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TCU's legacy both BCS and non-BCS

Posted on: January 2, 2011 6:46 pm

On the same day TCU received its first Rose Bowl bid, its stadium was demolished.

The two occurrences on Dec. 5 are actually related. In a strange way, the Frogs were in Saturday's Rose Bowl because Amon G. Carter Stadium was being demolished. The win over Wisconsin was a culmination of events that might have elevated TCU to being the best non-automatic qualifier in existence.

Part of the stadium was torn down as part of a $100 million facilities upgrade. Call it an overall upgrade, the biggest in school history. With the Rose Bowl win and a 13-0 season, TCU is on the edge of breaking into college football's elite. It certainly has passed Utah and Boise as the best non-BCS programs of the BCS era (since 1998). World's tallest midget status is a bit meaningless now, though, with TCU joining the Big East in 2012.

It will leave behind quite a legacy before starting a new one as one of the game's haves. Gary Patterson is a defensive savant but his teams have been tremendously balanced. Departing senior Jeremy Kerley was a dual threat as a receiver and returner. Quarterback Andy Dalton leaves as the winningest active quarterback in the game. His placement will be either Casey Pachall, a redshirt freshman, or Matt Brown, an Allen, Texas star who changed his commitment from Arizona in February.

Only 10 starters return with the loss of 26 seniors in 2011. But Patterson has been good at replenishing and rebuilding. Most of the 2010 recruiting class redshirted. Only three true freshmen played any significant time. This season marked the program's fifth in the last six with at least 11 wins. The residual gift from those victories will benefit both the Mountain West and Big East. BCS executive director Bill Hancock confirmed Saturday night that the leagues will each get credit for TCU's records in 2010 and 2011.

A four-year evaluation period for automatic BCS conference qualification has been adjusted to match up with TV contracts. That's why TCU will most likely help the Big East keep its BCS status and aid the Mountain West in getting its shot. If the MWC meets a series  of benchmarks it will get temporary automatic qualifying status in 2012 and 2013. That would help sustain the league despite the losses of Utah and BYU next season and TCU in 2012. Boise State joins the MWC in 2011. Nevada, Fresno State and Hawaii (football only) will arrive in 2012.

As TCU AD Chris Del Conte said, that wasn't the MWC that TCU had joined or wanted to be part of in the future.

Some dope tweeted Sunday about TCU's weak schedule. While the MWC has been damaged by defections, it is on the brink of BCS automatic qualification because of the accomplishments of TCU, BYU and Utah. The Frogs have actively sought a tougher schedule in the Big East. Meanwhile, in the non-con Boise State comes to Fort Worth in 2011. Oklahoma and Virginia follow in 2012. There's a home and home with LSU in 2013 and 2014.

Let's see Ohio State (Marshall, Ohio and Eastern Michigan this season in the non-con) match that.


Since: Nov 1, 2007
Posted on: January 4, 2011 1:31 am

TCU's legacy both BCS and non-BCS

First of all, Wisky's coach was an idiot with his game plan.  He should have ran the ball between the tackles the entire game and TCU would have wilted, but Wisky had to get fancy and throw the ball.  Wisky deserved to lose the game because their game plan sucked.

Secondly TCU is bolting for the Big East because it is in the Big East that the Horned Frogs have the best shot at getting to the National Title.  They wouldn't be able to get there in the SEC, Pac 10, Big 10, ACC or the Big 12.  I think TCU will find the competition in the Big East better than they expect and it won't be an automatic thing to get to the Title Game.

Since: Jun 6, 2010
Posted on: January 3, 2011 11:39 pm

TCU's legacy both BCS and non-BCS

Wow another puff piece to protect the BcS system and the big least.  Utah as a non-AQ destroyed Pitt in the Fiesta Bowl and took down Alabama when they claimed they should be in the NC game.  Boise State also won its two BcS game by beating Oklahoma and TCU.  TCU is 1-1 in BCS games.  Dod you should feel shame for writting this article. Get some integrity and write it properly.

Since: May 20, 2010
Posted on: January 3, 2011 11:34 pm

TCU's legacy both BCS and non-BCS

Sigh. Bashing OSU for the non-con? C'mon,'s not OSU's fault the U sucks, especially since the sked was thought up years ago. OSU faced USC home and home in their prime years prior. I really don't think OSU is the whipping boy you want to bring up in this article to prove your point.

Since: Apr 27, 2008
Posted on: January 3, 2011 8:19 pm

TCU's legacy both BCS and non-BCS

Well to be fair J.D., both Boise St. and TCU returned a large amount of starters from last years teams. I don't remember the exact number but I think Boise returned 20 and TCU returned about 17. So it's not completely off base to say that Boise is still the better team, but their isn't really a way of proving one is better than the other, besides the fact that TCU beat the best team they played and Boise did not. But whether or not that is enough proof by itself is also debatable. 

Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: January 3, 2011 7:26 pm

TCU's legacy both BCS and non-BCS

 I would take Boise State not only over TCU in a rematch but over Oregon in the national title game.

Would that make Nevada the National Champion then?

Since: Sep 12, 2008
Posted on: January 3, 2011 7:22 pm

TCU's legacy both BCS and non-BCS

Why does not update the college football standings like ? 
You can hire me to get the job done.

Since: Oct 1, 2006
Posted on: January 3, 2011 5:36 pm

TCU's legacy both BCS and non-BCS

Have to agree with Packerfan9,  Boise State is the best non AQ football school.  In BCS bowl games Boise State is undefeated, while TCU is just 1-1.  When it comes to the biggest wins for a non AQ school Utah beat Alabama and Boise State beat Oklahoma.  The two football powerhouses that were defeated have a combined 17 national championships and Utah crushed Bama in SEC country down at the Sugar Bowl.  It's unfortunate the MWC couldn't maintain Utah and TCU while adding powerhouse Boise State.  I would take Boise State not only over TCU in a rematch but over Oregon in the national title game.  I wouldn't bad mouth the Big Ten in all of their bowl games they have been underdogs with the exception of Tuesday night's Ohio State/Arkansas game and the Big Ten despite being the underdog in 7 games is 2-5. 

Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: January 3, 2011 4:59 pm

TCU's legacy both BCS and non-BCS

Since basically the same TCU team this year lost to bascially the same Boise state team in last years bowl game I still say BSU is best non Aq in the last decade. BSU started that by beating Oklahoma years ago. TCU is not first non AQ to win big game against big BCS power. In fact Oklahoma is a bigger football power then Wisc ever is or was.

First, they're not "basically the same teams" as last year. Boise State would not have beaten TCU this year.

Second, Oklahoma has had a history of choking in major bowls since the start of the BCS, while Wisconsin had won their last 4 appearances in the Rose Bowl.

Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: January 3, 2011 4:51 pm

TCU's legacy both BCS and non-BCS

The Big 10 has won one out of their last six Rose Bowl appearances. 

What's your point? The Big Ten won 7 out of 8 Rose Bowls from 93' to 2000. These things go in cycles.

Since: Oct 8, 2009
Posted on: January 3, 2011 2:19 pm

TCU's legacy both BCS and non-BCS

I'm all for the MWC getting AQ status if they meet those "benchmarks." I think that will be good for the sport.

Counting Virginia as a football power is laughable. And skewing tOSU's non-conference sched by leaving off the Hurricanes is just misleading. Yeah their prez said some stuff he shouldn't have, but they at least try to schedule someone relevent in their OOC every season. Real reporters report the facts and don't skew the truth, Dodd.

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