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Mailbag, 10/15

Posted on: October 15, 2010 4:04 pm
 

A wise man once wrote ... "They are numerous and belligerent. They are fervent and many. They are passionate and unmoving. They are misguided they are scarlet and gray."

That wise man is me.

There seems to be this movement afoot to rationalize Ohio State's No. 1 ranking with a result from last season. Yeah, I know, seems weird to me too. While I understand that the polls are half reputation, you don't earn the No. 1 ranking in October based on a game that was played in January. But that certainly seems to be the feeling in Columbus where the Buckeyes not ARE No. 1 in both polls but, damn it, deserve it over every other team in the country.

You know why? It beat Oregon in the Rose Bowl. Oregon, without the quarterback who played in that game. Oregon, which is stronger now than it was in Pasadena. Oregon, which is a season older and wiser.  Last season's Oregon.

Guys and gals, is that the best you can come with in making your argument? Ohio State is better than No. 2 Oregon because of a game played 10 months ago, but you can't tell me why Ohio State is better than the 12 other undefeated teams in I-A? Way to settle an argument.

You people destroy your own argument. Boise beat Oregon last season too. Shouldn't it be, at least, a co-No. 1 with the beloved Buckeyes?

Cue the myopic, Buck-hater e-mails. I know they're coming. My point if you can calm down for a second, Brutus: There is nothing you can tell me that Ohio State has done this season to convince me it is the clear-cut No. 1. That's why I ranted Sunday.

I'm not hating on the Bucks. I happen to like The Senator in a nebbish, Firestone-regional-manager kind of way. It's hard to anger him, which is probably why his teams play so well. They're consistent and, mostly, unflappable. But let's all take a deep breath here in the middle of October. Ohio State may be No. 1 in the three polls that matter right now. That doesn't mean it should be. I believe in poll diversity. I've seen Boise State just as much as Ohio State. I marvel at what Oregon has been able to accomplish without that quarterback who played in the Rose Bowl (Jeremiah Masoli). Who's faster than Nebraska's Taylor Martinez?

Look outside the boundaries of Ohio, Ohio. There is some great football being played out there. Maybe you'll find out Saturday night in Madison. Maybe you won't. Just don't come at me with 10-month old arguments. There's a fantastic season being played out there too.


From: Ed Champagne

Is Bama good or is Penn St. BAD?

Bubbly:

The answer lies in the middle. Until the Clubbing In Columbia, I thought Alabama was a world-beater. After getting through Arkansas and Florida, it looked like South Carolina would be the easiest task in the three-game slog. I was wrong. South Carolina was better than we thought and, suddenly, Bama has troubles running the ball. For now, the best team in the SEC is Auburn.

As much as that upsets Alabama, it's true. Teams change throughout the season. Penn State was way overrated. As Alabama and others have proved, Joe Paterno doesn't have a playmaker on either side of the ball. The Nits are 3-3 halfway through the season and have a ways to go to get to bowl eligibility (six wins) which would net Joe is 400th career win. Penn State isn't bad, it's just not good. To paraphrase a former Arizona Cardinals coach:  "Penn State is who we thought they were."



From: Tim


Dennis, I know you guys like to create controversy but when it starts to hurt your credibility I have to try to redirect your marketing efforts. Boise State would absolutely get hammered playing a Big Ten schedule. The best teams in the overrated WAC would only be mediocre in the Big Ten. Treasure your job - they are hard to come by these days. Good luck.

Large 11 Honk:

Sorry you made bail, but I'm going to burst your bubble. I've been saying publicly for a while that Boise State could win the Big Ten this year. SEC East too. Big 12? Tell me they couldn't line up with Nebraska. I don't know how much of Boise you've seen in person but give them the eye test. That would require you watching them play. Get back to me. I'll help get you a ticket.



From: Sarah


Dear Dodd, Did you not have Ohio State at No. 2 in your pre-season poll? All they've done is kick the crap out of people, with a dominating defense and a Heisman-contending quarterback. What else would you have expected them to do so far that warrants your whining? Boise's win over Virginia Tech is not the least bit impressive after VT goes down to James freaking Madison. Put Boise in a real conference and let them play a real schedule, then we'll talk. This whole fascination with Boise is a joke and a cop out by writers, like yourself, to continue hating on Ohio State.

