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Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

Posted on: November 12, 2010 1:33 pm
There are now at least three people on the record saying they have knowledge of Cecil Newton soliciting money for his son Cameron to attend Mississippi State.

There is a lot of stuff out there right now about Newton being ineligible at the moment at Auburn. Not entirely true, according to information received Friday from the NCAA.

My question to the NCAA: If a person related to a prospective student-athlete solicits money for that student-athlete at a certain school then that student-athlete is ineligible. Is that true no matter where he signs?

This e-mail came back from NCAA spokesperson Stacey Osburn: Generally speaking, eligibility issues are tied to the student-athlete, not the school. So if a student-athlete is ineligible at one school and then transfers to a second school, the school the student-athlete transferred to would need to seek reinstatement.

I then reiterated my question saying a "prospective" student-athlete -- in other words a recruit -- not a "transfer".

Osburn came back with: Correct.

USA Today
got much the same response when it asked a similar question of Osburn.

In Friday's editions the paper stated, "Even if Newton received no money to attend Auburn, soliciting money can be an NCAA violation jeopardizing Newton's eligibility."

To me, all this means that Cam Newton isn't a slam dunk to be found ineligible at Auburn as some seem to think at this point. It doesn't look good, I'll give you that, but consider the Albert Means case. The former five-star Memphis prospect was being shopped around by his high school coach Lynn Lang. Means committed to Alabama, but ended up playing at Memphis. I suspect the fact that it was his coach and not a family member, that was a mitigating circumstance.

In this case ...  

1) First, it has to be proven that Newton's father was asking for money at Mississippi State. We're not there yet but as mentioned, at least three folks say he did.

2) Second, it has be determined whether Cecil Newton asked anyone at Auburn for money. If he did, whether Cameron knew or not, that pretty much seals the deal.

3) If Cecil Newton didn't ask Auburn, then we're back to Osburn's "generally speaking" response that the eligibility issues would be tied to the student-athlete. In other words, Newton could be ineligible at Auburn but it is not certain.

Here is the NCAA bylaw (10.1 unethical conduct) that seems to govern this situation ...

Unethical conduct by a prospective or enrolled student-athlete or a current or former institutional staff member
(e.g., coach, professor, tutor, teaching assistant, student manager, student trainer) may include, but is not limited
to, the following: 
(a) Refusal to furnish information relevant to an investigation of a possible violation of an NCAA regulation
when requested to do so by the NCAA or the individual’s institution;
(b) Knowing involvement in arranging for fraudulent academic credit or false transcripts for a prospective or an
enrolled student-athlete;
(c) Knowing involvement in offering or providing a prospective or an enrolled student-athlete an improper inducement
or extra benefit or improper financial aid; (Revised: 1/9/96)
(d) Knowingly furnishing or knowingly influencing others to furnish the NCAA or the individual’s institution false or misleading information ...
Violations of 10.1 are enforced as follows:
10.4 Disciplinary Action
Prospective or enrolled student-athletes found in violation of the provisions of this regulation shall be ineligible
for further intercollegiate competition, subject to appeal to the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement for
restoration of eligibility.

Obviously, Auburn is comfortable enough to put the quarterback on the field. Auburn coach Gene Chizik said this week that Newton will start against Georgia.

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Since: Sep 3, 2006
Posted on: November 13, 2010 9:41 am

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

What is wrong with some of you folks?  NO!  It has NOT been proven that Mr. Newton asked for money just because someone or even a few people say he did.  Hearsay is not evidence and this applies to any accusation out there against anyone. 

There are way too many red flags in this story by Kenny Rogers and it all falls in line with his very own words from his radio interview 2 days ago where he stated, "I cant really remember so I am not going to just sit here and say I remember what was said!"  This was in reference to his assuming, because he wasnt too sure there either, that Mr. Newton referenced money.  But there very next words out of Rogers mouth contradict his not remembering by clearly stating, "Anywhere between a 100 and 180 thousand.  Basically to get his son."  In fact, Rogers claimed 5 times in his very short interview that he either didnt remember what was said or referenced he wasnt sure what Mr. Newton meant.

Another red flag is related to the alleged phone calls that he is claiming Mr. Newton and Cam both acknowledged they wanted money.  The NCAA has come out and stated that they were never notified of these phone calls when he reported all this back in January.  So I ask why?  Why would he not include this in his report in January but only come out with it now?   Add to this that there is absolutely nothing in place to confirm these conversations occured on these calls and you are left with a huge red flag leaving Rogers looking like he is just trying to add fuel to the fire he created through the media. 

Why would Auburn not play Cam?  There is nothing to support these claims.  Why are so many of you ready tp punish someone because someone else claims his father asked for money 10 months ago without proof?  I pray none of you ever sit on a jury because you have no concept of innocent until PROVEN guilty.  What happens when your ex tries to get custody of your child by reporting you as a child molestor without anything to support her claim?  Because it happens all the time in custody situations.  Should we award her custody, give her what she wants and put you in Jail because she said it happened?  Seriously folks, wake up.  Let this play out.  If he did do something wrong, then lets see the proof and get him out of there.  I am not saying for sure he didnt do anything, I am just saying lets see the evidence first.

