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Cam ruled eligible

Posted on: December 1, 2010 1:11 pm
Edited on: December 1, 2010 4:20 pm
 

Auburn quarterback Cam Newton was reinstated by the NCAA Wednesday and is eligible to compete a day after being ruled ineligible for a violation of NCAA amateurism rules.

The NCAA in a statement concluded that Newton's father indeed did solicit money from Mississippi State in exchange for the quarterback going to the school. The NCAA said that Cecil Newton and a person believed to be former Mississippi State player Kenny Rogers did "actively market" Newton in a pay-for-play scenario.

However, the NCAA concluded that neither "Newton or anyone from Auburn was aware of this activity, which led to this reinstatement."

On that basis, Newton was allowed to regain his eligibility. Typically, in these cases a school must rule an athlete ineligible until the NCAA can determine the facts in the case. This does not seem to establish precedent. NCAA rules generally state that if a parent solicits money from a school for a child's commitment, that athlete is ineligible wherever he attends.

In this case, the NCAA stated it reviews "each case on its own merits based on specific facts."

Cecil Newton now has limited access to Auburn athletics. Mississippi State has disassociated Rogers.

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Since: Nov 9, 2010
Posted on: December 1, 2010 5:40 pm
 

Cam ruled eligible

Unforgiven:
Do yourself a favor, go grab a fifth of whiskey and cry yourself to sleep tonight.  You should at least correctly quote the "alleged" quote that no one will speak to now.  Otherwise, whine away and we'll watch Auburn move on. 




Since: Dec 29, 2006
Posted on: December 1, 2010 5:32 pm
 

Cam ruled eligible

regardless of waht the rule says or doesn't say and it's interruptation how can anyone believe that a) his father did this without his knowledge ..according to all accounts they are very close and cam is quoted on going to AUBURN cause the money was better...b)his father only asked that 1 school for money ? really ?..c)what the father did is considered extortion ..so you can extort a major university but you cannot take golf cart rides?..lol..d)you have to be either completely ignorant or a fan of AUBURN to think this is fair...im neither...e)the NCAA is a joke and has lost all integrity over this..AUBURN should have to vacate all the games he played once his father extorted money from NSU he was ineligible..but of course this is never gonna happen til maybe 2015 ..lol..what a joke  



Since: Nov 9, 2010
Posted on: December 1, 2010 5:25 pm
 

Cam ruled eligible

ICE:

So Cam keeps "effin" up huh?  What exactly would you site that he's "effed" up in the last two years?



Since: Nov 9, 2010
Posted on: December 1, 2010 5:23 pm
 

Cam ruled eligible

Read carefully:
Quote from the NCAA.   NCAA spokesperson Stacey Osburn told The Birmingham News by email that "the solicitation of cash or benefits by a prospective student-athlete or another individual on his or her behalf is not allowed under NCAA rules." 



Since: Dec 15, 2009
Posted on: December 1, 2010 5:22 pm
 

Cam ruled eligible

UK says:

....the rules prohibit solicitation of money for an athlete's services, whether the athlete knows about it or not.

And others jump on the band wagon and accept it as fact.  Are all you guys lawyers?  Where are you getting your information?

According to what I've read and heard, it's not so clear cut.

From Dodd on November 12:

 

There is a lot of stuff out there right now about Newton being ineligible at the moment at Auburn. Not entirely true, according to information received Friday from the NCAA.

My question to the NCAA: If a person related to a prospective student-athlete solicits money for that student-athlete at a certain school then that student-athlete is ineligible. Is that true no matter where he signs?

This e-mail came back from NCAA spokesperson Stacey Osburn: Generally speaking, eligibility issues are tied to the student-athlete, not the school. So if a student-athlete is ineligible at one school and then transfers to a second school, the school the student-athlete transferred to would need to seek reinstatement.

I then reiterated my question saying a "prospective" student-athlete -- in other words a recruit -- not a "transfer".

Osburn came back with: Correct.

USA Today
got much the same response when it asked a similar question of Osburn.

In Friday's editions the paper stated, "Even if Newton received no money to attend Auburn, soliciting money
can be an NCAA violation jeopardizing Newton's eligibility."

To me, all this means that Cam Newton isn't a slam dunk to be found ineligible at Auburn as some seem to think at this point. It doesn't look good, I'll give you that, but consider the Albert Means case. The former five-star Memphis prospect was being shopped around by his high school coach Lynn Lang. Means committed to Alabama, but ended up playing at Memphis. I suspect the fact that it was his coach and not a family member, that was a mitigating circumstance.

In this case ...  

1) First, it has to be proven that Newton's father was asking for money at Mississippi State. We're not there yet but as mentioned, at least three folks say he did.

2) Second, it has be determined whether Cecil Newton asked anyone at Auburn for money. If he did, whether Cameron knew or not, that pretty much seals the deal.

3) If Cecil Newton didn't ask Auburn, then we're back to Osburn's "generally speaking" response that the eligibility issues would be tied to the student-athlete. In other words, Newton could be ineligible at Auburn but it is not certain.

