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Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

Posted on: November 12, 2010 1:33 pm
There are now at least three people on the record saying they have knowledge of Cecil Newton soliciting money for his son Cameron to attend Mississippi State.

There is a lot of stuff out there right now about Newton being ineligible at the moment at Auburn. Not entirely true, according to information received Friday from the NCAA.

My question to the NCAA: If a person related to a prospective student-athlete solicits money for that student-athlete at a certain school then that student-athlete is ineligible. Is that true no matter where he signs?

This e-mail came back from NCAA spokesperson Stacey Osburn: Generally speaking, eligibility issues are tied to the student-athlete, not the school. So if a student-athlete is ineligible at one school and then transfers to a second school, the school the student-athlete transferred to would need to seek reinstatement.

I then reiterated my question saying a "prospective" student-athlete -- in other words a recruit -- not a "transfer".

Osburn came back with: Correct.

USA Today
got much the same response when it asked a similar question of Osburn.

In Friday's editions the paper stated, "Even if Newton received no money to attend Auburn, soliciting money can be an NCAA violation jeopardizing Newton's eligibility."

To me, all this means that Cam Newton isn't a slam dunk to be found ineligible at Auburn as some seem to think at this point. It doesn't look good, I'll give you that, but consider the Albert Means case. The former five-star Memphis prospect was being shopped around by his high school coach Lynn Lang. Means committed to Alabama, but ended up playing at Memphis. I suspect the fact that it was his coach and not a family member, that was a mitigating circumstance.

In this case ...  

1) First, it has to be proven that Newton's father was asking for money at Mississippi State. We're not there yet but as mentioned, at least three folks say he did.

2) Second, it has be determined whether Cecil Newton asked anyone at Auburn for money. If he did, whether Cameron knew or not, that pretty much seals the deal.

3) If Cecil Newton didn't ask Auburn, then we're back to Osburn's "generally speaking" response that the eligibility issues would be tied to the student-athlete. In other words, Newton could be ineligible at Auburn but it is not certain.

Here is the NCAA bylaw (10.1 unethical conduct) that seems to govern this situation ...

Unethical conduct by a prospective or enrolled student-athlete or a current or former institutional staff member
(e.g., coach, professor, tutor, teaching assistant, student manager, student trainer) may include, but is not limited
to, the following: 
(a) Refusal to furnish information relevant to an investigation of a possible violation of an NCAA regulation
when requested to do so by the NCAA or the individual’s institution;
(b) Knowing involvement in arranging for fraudulent academic credit or false transcripts for a prospective or an
enrolled student-athlete;
(c) Knowing involvement in offering or providing a prospective or an enrolled student-athlete an improper inducement
or extra benefit or improper financial aid; (Revised: 1/9/96)
(d) Knowingly furnishing or knowingly influencing others to furnish the NCAA or the individual’s institution false or misleading information ...
Violations of 10.1 are enforced as follows:
10.4 Disciplinary Action
Prospective or enrolled student-athletes found in violation of the provisions of this regulation shall be ineligible
for further intercollegiate competition, subject to appeal to the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement for
restoration of eligibility.

Obviously, Auburn is comfortable enough to put the quarterback on the field. Auburn coach Gene Chizik said this week that Newton will start against Georgia.

Category: NCAAF

Since: Nov 25, 2007
Posted on: November 12, 2010 6:50 pm

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

The NCAA is just a mess right now.  You spoke (in an earlier story) about the BCS fiasco, and how "corporate" money does govern the choices, to some extent --and you ARE right; but that is just wrong!  Now, it appears that they will not even step-up and enforce their own rules?  The colleges and universities just need to step-in here and dump the present NCAA set-up, and start over.  Yes, fire the NCAA, why not?  As it stands there is some serious issues that may take-on a real ugly appearance in the next few years.  If the Justice Department does choose to hear the BCS complaint, brought on from the DA in Utah (which I believe that it should) then you will see a big change in football, and other areas.  The fact is, there is bias, all over the place, and we need to eliminate it. 

Since: Oct 25, 2010
Posted on: November 12, 2010 6:50 pm

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

Now that you have me going, what is the point of trying to discredit Cam Newton for past accusations (which have been refuted by the officials at the institutions). The only thing that could possible affect Cam's eligibility according to NCAA Regulations is the ALLEDGED violations of the MSU boosters. Why even talk about the computer debacle or the alledged classroom accusations. That has ZERO to do with Cam's eligibility and a student or as an athlete. Stick to what you can research on your own if you, in fact, are a sports reporter. show you can research and write. And please, when you use another writer's work, give them credit by using appropriate references to their work. Did you get your correspondent credential at Sears and Roebuck? I hope you can do better for yourself in the future.