Just Another Mypopian:

"Kick the crap out of people"? If you want to call Eastern Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Marshall and Indiana "people", that's a stretch. They are body bags. Air. They've renamed themselves "The Lettermen" because they mail it in. You conveniently forgot about that little struggle in Champaign. And I don't mean Ed Champagne.

 Nice win over Miami, by the way. The Canes are so far out of the polls, they have to look up to see the bottom of West Virginia's cleats.

The reality is that Boise has accomplished more ON THE FIELD than Ohio State has this season.


From: Keith

Dennis, You are smarter than me, so please find a way to talk about an elephant-in-the-room topic for all of the reasonable, rational college football fans. Don't know how many of those are left, but there are at least a few of us.

Here's my topic: Much of the controversy surrounding BCS vs. non-BCS teams is pedigree. But riddle me this: how many current Alabama players -- or insert your favorite traditional power players or coaches -- were there when Bear Bryant was there? How many current LSU players were on the squad in 2007 when the title was won? Point: players, especially starters, are different every year. Five years ago all of them were in high school, or even junior high! Coaches change all the time, etc. What Alabama did ten years ago means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING today, and what they did last year still matters very little.


Time Traveler:

You've been reading my mind, Mr. Spock. A lot of the polls are built on reputation. It's why Lindsay Lohan continues to get acting roles. She might have her snoot halfway up a brick of cocaine, but she sure does look good on screen.

Few want to give Boise cred because the program has been good for 10 years. Alabama has been good for 10 DECADES! That's the difference. Line 'em up on the field and let's see what happens. Better yet, line 'em up in NCAA 11. I still haven't bought my copy yet.

Coaches and players change all the time but voters don't, it seems.


From:
  Rick

Oregon reminds me of a Little League Pop Warner type team! They are a controlled group that have gone berserk! I believe their players truly believe that they can outscore anyone! Like great golfers, they play their game - and then some, not worrying about what their opponent does. It would be interesting to see them play Boise State, followed by Alabama! Opinion? They would outscore both.

Acid Washed:

Dude, you're so all over the board I'm afraid you've had too much organic coffee (or something) out there in Eugene.

You besmirch Pop Warner teams everywhere suggesting they don't play any defense. You ever see Snoop Dogg's team. They beat the heck out of you. There's a league in central New York that leads the country in torn ACLs caused. I'm insulted at your blanket reference to Pop Warner football. It's better than you think. Ask Eastern Michigan.

 

Comments

Since: Nov 30, 2008
Posted on: October 16, 2010 7:00 pm
 

Mailbag, 10/15

Hey dodd you gonna write a follow up  to your nebraska texas article now that texas handled nebraska? :))))



Since: Sep 21, 2008
Posted on: October 16, 2010 5:44 pm
 

Mailbag, 10/15

If not OSU, then who do you think should be #1? And does it matter? Oregon controls their own destiny. Win out and they're going to the national championship. So what's your problem? 



Since: Jul 30, 2009
Posted on: October 16, 2010 3:05 pm
 

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Put all 3 of em against OU

Utah state 2-3
Fla State   5-1 top 15
Airforce     5-1 top 25
Cincinatti  3-3 defending big east champ
Texass     3-2 top 25 when we played em

Combined 18-10

Keep ignoring OU we like it that way



Since: Jul 29, 2009
Posted on: October 16, 2010 1:12 pm
 

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Why is it OSU's job to make BSU think thy belong with the big boys. Listen to your selfs oh poor BSU no one will play them. Everyone knows it because they are afraid of BSU. When did it become the top teams job to help BSU. No one is helping OSU, FSU, or any other big boy out there. BSU here is how you do it you play any one any were for the money they will give you. For more info on this check with Fresno State they can tell you how to do this.



Since: Dec 5, 2009
Posted on: October 16, 2010 11:08 am
 

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Dodd, I think you answered you're own question. Only maybe a little indirectly. One of the reasons why Ohio State is #1 is for the same reason Alabama is usually favored over schools like Boise State and TCU. 10 years versus 10 decades. The Buckeyes program has a similarly good program comparable to Alabama. 
Also a flaw with using rankings, it's a matter of luck. Ohio State has been winning it's games, and were just in the right place at the right time when the Tide fell. Honestly I didn't think the EMU victory for the Buckeyes was all that impressive. I mean sure 73 points is, but allowing 20 points to me is not. I know it's still a rout, but still. & I don't care about the circumstances of how Tressel wants to treat his personnel, a shutout would have looked better for the Buckeyes' defense and the team. 
That argument about beating Oregon in the Rose Bowl is a sound one. I honestly predicted Oregon would have a let down after losing Masoli, but that prediction got the doors blown off it. They seem to have gotten better. 
I'm a little surprised people aren't giving Boise State credit. The last time I doubted Boise State was against TCU, and they came away with that one. I don't know if Boise State would run the table in the Big 10, SEC, or Big 12 like they do in the WAC. But I do know they would at the very least be a dark horse. Never a team you want to turn your back on. I honestly hope the Broncos get to play for the National Championship in the face of all the traditionalists and all the odds.



