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TCU's legacy both BCS and non-BCS

Posted on: January 2, 2011 6:46 pm

On the same day TCU received its first Rose Bowl bid, its stadium was demolished.

The two occurrences on Dec. 5 are actually related. In a strange way, the Frogs were in Saturday's Rose Bowl because Amon G. Carter Stadium was being demolished. The win over Wisconsin was a culmination of events that might have elevated TCU to being the best non-automatic qualifier in existence.

Part of the stadium was torn down as part of a $100 million facilities upgrade. Call it an overall upgrade, the biggest in school history. With the Rose Bowl win and a 13-0 season, TCU is on the edge of breaking into college football's elite. It certainly has passed Utah and Boise as the best non-BCS programs of the BCS era (since 1998). World's tallest midget status is a bit meaningless now, though, with TCU joining the Big East in 2012.

It will leave behind quite a legacy before starting a new one as one of the game's haves. Gary Patterson is a defensive savant but his teams have been tremendously balanced. Departing senior Jeremy Kerley was a dual threat as a receiver and returner. Quarterback Andy Dalton leaves as the winningest active quarterback in the game. His placement will be either Casey Pachall, a redshirt freshman, or Matt Brown, an Allen, Texas star who changed his commitment from Arizona in February.

Only 10 starters return with the loss of 26 seniors in 2011. But Patterson has been good at replenishing and rebuilding. Most of the 2010 recruiting class redshirted. Only three true freshmen played any significant time. This season marked the program's fifth in the last six with at least 11 wins. The residual gift from those victories will benefit both the Mountain West and Big East. BCS executive director Bill Hancock confirmed Saturday night that the leagues will each get credit for TCU's records in 2010 and 2011.

A four-year evaluation period for automatic BCS conference qualification has been adjusted to match up with TV contracts. That's why TCU will most likely help the Big East keep its BCS status and aid the Mountain West in getting its shot. If the MWC meets a series  of benchmarks it will get temporary automatic qualifying status in 2012 and 2013. That would help sustain the league despite the losses of Utah and BYU next season and TCU in 2012. Boise State joins the MWC in 2011. Nevada, Fresno State and Hawaii (football only) will arrive in 2012.

As TCU AD Chris Del Conte said, that wasn't the MWC that TCU had joined or wanted to be part of in the future.

Some dope tweeted Sunday about TCU's weak schedule. While the MWC has been damaged by defections, it is on the brink of BCS automatic qualification because of the accomplishments of TCU, BYU and Utah. The Frogs have actively sought a tougher schedule in the Big East. Meanwhile, in the non-con Boise State comes to Fort Worth in 2011. Oklahoma and Virginia follow in 2012. There's a home and home with LSU in 2013 and 2014.

Let's see Ohio State (Marshall, Ohio and Eastern Michigan this season in the non-con) match that.


Since: Aug 18, 2010
Posted on: January 3, 2011 1:15 pm

TCU's legacy both BCS and non-BCS

First off, there is no such thing as basically the same team as last year when you are talking about college football players.  They all mature at different rates and things change every year.  As far as Utah beating Bama, good for them, but that was a Bama team that did not want to be there as they were still suffering from the loss to UF.  They also lost their best player that year, the OT Smith, to the agent talk.  Utah deserves credit for an excellent win, but TCU and UW were both focused on the Rose Bowl and the team that played better won.  TCU deserves much credit for their performance.  Not taking anything away from Utah or Boise in their BCS wins, but this was the most impressive nonAQ win I have seen in a BCS bowl game.

Since: Nov 16, 2010
Posted on: January 3, 2011 10:26 am

TCU's legacy both BCS and non-BCS

I know we won't ever get BCS to do a playoff since the mean sharing money with NCAA they don't share with BCS bowls. It's all theirs. If a playoff then NCAA get share of money made. Yet I like to see BCS make 1 change to avoid low or unranked teams earning big payday vs more deserving non AQ teams.

If a bcs conference champ has over 3 losses or is not ranked in top 10 they lose the BCS automatic in. That would have meant Conn. would not have been in BCS bowl this year. They where not ranked and had 4 losses. They need to change this so that never happens again. No bad team that wins a really bad conference should get a bid. If not good enough to be in top 10 they don't rate BCS level bowl. At least that way you have to be a good team to get a bid and not just win a BCS conference.

Since: Nov 16, 2010
Posted on: January 3, 2011 10:19 am

TCU's legacy both BCS and non-BCS

I agree UTAH did not just win over Bama they dominated that game. That unbeaten UTAH team based on that game and being unbeaten should have played Florida for title and not had one loss Oklahoma in the game. The way they beat Bama would have been great game with Florida that year. That IMO is the best non Aq team the last 10 tears. Boise last year number 2 since they beat basically the same TCU team in the Fiesta bowl last yer. All these teams BSU, TCU and UTAH all played great defense when winning bowl games. It showed against a great Wisc offense TCU d stats all year where for real. They where a great defense to shut them down. Same as UTAH shut down Bama.