Since: Dec 31, 2006
Posted on: November 13, 2010 9:27 am

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

Meanwhile, in Kentucky, Coach Calapari is going, "I don't understand. We can't pay the guys anymore?".

Since: Sep 27, 2006
Posted on: November 13, 2010 6:37 am

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

I can agree with you on one point! You're right--it is Piss Poor (your story!!!!) These other schools had nothing to do with it!!!

Since: Jan 3, 2010
Posted on: November 13, 2010 6:21 am

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

Come on, he is guilty.  The guy stole stuff while at Fla, which is nothing new for a gator football player, especially under Urban Myer, he cheated on tests, he has no character!  Guilty, auburn took paid him, end of story.

Since: Sep 13, 2006
Posted on: November 13, 2010 3:29 am

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

The NCAA is very clear about family members receiving gifts or benefits when it comes to student athletes. This is EXACTLY the same thing they busted USC for in the Bush situation.

Since: Sep 17, 2006
Posted on: November 13, 2010 3:18 am

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

NO Offense but you are truly cliueless.  No one was expelled from anywhere.  I suggest you read the facts or the spin the press is giving us.  Cam Newton didnt steal anything, he purchased a stolen laptop.  If he did cheat as you state he did not go before any kind of disciplinary committee.  Federal Laws have been broken and got the FBI involved, someone at Florida is in some deep trouble.  MSU is in trouble for not giving full disclosure to the SEC office, and no one has accused Auburn of anything,  There is no guilt for Auburn at all. there is no guilt for Oklahoma and there is no guilt for Tennessee.  Mississippi State has opened a can of worms and they are toast.

Since: Sep 16, 2010
Posted on: November 13, 2010 1:29 am
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Since: May 10, 2007
Posted on: November 13, 2010 12:07 am

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

This is not "rumor and gossip" ebonyrod2. We now have three witnessess, talking about first hand information, with matching accounts and no compelling reason to lie. People get executed with less evidence.

Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: November 12, 2010 11:31 pm

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

Let the NCAA do what they do best, take rumor, gossip and convicted criminals word to place programs on probation. Uhm sounds as if the same NCAA officials might have another case similar to the USC case where liars testified, criminals testified. No one with direct knowledge of any one attached or connected to the USC sporting family had contact with this agent that was apparently paying the father and mother.

Let me get this right,, Cameron Newton’s father might have shopped him around to various sec football programs. Then perhaps Cameron did not know that his father was doing this.

Three guys from Mississippi State have the same story. There might be something there as it is difficult to get two people to have the same story and stick to it, yet here are three that indicated the father had contact with at least one of them. The father deny having any contact with either of them. Now one has stepped up and say he has telephone records indicating the father had made contact with him.

Ok let’s say the father did make contact, what was the conversation about and the content of the conversation? During this conversation was money discussed? Well it really matter not this is enough for the NCAA.

Since he did not go to Mississippi State and we can all surmise the money was not sufficient or no money was forthcoming., how did Cameron get to Auburn?

Was the money right at Auburn and who on the coaching staff is the go between for the coaching staff and father. Someone at Auburn would know the answer to this question, because if he is at Auburn money had to have exchanged hands.

Auburn has taken a no comment attitude from, according to the NCAA, Cameron is eligible.

Would you not want your team to be eligible to continue on the quest to the so called National Championship game? I suppose Auburn has taken the “We don’t give a damn attitude” We are gonna ride this ineligible horse to the National Championship game and let the chips fall where they may.    If he is found to be ineligible then they will have to forfeit all games in which he played to include the National Championship game if they are eligible to play in this game.

They would also forfeit future bowl games, less football recruits and most of all probation for those that had nothing to do with the situation as it is today.

Do Auburn know Cameron is not eligible to play, but are too far into the season to sit him until his eligibility is proven one way or the other.

The NCAA in all it’s power will not have a solution until 3-4 years from now. If they can not prove anything that was done wrong they will come up with the Institutional control by Auburn. Nothing need to be proven with this weapon on the NCAA side.

All conferences have schools that are not complying with the rules of the conference nor the NCAA (what ever the NCAA rules are) They just have not been caught as of yet. No one can stand a close scrutiny of their program and compliance of the rules. No one

There is some alum, booster, teammate, parent, girlfriend or unknowingly friend that have broke the NCAA rules by giving the player a ride, a soft drink or $5.00 to get a hamburger at Burger King.

If a parent is out shopping with their kid and a player on the football team and they buy a school souvenir for their child and the football player they have broke an NCAA rule.

I can not understand why Auburn allow him to continue to play in the games.   

Since: Aug 2, 2007
Posted on: November 12, 2010 11:26 pm

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

Cecil Newton is guilty, sold his son out and now costing him his reputation. Cam is not blind to this, do you think he didn't notice the church was getting all the repairs done?

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