Since: Nov 16, 2008
Posted on: October 16, 2010 10:42 am
 

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""i guess Ohio State could replace miami, wisconsin, illinois, iowa, penn st and michigan with wyoming, new mexico st, toledo, san jose st, louisiana tech, hawaii, idaho, fresno st and utah st, but the Buckeyes have standards.  standards that boise and the mongrels that comprise their schedule fall far short of.  replace almost any of the tomato cans on boise's schedule with marshall, ohio and eastern mich, and boise's sos goes up.""

Gee, i thought with all the MAC teams on Ohio State's schedule the last few years thast the Buckeyes were preparing to escape the Competitive Big 10 and head for the watered-down competiton of the MAC as a full-time member

Seriously, instead of replacing WIsconsin, Illinois, iowa, penn state, and michigan, how about replacing Marshall, Ohio and Eastern Michigan withn some REAL competition, like maybe....oh, Alabama,or  Oklahoma, or Boise or TCU ...some REAL top teams....and we can find out how good Ohio State REALLY is



Since: Oct 16, 2010
Posted on: October 16, 2010 10:37 am
 

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I am an OSU fan, and honestly there are a handful of teams out there that merit talk about being number 1.
I guess I just don't like all the sudden OSU hate now that Bama lost.  If Oregon, Boise, Nebraska, Auburn, etc were supposedly so much better than OSU, where was all the hate when they were ranked 2?



Since: Nov 16, 2008
Posted on: October 16, 2010 10:33 am
 

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""I love how everyone says OSU can't count the Oregon Rose Bowl domination bec ause "it's in the past", but turn right around and say OSU doesn't deserve to have a chance at the National Championship game because "they lost twice."

Perhaps a definition of "in the past" is in order.""

Ohio State may not desertve the Number 1 rank right now BASED UPON WHO THEY HAVE PLAYED THIS SEASON.....but that doesnt mean if they keep on winning they wont earn it...

No, January's win against Oregon in the Rose Bowl shouldnt cfount for anything this year because it was two differnet teams playing that game....

BUIT, i also dont think the two BCS championship losses by Ohio State should affect tehm either...agian, seperate teams from this years edition.

This year's Buckeyes should rise or fall on their own merits, not based on what past OSU teams did or didnt do...



Since: Nov 16, 2008
Posted on: October 16, 2010 10:28 am
 

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"How about this - let's get the expansion talk going again.  Let's get four 16-team conferences and that can be a starting point to a 4 team playoff.  We can effectively get rid of all the conference USA, Big East, and all the other garbage out there.  Boise st, TCU...they can go to division II (or whatever they call it) with all the other small, irrelevant teams.  Let's just get the top 64 together in one "division" and hopefully a playoff can finally be born.  Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, Boise.  Go play Wyoming and San Diego St for the division II (fbs?  I think it might be fbs) title."


Man,, listen to the arrogance here....in case it has escaped your attention, Boise IS a legit natioonal program...

If you big conference wussies would schedule them then we can see how many lumps they would take on a BCS league schedule...and you know what? They are willing to take that on, but you cowards would rather play Div IAA and Div II tomato cans than risk losing to a legit team...

and if you say Boise isnt legit, there is one way to find out...as Cowboy Bill Watts would say "Lets hook 'em up!" and may the better team win...

otherwise, any excuse you give comes out as cowardice bolstered by arrogance..

or maybe Wetzelo was tright....maybe it IS Collusion on the part of teh big name schools to keep down schools like Boise and TCU...in which case, someone get the legal eagles and Congress....



Since: Oct 16, 2010
Posted on: October 16, 2010 10:21 am
 

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I love how everyone says OSU can't count the Oregon Rose Bowl domination bec ause "it's in the past", but turn right around and say OSU doesn't deserve to have a chance at the National Championship game because "they lost twice."

Perhaps a definition of "in the past" is in order.


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