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Breaking down Weis to UF

Posted on: December 31, 2010 10:47 pm
 
KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- If Charlie Weis is about to leave the Chiefs to become Will Muschamp's offensive coordinator, he is taking a demotion.

Not because of Muschamp or Florida. It's simple football job math: Being an offensive coordinator in the NFL is a much better job than being an offensive coordinator in college -- even at a top 10 program like Florida.

In the NFL you don't have to recruit which means you have more time to do your job. No matter what they tell you, most coaches consider recruiting a nuisance. They know it has to be done, but no one grows up dreaming of recruiting. They grow up dreaming of calling ball plays.

That's what Weis does best. He showed that this season with Matt Cassel and the Kansas City offense. Cassel has become a borderline All-Pro. The running game is the best in the NFL. The offense trusts Weis and Weis trusts his players. If this move happes, though, is suggests some underlying friction between Weis and head coach Todd Haley.

It's no secret that Haley has a combustive temper. The same goes for Weis. This could be a clash of two football minds that can't be rectified. But the fact that Haley brought in Weis suggests the head coach subjugated his ego a bit. Haley employed two former head coaches as his coordinators (Romeo Crennel is the D coordinator).

That's why it becomes more than curious if Weis returns to college coaching. The man is not exactly the picture of health. He has a knee is so bothersome that it might require a replacement at the end of the season. In the middle of all that, he is supposed to recruit for a new boss trying to get Florida back to the top? It's not going to be easy.

That's why there would have to be something significant driving Weis away from Kansas City.  
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Since: Sep 12, 2008
Posted on: January 3, 2011 8:15 pm
 

Breaking down Weis to UF

CHARLIE comes to the rescue of a five loss team.



Since: Dec 27, 2008
Posted on: January 2, 2011 5:12 pm
 

Breaking down Weis to UF

You are giving the NFL way to much credit for being the 'job to have'. Only a handful of NFL faithful are satisfied and contented to remain co-ordinators. Many factors depending on the personality, but the drive for any coach in the NFL is to be a head coach. Along with it is the power to determine who is on the roster (even if being a general manager and head coach is only one paying job). THis is an aspect that College head coaches have full power over.
Now we all know the other aspect is the salary that an NFL head coach can command, a salary only a few college elite can match. We also know that job stability is not a strong poing for coaching in the NFL. Don't get me wrong, head coaching at a big university doesn't have automatic tenure but the chances are you will finish your contract period.
Now lets look at what is driving Charlie Weis. He's a good coach, a proud coach, and a man that has been almost everywhere.
There are two things that seperate Charlie from pursuing the college route or staying in the pros.
Winning in KC will increase his value but not presumptive assertion to head coach if Haley wins. He stays at KC only for the purpose of moving on. He is eyeing up a head coaching position to fullfill the two things he hasn't done. WIN BIG as a head coach in College, and WIN BIG as a head coach in the NFL. Charlie is too proud to have his time at Notre Dame be his legacy to college football, he wants a big program and wants to win with it. He got a lot of hype at NE, but he still wan't the head coach. ND was the perfect decision for him at the time. He wins at ND and has the choice to stay or get an NFL head coaching job. Unfortunately as we all know- he didn't win and losers at ND don't have long resume's afterwards. He doesn't want to be another Gerry Faust.
If Haley stays at KC (which isn't a big payoff job but nice place to coach)- Weis has to leave. If he loses, Weis may get the job but see the previous sentance. Not to mention that Weis' success will be attatched to the KC record- catch 22.
If Weis goes to Florida, he continues to do what he does well, has a little leeway with how Florida does, but gets instantaneous recognition if they succeed. Since Muschamp would be retained, Charlie becomes the most sought after 'next head coach in the country'
Charlie is calculating this move like it was a game winning play at the 40 yard line with 2 seconds on the clock.
Stop looking at this a a ONE move idea, this is a TWO move play. And for as much as a pain it is to recruit, it is the power it instills in running your own program.
This is one reason why sports writers only think like writers and not like head coaches. THere are 40 million arm chair quarterbacks that can tell you what he SHOULD HAVE DONE, but Charlie is going to make the call to WIN something, don't look at anything but the final outcome.



Since: Aug 21, 2008
Posted on: January 1, 2011 10:09 pm
 

Breaking down Weis to UF

Stupid article! They also recruit in the NFL. It's not like players are knocking there way to play for them. Football players are recruited to play for college and pro teams. The only difference is that you can actually talk to a potential recruit in the NFL and actually mean it whereas in college you publicly say that you have not talked to a recruit but are seriously pressuring/brainwashing him to join the college.


Yes, but usually the General Manager and head coach go after people in free agency and through trades in the NFL. Im sure in some places the coordinators have some input but ultimately their opinion doesnt mean much if the GM and HC want a certain guy. And the list for NFL brass to "recruit" from is much shorter than the one in college. So the article isn't as stupid as you are making it out to be.



Since: Aug 21, 2008
Posted on: January 1, 2011 10:03 pm
 

Breaking down Weis to UF

It'd be a disservice to Florida if the offensive coord did not go out and recruit. A lot of recruits ( and their parents) would like to hear just how they are going to be used in the offense.. And they don't want to hear it from a 3rd party. They would like to hear it straight from the horses mouth.  If he is in the college ranks... He has to recruit. Bar none.



Since: Jan 13, 2007
Posted on: January 1, 2011 6:02 pm
 

Breaking down Weis to UF

When Kansas City first hired Weis, I thought it would be a bust. But Weis has been a terrific offensive coordinator at Kansas City. Personally, I'll be devestated if Weis takes this job. He seems much better suited for the NFL than college football, and his chances of becoming an NFL head coach diminish if he goes to Florida.



Since: Dec 27, 2006
Posted on: January 1, 2011 11:02 am
 

Breaking down Weis to UF

Some have suggested that Weis would leave for the chance to coach with his son, who is entering college and looking to be a student assistant wherever he goes to school (possibly Florida).



Since: Dec 27, 2006
Posted on: January 1, 2011 11:00 am
 

Breaking down Weis to UF

Not all college coaches recruit. In fact, I think that only 7 on the staff are allowed to recruit. So Weis wouldn't have to recruit if he didn't want to. With Muschamp being a great recruiter, along with the probable hirings of great recruiters like Aubrey Hill and Stan Drayton on offense it might not matter that Weis didn't recruit.



Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: January 1, 2011 5:34 am
 

Breaking down Weis to UF

Stupid article! They also recruit in the NFL. It's not like players are knocking there way to play for them. Football players are recruited to play for college and pro teams. The only difference is that you can actually talk to a potential recruit in the NFL and actually mean it whereas in college you publicly say that you have not talked to a recruit but are seriously pressuring/brainwashing him to join the college.



Since: Mar 14, 2007
Posted on: January 1, 2011 3:15 am
 

Breaking down Weis to UF

I was thinking the same thing. As for Weis, GM Pioli was the one who brought him in not Haley. Why in the world would a control freak like Haley want to give up playcalling? Pioli has done a great job in KC but he needs a more effective head coach who isn't going to alienate everyone around him.



Since: May 30, 2007
Posted on: January 1, 2011 1:21 am
 

Breaking down Weis to UF

nice grammar, Dodd...gawd


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