In 2011 the Mountain West talent will actually surpass the Big 12 and that's without BYU & Utah.  Air Force, Boise State, and TCU will have very strong teams.  Nevada's teams are only going to get better through their recruiting and Fresno State, you know the deal, they'll play anybody anwhere anytime.  If TCU gave this even a second thought they wouldn't be realizing the bigger picture and that's schools merging into super conferences over the next several years.  This is just the beginning of an evolutionary process that will eventually create a national playoff system to determine the true national champion and TCU's future isn't in the east, it's in the west.  

Since: Jan 9, 2007
Posted on: September 28, 2010 11:05 pm

Report: Big East interest in TCU

TCU would not leave the MWC for a weaker Big East. If anything Houston will join the MWC and make it a 12 school league that would then have a conference championship game and get an automatic BCS birth. At this rate the MWC is the 5th best conference behind the SEC, Big 10, Big 12, and Pac 10. By adding BSU, UNR, and Fresno only makes the MWC that much better and closes the gap between them and the Pac 10.

Since: Dec 18, 2007
Posted on: September 28, 2010 10:45 pm

Report: Big East interest in TCU

Dang it Big East! Hands off! I'm sick of my Boise State Broncos getting screwed over with all these conference moves. If TCU goes, than we would be in no better position than we were in the WAC. Why does nobody want us? I just don't get it.

Since: Aug 5, 2010
Posted on: September 28, 2010 10:25 pm

Report: Big East interest in TCU

Most of the non revenue producing sports do actually take long bus trips. Rutgers to Cincinnati is a 12 hour trip.  I wouldn't be suprised if they did it by bus.

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