Since: Oct 25, 2010
Posted on: November 12, 2010 6:46 pm

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

Question has been asked who will be most affected by the press on Cam Newton: I did some research on NCAA Rules and Regulations found this - I report you decide:

Institutional control of athletics is a fundamental
requirement of NCAA Legislation. Specifically,
the NCAA constitution states that the University
must (comply):

NCAA rules refer to boosters as “representatives
of the institution’s athletic interests.” These representatives
include anyone who has (I included only one definition):

*Participated as a varsity athlete at the
University (Rogers, Bond, Bell ???)

Only institutional staff members are permitted to
recruit prospective student-athletes. The NCAA
prohibits all boosters from:

• Contacting prospects or the prospect’s rela
tives or guardian; and
• Calling, writing or contacting a prospect on or
off-campus for recruiting purposes.
* Become directly or indirectly involved in mak
ing arrangements for a prospect or the
prospect’s relatives or guardian to receive
money or financial aid of any kind;

* A prospective student-athlete remains a prospect
until he/she has attended the first day of classes
If a violation
occurs, it may:
• Jeopardize a student-athlete’s eligibility for
intercollegiate competition;
• Jeopardize (institution’s) membership status with
the NCAA;

Did MSU's boosters put the knife to MSU? This directly involves MSU as an institution and not Auburn.

If real documentation is found, Cam may be ruled inelibible, but it is MSU in trouble not Auburn.
You can forget that "recruit" BS. Cam Newton was defined as a prospect at the time MSU was involved in this caper.

Since: Nov 12, 2010
Posted on: November 12, 2010 6:27 pm

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

I was actually not talking to CoachOfD.... Notice these? (") They're called quotations marks... meaning I was quoting someone. If you didn't say those then things then it obviously wasn't directed at you..... But I'M the moron, hmmm?

Since: Nov 12, 2010
Posted on: November 12, 2010 6:08 pm

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

You didn't recieve benefits because you didn't produce millions in revenue like a star athlete does....I hope you were not a business major.

Since: Jan 6, 2010
Posted on: November 12, 2010 5:55 pm

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

I'm no lawyer but I have a question.  Wouldn't it be difficult for anyone to prove that the father had "verbal" conversations about requesting money for his son to play for a school?

Since: Jan 16, 2007
Posted on: November 12, 2010 5:49 pm

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

Choking out his girlfriend?  Get the facts straight.  There was an incident but he did not choke out his girlfriend.  It's not MMA.

Since: Jul 22, 2010
Posted on: November 12, 2010 5:42 pm

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

Gat,  I'll only comment on the part that Cecil Newton is a big part of the problem.  I beleive we should leave church, which institutes forgivness, out of this.  Despite all of Cam's problems, alleged and possibly otherwise, it seems that he wanted to do right about football, as evidenced by his calls to Miss State, in essence apologizing.  His dad, instead of looking after his son, may have taken advantage of his son's immense talent and tried to cash in early.  I hope at the end of the day that I'm wrong.  

Since: Dec 17, 2006
Posted on: November 12, 2010 5:37 pm

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

WOW wardamn..... i think u should layoff the cola buddy. No need to call me names lol. Never said i liked him either. Actually said I hate seeing him undefeated if u can remember. I dont think he would screw up badly again after he did so bad for the Gators. On top of that you are acting like an Oregon fan that thinks he's gonna hurt your chances to be named homecoming queen at the national championship game. Yes you cant win if he plays but Oregon doesnt deserve to play in the show... Boise State does. But those conversations are not related to this article. Like I said the FBI is getting involved and if there was wrong doing they will find it. All I am saying is innocent till "PROVEN" guilty... moron!

Since: Jul 22, 2010
Posted on: November 12, 2010 5:28 pm

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

Ednaub, I don't see how Miss State is in trouble when they are the team that DID NOT PAY Cam and by all accounts, except your, properly notified SEC officials.  It seems like your argument is to throw enough %&$#& at the wall and hope to deflect the "potential" problems facing Cam and Auburn.   

To Auburn fans, as I stated earlier, all of my Bama friends want Cam to play so they won't have to listen to excuses if they win.  So, please give it a rest.

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