Here is the NCAA bylaw (10.1 unethical conduct) that seems to govern this situation ...

 
Unethical conduct by a prospective or enrolled student-athlete or a current or former institutional staff member
(e.g., coach, professor, tutor, teaching assistant, student manager, student trainer) may include, but is not limited
to, the following: 
 
(a) Refusal to furnish information relevant to an investigation of a possible violation of an NCAA regulation
when requested to do so by the NCAA or the individual’s institution;
 
(b) Knowing involvement in arranging for fraudulent academic credit or false transcripts for a prospective or an
enrolled student-athlete;
 
(c) Knowing involvement in offering or providing a prospective or an enrolled student-athlete an improper inducement
or extra benefit or improper financial aid; (Revised: 1/9/96)
 
(d) Knowingly furnishing or knowingly influencing others to furnish the NCAA or the individual’s institution false or misleading information ...
 
 
Violations of 10.1 are enforced as follows:
 
10.4 Disciplinary Action
 
Prospective or enrolled student-athletes found in violation of the provisions of this regulation shall be ineligible for further intercollegiate competition, subject to appeal to the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement for restoration of eligibility.

Cam Newton's eligibility has been restored by the NCAA within the rules.  Deal with it.

Show me where "the rules" say he should not be eligible. 
Don't just spout off like you know what you are talking about when you don't. 



Since: Aug 18, 2010
Posted on: December 1, 2010 5:22 pm
 

Cam ruled eligible

geoffsk--That is not what the rule states.  You can put what you want in quotes, but that does not make it so.  I just read the bylaw.  Maybe it is you that should read.  You may also want to work on your comprehension skills. 



Since: Aug 21, 2008
Posted on: December 1, 2010 5:21 pm
 

Cam ruled eligible

I really don't care about this one way or another, but just a few thoughts...

-What kind of crooked %&@ preacher thinks it is okay to basically blackmail a school for money? Apparently not a very good or honest one. He should be ashamed of himself but I highly doubt he is. Another indication that he should change professions

- If an athletes parents solicit money most of the time it means the play being ruled ineligible... Why the change in rule enforcement now? Kind of surprised, especially with how high profile the athlete in question is, along with his conference. The NCAA absolutely crushed USC to send a message to everyone else. Sure Bush actually took a home and probably money, but still... The NCAA followed the rules and then crushed them. If parents solicit money and it leads players to be ruled ineligible, then they should have went this way with Cam. The "Oh I didnt know what my Dad was doing" is bullshit. If his dad went behind Cam's back and intentionally put his football career in jeopardy then Cam should basically hate his greedy POS father right now. Something tells me Cam has no problem with this at all.. Wonder why?

-Don't think for a minute that this thing is over. Someone with inside knowledge isn't going to like how this kid keeps effin up and never has to pay for his actions. There will be more information from somewhere.

- Oregon cannot beat anyone it faces in title game. This includes TCU, Auburn, or Wisconsin.. They already beat Stanford so i have a hard time saying they couldnt do it again, but Stanford playing pretty well.. Just remember, last year's Ohio State team wasnt an awesome team and they made Oregon look silly. Sure its a year later and their new QB seems to be marginally better than their own Special F--k Up QB from last year... but their offense can certainly be stopped by a combination of size and speed... something Auburn and TCU and Wisky have.

-South Carolina CAN beat Auburn.

-Auburn will probably win the title, but how long will it stay in the record books?



Since: Nov 9, 2010
Posted on: December 1, 2010 5:20 pm
 

Cam ruled eligible

geoffsk:
READ...he's eligible.  Cry if you must.




Since: Oct 1, 2006
Posted on: December 1, 2010 5:19 pm
 

Cam ruled eligible

Back in 2008, he was already been caught being a thief, and he and his father together are the one's that got it reduced to some b.s.(a prosecutor wrote Newton’s lawyer to remind him that his client had already been given “many concessions,” including the dropping of a felony burglary charge and the government’s agreement to allow Newton into a pre-trial intervention program.) Again go to google about the computer and you will see that the cops heard Cam admit that he took the computer....So now you can take the halo off his head and realize they are cheaters.....Go to among others for sources.....Now this isn't about the money accusation, but shows you how he and his father are close, and how he was trying to get away with being a thief......



Since: Nov 9, 2010
Posted on: December 1, 2010 5:19 pm
 

Cam ruled eligible

This may come as a shock to some people...the NCAA knew before the media did about all this.  This hasn't all just taken place in the last 3 weeks.  Just b/c you didn't know doesn't mean the world came to a halt.

If Rich Rod was found innocent of the charges, there should be a public acknowledgement professing his and the program's innocense.  One more thing.  Auburn declared Cam ineligible after getting wind of the NCAA's leanings as they should have, and petitioned for his reinstatement, as they should have, and he was reinstated.  I love how 4 hours ago, that Auburn was getting the death penalty and the laundry list of NCAA probations the SEC has chalked up, but NOW we hear how the NCAA has been bought out by the SEC, doesn't care about rules, etc.  Laughable is all I can say to that. 


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