Since: Nov 16, 2010
Posted on: January 3, 2011 10:14 am

TCU's legacy both BCS and non-BCS

Since basically the same TCU team this year lost to bascially the same Boise state team in last years bowl game I still say BSU is best non Aq in the last decade. BSU started that by beating Oklahoma years ago. TCU is not first non AQ to win big game against big BCS power. In fact Oklahoma is a bigger football power then Wisc ever is or was. Yet as Boise and TCU both have now shown they are as good as the big boys. They just keep winning when given the chance. TCU from now on in big east won't have to beg pools anymore to get into BCS. Win big east your in the BCS game. Boise will still have to go unbeaten and hope. One thing few talk about this year is how good Nevada is. They can beat anyone. That Cal team that Oregon beat 15 to 13. Nevada put up 50 on them. If the big ten again as multiple teasm ranked high to start next year polls ignore the facts. Big ten now since many years ago when Ohio State upset Miami for title stinks. The conference gets high rankings every year. Then in bowls they get killed. The Sec once again showed how far above all others this conference is. Why not they have warm weather to play in. Why play in the winter in big ten if you can play in Sec instead. Pac 10 is good but just the few teams at the top. Same with big 12. Acc and Big east heck they where not better then Wac this year or MW.

Since: Nov 19, 2006
Posted on: January 3, 2011 9:48 am

TCU's legacy both BCS and non-BCS

TCU defeated a Big 10 team in the Rose Bowl.  What is so new and exciting about that?  The Big 10 has won one out of their last six Rose Bowl appearances.  The Big 10 set a record on January 1st, buy playing in, and losing 5 Bowl Games in the same day.  TCU goes to the Big East in 2012, which is the weakest of the AQ Conferences.  Let's see how they do there. 

Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: January 3, 2011 8:20 am

TCU's legacy both BCS and non-BCS

Utah's win over Alabama in the 2009 Sugar Bowl was a more impressive victory than TCU's win in the Rose Bowl this week. 

I guess that depends who you ask. I think this years TCU would beat 2009 Utah convincingly on a neutral field.

Since: Sep 1, 2009
Posted on: January 3, 2011 8:12 am

TCU's legacy both BCS and non-BCS

The winner of the Auburn/Oregon game will be to decide the BCS championship. TCU ARE THE NATIONAL CHAMPS! How's that?

Since: Oct 15, 2007
Posted on: January 3, 2011 5:06 am

TCU's legacy both BCS and non-BCS

I would not be too quick to say that TCU has easily passed Utah and Boise State as the historically best non BCS team.  Utah's win over Alabama in the 2009 Sugar Bowl was a more impressive victory than TCU's win in the Rose Bowl this week.  TCU will end this season undefeated and ranked #2 in the country this year, just as Utah did in the 2008 season.  It's just plain wrong that neither of these teams were given the opportunity to prove they were the best team in the country, and in both cases, they may have been the best.

The Mountain West Conference has earned automatic BCS qualifying status.  League members have proven over and over again that they are not only competitive with the BCS schools when given the opportunity, but much more often then not, have won the big game matchups.  The MWC Conference has the best bowl record again this year, had more then half their members ranked in the Top 25 during the 2010 season and plays some of the most exciting football in the country.  It would certainly be justifiable for the MWC to replace the Big East as a BCS member, based on the quality of play in the past several years, but it would be every bit as unfair to Big East players, schools, and fans if that were to happen as it is to MWC and WAC teams right now.  It's time to open the BCS to all quality leagues or to get rid of it completely.

Since: Dec 6, 2007
Posted on: January 3, 2011 3:51 am

TCU's legacy both BCS and non-BCS

Yeh right, TCU bolted for the Big East just when a rivalry with Boise State would've added much hype and relevance to the conference.  Or were they not wanting to go the Boise route????  Big East....get real.  Uconn in the Fiesta Bowl against OU was a joke, and the Sooners let the Huskies back into the game.....hell even Missouri beat OU this year!!!  TCU or Boise either one would have made Stoops hang his
head with yet another another BCS bust!!

Since: Jan 30, 2010
Posted on: January 3, 2011 12:18 am

TCU's legacy both BCS and non-BCS

Marhsall Thundering Herd, Ohio Bobcats, Eastern Michigan Eagles (formerly Hurons), UTEP Miners. I THINK Louisiana-Monroe was Indians, not sure what they changed it to. No clue on Tennesee Tech.

Riff, Ram, Bah, Zoo
Give 'em hell, TCU!

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